Too many autistics are bieng prescribed too many drugs
You can have my medications when you pry them from my cold, dead hands.....
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I have personally found that prescribed medications and vitamins have improved my processing difficulties somewhat. Whilst I am still a complete screw up, I do believe a combination of drugs and an elimination diet have been quite beneficial to me. When I am unmedicated and eat copious amounts of gluten and sugar I find that my mind is even more cloudy than usual. I am hopeful that the long term benefits from such changes to my lifestyle will help me in my bid to sort my life out. If I continue in my set ways as an unhinged hermit, I risk losing my only friend and potentially any form of accommodation. Unfortunately no one seems to grasp how difficult it is for me to be a productive member of society. They interpret my so-called "problems" as immaturity and laziness.
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This is why I'm anti pharmaceuticals ... Before I was diagnosed with autism, as a kid they thought I had ADD and they were giving me addiral(I don't know if I spelled that correctly) and all that ever did was decrease my appetite. Later on they tried to put me on concerta which made my stomach hurt and then once I spent 4 years of high school on the honor roll after working my way out of special ed then noone could say that I didn't "pay attention" anymore
There also seems to be so much acceptance around this pill culture now. Doctors are just so used to prescribing a pill for everything, in my experience they don't consider how to actually resolve the cause of the problem - simply treat the symptoms. When I was ill the amount of times I heard "management" was maddening. I wanted a cure, not a lifetime regimen of drugs. Pain increased until even I could feel it (am partially insensitive) and their "management" became oxycodone and then morphine. It ended up me who pushed them into the surgery that cured the illness. No management needed.
Also oddly, people are very surprised when you refuse pills. After major abdominal surgery, they had me all hooked up for a morphine drip, but I refused. They called the surgeon in to lecture me, then a medical student in to study me, all because I refused painkillers. As if being in pain after surgery was unnatural, or unacceptable.
As noted above it's not only an issue for autistics - elderly people also seem to be drowned in a truckload of medications, many of which aren't even necessary. I was talking to a relative who is on all these "preventative" medications just because of her age, when she has absolutely no problems with that aspect of her health.
Medications are definitely necessary in some instances. But over-prescribing is real, and the whole culture in the western countries seems to be that you have any problem, you get a pill, and to refuse and ask what else they can do is some kind of taboo.
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I am in this "management" position right now and it is unpleasant. I went to a spinal surgeon about my back and he said he would perform a spinal fusion but could not guarantee any positive results and there was the possibility of making it worse, so I did not have the surgery. But the pain remains I do take gabapentin, which helps.
As for curing mental illness ... that would be awesome, but it hasn't happened yet. So again, I have to manage my metal challenges with constant mindfulness and medication.
Dependence on pharmaceutical medications is a reality for me. I don't choose this and I don't have a weak character. I am mentally ill. It's really not that scary.
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I ended up on the antidepressant train when my GP put me on Prozac back when I worked at the Pentagon. Prozac began to be a problem when I nearly decapitated a full-bird col. because he looked at me the wrong way. But instead of weaning me off Prozac, the twerp I had for a GP (who thought he was God's gift to mankind only because he got his MD from Temple University School of Medicine (and if you think Temple Med School Graduates have big egos, try Hershey Med School at Penn State)) cold Turkey'ed me from Prozac and immediately put me on Effexor XR. I wasn't as angry, but Effexor XR wrecked my voice and I had tinnitus the entire time I was taking that little poison pill. This same twerp (and this GP definitely had an ego) cold turkey'ed me off Effexor XR and put me on amitripthaline(sp). By this time, I was out of the Pentagon, and being accused of abusing drugs by my mom, my brothers, and almost everyone I knew.
After another round on Celexa, BusPar and Viibryd, I managed to get off that merry go round, and stayed off it for 6 years. I've done a lot better on fish oil, niacin, ginkgo biloba, garlic tablets, zinc, vitamin c and chamonile tea, thank you very much. The only meds I'm stuck with are Novolin-R, Levemir, metformin, atenolol, lorsartan, hctz, and astelin spray, which, except for the nasty bittersweet taste of astelin (I gag every time I spray that stuff up my nostrils), I can tolerate.
I don't think so. I am prescribed klonopin and gabapentin and before I got those my life was hell because of AS. Keep in mind, drugs that aren't thoroughly researched are called "research chemicals" and can't be prescribed to people. I know people like to talk about the big pharma boogieman, but almost all commonly prescribed drugs are pretty well researched. I kind of instantly tune out when I am talking to people about prescription drugs and they say "they are using people as lab rats".
As long as you don't abuse your prescriptions, you will be fine.
Be in control of your own mind and not let it control you.
The brain is not hard wired after all.
As for the diabetic argument,again,there is no comparison.
Again with the insults? Sounds like you would rather proselytize than exchange ideas.
Insults?I maybe blunt with facts as i see it,but there are no insults,nor intended either.
As for proselytizing?Sorry if i come across that way,but largely,i've been a lab rat for 48yrs and i'm only offering from experience/s,personally and from my pov.
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Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 159 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 75 of 200
You are very likely neurodiverse (Aspie)
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment." --Ralph Waldo Emerson
Yes, I seek the easy way out, and I haven't stopped beating my wife either.
I've had good luck with gabapentin.
I avoid gluten and lactose.
I'm not sure which "natural alternatives" you are referring to, but I am more confident in the rigorousness of the testing that goes into Big Pharma's drugs (they have more to lose and more incentive to be successful than producers of commercial herbs, etc.)
I have noted that I am very sensitive to the effect of foods. Yogurt, for example, seems to have a really positive effect.
Actually, there was a time that the FDA wanted to regulate vitamins and all supplements because there are some studies that have proven their effectiveness at helping in certain ways and they didn't like not getting a cut of the money. Fish oil,
co-q10, and turmeric are a few examples. Probiotic are another - yogurt, like you mentioned.
It's unfortunate,that profit reigns over what works naturally.
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Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 159 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 75 of 200
You are very likely neurodiverse (Aspie)
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment." --Ralph Waldo Emerson
Yes, I seek the easy way out, and I haven't stopped beating my wife either.
I've had good luck with gabapentin.
I avoid gluten and lactose.
I'm not sure which "natural alternatives" you are referring to, but I am more confident in the rigorousness of the testing that goes into Big Pharma's drugs (they have more to lose and more incentive to be successful than producers of commercial herbs, etc.)
I have noted that I am very sensitive to the effect of foods. Yogurt, for example, seems to have a really positive effect.
A good way to stop beating your wife is to beat your dick instead. Its 100% effective.
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Be in control of your own mind and not let it control you.
The brain is not hard wired after all.
As for the diabetic argument,again,there is no comparison.
Again with the insults? Sounds like you would rather proselytize than exchange ideas.
Insults?I maybe blunt with facts as i see it,but there are no insults,nor intended either.
As for proselytizing?Sorry if i come across that way,but largely,i've been a lab rat for 48yrs and i'm only offering from experience/s,personally and from my pov.
Calling people weak minded is a base attack. Perhaps it appeals to you as it is a slightly amusing short cut to your argument which is that people who use pharmaceuticals are weak.
The people, who you are forced to interact-with, to give you the pills, can never do their job correctly, so far as I can tell.
We're saying this stuff is good and necessary and always safe, but you can't have it, at will. But, you can't live without it.
This is called regulatory capture and circular reasoning.
Who cares. People can do whatever the f**k they want with their own bodies as far as I'm concerned. I don't get why people like telling people what they should and shouldn't do when it comes to drugs. If a person wants to put potentially harmful chemicals in their body, thats their choice. The fact that you can be caged for 10 years for smoking a bit of weed is ludicrous. Who cares if autistics are being prescribed a lot of drugs, you can be prescribed something and not take it. And even still, if you stay at the recommended doses of most prescription drugs you will be fine. All these people who get addicted to opioids and adderall get addicted because they take doses way over the recommended to get high.
Every new year there is a new prescription boogyman. Last year it was xanax, this year it is oxycotton. These are perfectly safe drugs if taken at the recommended dosage. If you start developing a tolerance, tell your doctor and they will either up your dosage or move you to another drug.
I instantly tune out whenever I am talking to somebody and they say "doctors are giving this stuff out like candy". I almost always here this about opioids and benzodiazepines. Both of which are scheduled drugs which are very hard to get now. Good luck trying to get anti anxiety meds nowadays if you need them, because of all of these anti-pharma lunatics, you will have to jump through flaming hoops to get them. Broke your leg? In extreme agony? Well, about 10 years ago you would be able to get painkillers straight from the hospital! Now, not only do you have to go to multiple doctors to find one that is willing to give you painkillers, but once you do, you have to contact your insurance! If they say no, guess what, you are completely out of luck. This happened because painkillers got moved to schedule two controlled substances. That's right. Pills which are nearly harmless if not abused are now considered as dangerous as METHAMPHETAMINE!
Keep in mind, I am not advocating for opiates, they are pretty bad for you, but so is almost everything you consume everyday. I don't understand why people want to regulate what other people do with their body.
The fact that weed is criminalized yet something as terrible and addictive as soda can be bought in bulk by children just shows how f****d our government is. Soda has been proven to be as addictive as heroin, yet all of these anti pharma people without a doubt crack into a soda at least every week.
Sorry for the rant, I just left the gym and am feeling amped.
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http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/psych-meds-l ... shootings/
They're over prescribed, to the point where every human activity can be linked to it.
And, the patient is probably, observably unhappy, before going to such extremes.
But, still...
"...over 90 percent of school shootings are linked to medication intake..."
Do you trust it, unconditionally.
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Mental illness is a product of faulty culture... in fact, if our culture weren't so faulty, autistics might be considered specially gifted rather than "disabled". is what it is... As for medications... I'm done with all that. They tried to make me their corporate lab rat... not for me... Cannabis is all take, today. Today is a good day, excuse me while I enthusiastically "medicate"
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