21 Sep 2016, 6:56 am
OdysseusNemo wrote:
Pieplup wrote:
It sounds like your a psycho/sociopath who thinks/acts like they are autistic. That's what what you're describing. You sound like someone who is faking it. 
You fit more sociopathic traits then Aspie traits. For me, My alexithymia is kinda like a slot machine (Not a rigged one) You never know if you getting the right one. There is a certain point where if I feel too much I realize what it is. I can tell there is something there though so it isn't alexithymia. There is always emotion you just can't recognize it. a Psychopath is the polar opposite of Autism, at least the Empathy part. Therefore it is impossible to be both. So We roll out autism. So you're not Autistic. You're just a psychopath/sociopath who says they are.
You fit more sociopathic traits then Aspie traits. For me, My alexithymia is kinda like a slot machine (Not a rigged one) You never know if you getting the right one. There is a certain point where if I feel too much I realize what it is. I can tell there is something there though so it isn't alexithymia. There is always emotion you just can't recognize it. a Psychopath is the polar opposite of Autism, at least the Empathy part. Therefore it is impossible to be both. So We roll out autism. So you're not Autistic. You're just a psychopath/sociopath who says they are.Hey Pieplup. Sorry we've miscommunicated. Plz read through this thread and especially my intro post I'm being very up front and honest that I think I'm both a sociopath and an aspie. I'm here just tryign to figure myself out to confirm both as close to 100% as possible. And yeah I am pretty sure it's possible to be both the two conditions are orthogonal but it's a 1 in 10000 unlikely and kinda weird combination
I doubt that. You might have sensory issues, but I doubt you're aspie. I can't imagine why it would be possible.
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21 Sep 2016, 11:26 am
Jute wrote:
Appearances can obviously be deceptive because you are entirely wrong. I think I'm a better judge of myself than someone who I've never met and with whom I've exchanged only a few paragraphs of text online.
Well then of course I'm so sorry!! Sorry it was just that something really wasnt adding up after that gesture that looked so much like an impassioned moral disgust response and then you go on about not being affectively emotional. That just didnt look right to me! But I guess appearances can be deceptive sometimes -- you know?
Jute wrote:
At nineteen I was drinking excessively, taking lots of hallucinogens and other illegal drugs. I was also having lots of sex, stealing, riding motorbikes with no insurance and pretty much being bad to the bone. I now do none of those things. People change, even autistics.
Like for instance I found this quote from you on another thread and I was like wow we kinda do have so much in common!
I mean I've known dozens of aspies personally and read hundreds writing online and you are the single case closest to me Ive ever encountered in so many ways
21 Sep 2016, 12:09 pm
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21 Sep 2016, 1:02 pm
OdysseusNemo wrote:
Pieplup wrote:
It sounds like your a psycho/sociopath who thinks/acts like they are autistic. That's what what you're describing. You sound like someone who is faking it. You fit more sociopathic traits then Aspie traits. For me, My alexithymia is kinda like a slot machine (Not a rigged one) You never know if you getting the right one. There is a certain point where if I feel too much I realize what it is. I can tell there is something there though so it isn't alexithymia. There is always emotion you just can't recognize it. a Psychopath is the polar opposite of Autism, at least the Empathy part. Therefore it is impossible to be both. So We roll out autism. So you're not Autistic. You're just a psychopath/sociopath who says they are.
You fit more sociopathic traits then Aspie traits. For me, My alexithymia is kinda like a slot machine (Not a rigged one) You never know if you getting the right one. There is a certain point where if I feel too much I realize what it is. I can tell there is something there though so it isn't alexithymia. There is always emotion you just can't recognize it. a Psychopath is the polar opposite of Autism, at least the Empathy part. Therefore it is impossible to be both. So We roll out autism. So you're not Autistic. You're just a psychopath/sociopath who says they are.Hey Pieplup. Sorry we've miscommunicated. Plz read through this thread and especially my intro post I'm being very up front and honest that I think I'm both a sociopath and an aspie. I'm here just tryign to figure myself out to confirm both as close to 100% as possible. And yeah I am pretty sure it's possible to be both the two conditions are orthogonal but it's a 1 in 10000 unlikely and kinda weird combination
After re-reading, I still don't understand how I could take that as anything but a insult. One can not be a Psychopath and a Aspie. It just doesn't work like that. You saying that, Makes me insulted, fore your saying I'm a psychopath by relating me and you into the same category.
21 Sep 2016, 1:05 pm
21 Sep 2016, 1:11 pm
Pieplup wrote:
OdysseusNemo wrote:
Pieplup wrote:
It sounds like your a psycho/sociopath who thinks/acts like they are autistic. That's what what you're describing. You sound like someone who is faking it. You fit more sociopathic traits then Aspie traits. For me, My alexithymia is kinda like a slot machine (Not a rigged one) You never know if you getting the right one. There is a certain point where if I feel too much I realize what it is. I can tell there is something there though so it isn't alexithymia. There is always emotion you just can't recognize it. a Psychopath is the polar opposite of Autism, at least the Empathy part. Therefore it is impossible to be both. So We roll out autism. So you're not Autistic. You're just a psychopath/sociopath who says they are.
You fit more sociopathic traits then Aspie traits. For me, My alexithymia is kinda like a slot machine (Not a rigged one) You never know if you getting the right one. There is a certain point where if I feel too much I realize what it is. I can tell there is something there though so it isn't alexithymia. There is always emotion you just can't recognize it. a Psychopath is the polar opposite of Autism, at least the Empathy part. Therefore it is impossible to be both. So We roll out autism. So you're not Autistic. You're just a psychopath/sociopath who says they are.Hey Pieplup. Sorry we've miscommunicated. Plz read through this thread and especially my intro post I'm being very up front and honest that I think I'm both a sociopath and an aspie. I'm here just tryign to figure myself out to confirm both as close to 100% as possible. And yeah I am pretty sure it's possible to be both the two conditions are orthogonal but it's a 1 in 10000 unlikely and kinda weird combination
After re-reading, I still don't understand how I could take that as anything but a insult. One can not be a Psychopath and a Aspie. It just doesn't work like that. You saying that, Makes me insulted, fore your saying I'm a psychopath by relating me and you into the same category.
Can you be both Healthy and Diseased at the same time no. I have personal experience with Psycho/Sociopaths. My mom was a sociopath. I'm the most qualified WP member that I know of so that is probably the best answer your going to get. Thinking back to it. Yeah she is a Sociopath she fits the signs. Her Parents weren't there when she was younger. There is your answer, chances are you might have some comorbids that asd often brings up. You can't be a Aspie it isn't possible.
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21 Sep 2016, 1:59 pm
SaveFerris wrote:
I was one of those posters and apart from motorcycles Jutes description was spookily similar ( although the social circle I was in did the same as me albiet I did more LSD ). Was I trying to fit in ? Was it rebellion ? I still have no idea.
Yeah thank you for chiming in I was going to write you.
May I ask what your emotional life is like in terms of feelings of morality and caring towards others? Do you feel guilt/shame? Would say mugging someone feel bad (to me it sounds suicidally stupid but thrilling fun)? I think you mentioned not having a problem with squashing hypothetical humans nibbling on your feet but is that because you don't care about hurting people or people biting your feet cross a self defense line?I can totally relate to the drugs sex stealing and stuff. The difference is I'm well over 19 and still do all that stuff all the time (well except very little stealing now just cause not worth the risk any more at my income) and life without lots of thrills/stimulation sounds dead what's the point boring. Also my social circle isn't particularly lawbreaking theyre actually pretty white picket fence mostly but thats cause I slept my way into a nice house and its f*****g boring here wah. It's not rebellion Im just trying to enjoy myself. I'm very materialistic for the same reason and love buying new things. If it weren't for autism sensory issues Id look into studying law or finance because basically everything I want can be bought with money
Actually srsly do you know what kinda social circles I can hang out in to find people like that? I really would be happier with more sex drugs and motorcycles people in my life.
All I know now is a hippie chick I do drugs with and shes going to be deported. i have a small but functional social life but I feel little to nothign for any of them beyond "useful" and "fun". I seem to want stimulation attention and limited social acceptance from people but I don't have an empathic bond even with people I've known for 10 years.
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21 Sep 2016, 2:16 pm
21 Sep 2016, 2:54 pm
OdysseusNemo wrote:
Pieplup wrote:
After re-reading, I still don't understand how I could take that as anything but a insult. One can not be a Psychopath and a Aspie. It just doesn't work like that. You saying that, Makes me insulted, fore your saying I'm a psychopath by relating me and you into the same category.
Do you have any specific scientific reason to believe it's not possible to be both? If so I would very eagerly like to hear your evidence/reasoning. Here's mine:
https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=328711
Sorry totes honest no insult is intended. I don't think you or any other aspies/auties (except Jute) are psychopathic or sociopathic. I don't think aspies or autistics are more antisocial that the general population I just think they have the same percentage of psychopaths/sociopaths (also narcissists, borderlines, etc...) as everybody else. I think its totally unfair that aspies get mistaken for socios by NTs my current theory about this is there is lots of mistaking alexithymia for psychopathy when theyre totally different things
Aspies can feel emotions, Psychopaths can. I'm disappointed that it wasn't obvious enough. While I might have trouble recognizing or appearing emotional, doesn't mean I have none. Also, by being, Autistic Sociopath's cause has no effect on you. Also the entire disorder conflicts so let's say it was possible it wouldn't be Autism.. You reason that wasn't Scientific Evidence. So by you being a Sociopath, You can't. I have experience with Sociopaths. I'm probably the best person you get. You can either take or leave the answer, But it is it. I'm certain, this is true. Also Opposite attract that is why your here right? You're not a ASPIE you're a SOCIOPATH, Tell yourself that. Your ENFORCING THIS BEHAVIOR. Scientific Evidence your Are Autistic Please.
Are you incapable of understanding that. Is that lie so deeply wedged in your skull you believe it to be reality. Accept it. You're actually admitting your not a Aspie though. No, It's impossible to be a Aspie Psychopath. You might think that but you're wrong. Nice chatting with you though. Also if It was possible I would be a Sociopath, Or at least partially develop into one. I'm scientific proof that this can't happen. My Abusive mom was a Sociopath. She took my siblings away from my dad, for that reason. What you don't understand is if your looking on wrong planet. I'm the best answer you going to get. If you continue to argue I'm not going to because, I both disproved you, and proved myself. Any further discussion about this would be illogical.
