Aspies aspies aspies , ! What's the deal here ?
anagram wrote:
somanyspoons wrote:
Assuming that this is at least a little bit due to a language problem, here's a few suggestions for "father"
- go to your profile account page and click "edit signature." Then add a note about your original language. This will help readers give you a break when you use awkward language.
- stop responding to this thread and instead, start a new thread using the phrase "Would you please..." then list your request. Never use "you should...." This phrase is not appropriate to use towards strangers in English. It's disrespectful to do so.
- go to your profile account page and click "edit signature." Then add a note about your original language. This will help readers give you a break when you use awkward language.
- stop responding to this thread and instead, start a new thread using the phrase "Would you please..." then list your request. Never use "you should...." This phrase is not appropriate to use towards strangers in English. It's disrespectful to do so.
and stop using this smiley:

Yes. Never use that. Unless you really get group dynamics - just don't.
I had to follow it to the end just to see if it started to make sense at any point. Like a puzzle that I cant put down until I have solved it.
If someone does work out what we're 'supposed' to be discussing, please enlighten me. The only part that I understood (I think) was that we talk about being aspie too much. Although that's about as useful as going to any forum and complaining that one particularly well represented sub-group talks too much.
Puzzling.
father wrote:
This is what I initially wrote ....
So, here's the thing: you know what you meant and what you hope to accomplish by saying it, but to others, your intention is unclear. Saying it again without significant clarifying detail is not going to change that.
father wrote:
2-first sentence I meant; more space should be given to discuss various challenges .
"Various challenges" are regularly discussed here. If you want to talk about some specific thing that isn't being discussed, then you should specify what it is.
father wrote:
if AS is within the spectrum , then why don't we discuss the spectrum as such .
I think the spectrum doesn't mean what you think it means and this is a partial source of your frustration.
An analogy might be that you go to a forum for car enthusiasts and find that much of the talk is about Bugattis, Koenigseggs and Lamborghinis, so you complain, "can't we just talk about automobiles as such?" It's totally unclear what you mean.
father wrote:
I wanted to know if their is a difference between AS and other spectrum....
That's where the criteria come in. Yes, there is a difference and it was described by the diagnostic criteria. Looking carefully at the difference, it came down to language delay. In other respects, AS was indistinguishable from other forms of autism. A common expression of this was that AS was essentially high functioning (used technically to mean IQ average or above) autism with no language delay.
A number of diagnosticians have told me that they perceived a hard to define cluster of attributes that they thought made AS a unique category... but it was poorly defined and prone to exceptions.
father wrote:
...a difference that would help me see more sides of the challenges to my daughter,thus trying to acknowledge and benefit from them , in her intervention.
Without knowing your daughter or the challenges she faces, how could people possibly selectively post only those things that differentiate their kind of autism from hers? Without knowing you, how could people know what would help you to see or understand anything?
It's like being asked, "Say something that will give me a new perspective on a thing that I have been thinking about?"
Some kind of telepathy would be required to find an answer.
Your use of the phrase
father wrote:
...the challenges as a whole...
suggests to me that you don't understand autism and have tried to force it into an analytical framework unsuited to the subject. The many variations of the often repeated phrase "when you have met one person with autism, you have met one person with autism" is meant convey the idea that you can't generalize about autism except in the most general way. There are certain very general qualities that define autism, but ,again, these are the behaviors and qualities described by the diagnostic criteria. To talk about challenges that people face requires getting specific.
father wrote:
I stressed that using the experience of the adults in the spectrum (not particularly personal-as I know that human experiences are of course diversified ), but in an educational manner to help parents,will undoubtedly be of immense benefit.
I don't know what impersonal experience is, so I can't help you there.
As I understand these terms, soliciting discussion of experience but requiring that it be impersonal suggests a category error underlying your thinking and question.
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Last edited by Adamantium on 28 Aug 2016, 9:06 am, edited 1 time in total.: fixing typos and dropped words
lordfakename wrote:
And we're the ones who are supposed to have communication problems...
Autistic children tend to have autistic parents. But 20-40 years ago, it was much more likely that one would remain undiagnosed. Many people are surprised at how many parents of autistic kids discover they are also autistic.
However, its never too late to learn how to not walk in a room and start ranting to strangers about how people haven't answered your question yet.
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