Can some aspies be physic in a way?
Okay, so maybe my subconscious knew that in about a week, a girl at school would throw her desk over and start yelling, and it knew where the teacher and some of the other kids would be standing...sure...
But where is the logic in believing that I have picked up enough "cues" to forsee, with surprising detail, random events that occurred on the other side of our planet??
I already know what you're going to say, because I'm psychic: my parents told me what was going to happen, and then lied about it, and I got my memories all mixed up
We're not Miss Cleo, we don't have psychic hotline money scams, you watch too much TV.
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I'll brave the storm to come, for it surely looks like rain...
I don't particularly subscribe to psychics/mysticism. However there is an explanation I like for me.
In one research study on epileptic patients (the one popping to mind at the moment) they had intracerebral electrodes fastened to the rhinal cortex (center bottom portion of the brain under and surrounding the hippocampus) and applied electrical current to the region. When they did, it produced a "short circuit" if you will with the brains ability to distinguish between short and long term memory. This in turn created what the individual thought was a previous memory of the current action/event even though they hadn't experienced it before. It also created a physical sensation or "feeling" of having done a movement/task before. It was real to each patient and they were acutely aware of it happening. Again each one thought they had performed the task before or had dreamed it before it happened. Which was the brain's way of compensating for the glitch.
That said, the majority of individuals that experience it (roughly 70%) fall between the ages of 15-25 with the instance of it occurring fading as we age. I believe this is due to the brain still developing and being rather active at that age range with hormones. (Idea not fact.)
Now to me, that is pretty amazing and awe inspiring. However, I also realize that some don't find that as appealing as attributing it to something else, and if that is the case, I just hope that it creates as much as a wonderment (curiosity) for them as the physiological answer does for me. Cause arguing over it is obviously a losing battle for both sides.
That would certainly explain feelings of "deja vu", which I usually don't pay much attention to. Just a quick "woah, I've done this before, or maybe dreamed about it", and then I move on.
Premonitions, I know them right when I have them. I wake up wondering what they mean, and when they will come true.
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I'll brave the storm to come, for it surely looks like rain...
I was actually going to say rainbows and unicorns, but whatever. I also hardly watch any tv at all, and I have no clue who Miss Cleo is.
Let's see, the structure of the classroom, where the teacher can be located, where each student sits in the classroom, which people are normally grouped together, the areas of the classroom that certain people frequent often, the mood of the girl in question, how the girl reacts to stressful situations, all of which can be used to imagine up a possible situation. Along with the hyperactive mind of an aspie, it's in the realm of possibility that all of these obscure facts and cues can be stitched together into a plausible outcome. The fact that it did occur really is just a mere coincidence. So tell me, how many times has this situation occurred where you were able to predict what would happen? How many false predictions are you not willing to share with everyone?
In one research study on epileptic patients (the one popping to mind at the moment) they had intracerebral electrodes fastened to the rhinal cortex (center bottom portion of the brain under and surrounding the hippocampus) and applied electrical current to the region. When they did, it produced a "short circuit" if you will with the brains ability to distinguish between short and long term memory. This in turn created what the individual thought was a previous memory of the current action/event even though they hadn't experienced it before. It also created a physical sensation or "feeling" of having done a movement/task before. It was real to each patient and they were acutely aware of it happening. Again each one thought they had performed the task before or had dreamed it before it happened. Which was the brain's way of compensating for the glitch.
That said, the majority of individuals that experience it (roughly 70%) fall between the ages of 15-25 with the instance of it occurring fading as we age. I believe this is due to the brain still developing and being rather active at that age range with hormones. (Idea not fact.)
Now to me, that is pretty amazing and awe inspiring. However, I also realize that some don't find that as appealing as attributing it to something else, and if that is the case, I just hope that it creates as much as a wonderment (curiosity) for them as the physiological answer does for me. Cause arguing over it is obviously a losing battle for both sides.
Thank you for this. I was starting to get a headache trying to explain the situation through logic alone.
Let's see, the structure of the classroom, where the teacher can be located, where each student sits in the classroom, which people are normally grouped together, the areas of the classroom that certain people frequent often, the mood of the girl in question, how the girl reacts to stressful situations, all of which can be used to imagine up a possible situation. Along with the hyperactive mind of an aspie, it's in the realm of possibility that all of these obscure facts and cues can be stitched together into a plausible outcome. The fact that it did occur really is just a mere coincidence. So tell me, how many times has this situation occurred where you were able to predict what would happen? How many false predictions are you not willing to share with everyone?
Most if not all people forget the false predictions they have made. But since they have forgotten they even made the false predictions in the first place they think all the predictions they have made have turned out to be right.
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I've never made a single prediction, or had any desire to.
Are you familiar with the concepts of eigenstates, or eigenvalues? Or is it realms of probability that I'm thinking of? Or the uncertainty principle? I'm not really up on particle physics.
But there's an idea, that the more you think you know about something, the less you can actually know about it.
There are points at which logic can't come up with a valid answer, and any attempt to rationalize it is just futile.
Why did Picasso paint that one thing that one way that time? Why did Miles put those notes there?
Some things may only be there in order to be appreciated, there may just not be an answer.
Take the time to read kicker's post. If you're still in denial of your situation, then there's no reasoning with you. You're attempting to defend your claims by presenting situations that in no way correlate with your own situation. It's true that there isn't always a reason for why people take certain actions, but it is a completely different story when explaining inconsistencies in someone's memory. That indeed has a reasonable explanation.
This is what it feels like to deal with people that are in denial. Do you seriously believe that after everything that you've been told here that you had memories of something before it happened? Fine. Whatever helps you sleep at night. It just boggles my mind when people choose to remain ignorant and stubborn. But, I know an explanation for such behavior exists out there somewhere.
In one research study on epileptic patients (the one popping to mind at the moment) they had intracerebral electrodes fastened to the rhinal cortex (center bottom portion of the brain under and surrounding the hippocampus) and applied electrical current to the region. When they did, it produced a "short circuit" if you will with the brains ability to distinguish between short and long term memory. This in turn created what the individual thought was a previous memory of the current action/event even though they hadn't experienced it before. It also created a physical sensation or "feeling" of having done a movement/task before. It was real to each patient and they were acutely aware of it happening. Again each one thought they had performed the task before or had dreamed it before it happened. Which was the brain's way of compensating for the glitch.
That said, the majority of individuals that experience it (roughly 70%) fall between the ages of 15-25 with the instance of it occurring fading as we age. I believe this is due to the brain still developing and being rather active at that age range with hormones. (Idea not fact.)
Now to me, that is pretty amazing and awe inspiring. However, I also realize that some don't find that as appealing as attributing it to something else, and if that is the case, I just hope that it creates as much as a wonderment (curiosity) for them as the physiological answer does for me. Cause arguing over it is obviously a losing battle for both sides.
Thank you for this. I was starting to get a headache trying to explain the situation through logic alone.
You’re welcome. I have found that there are many contributing factors in people’s beliefs in the supernatural. Some being cultural, social, etc.
You can logically try to explain it away, even show evidence to the contrary, however if those things I mentioned are ingrained in early development they are hard if not impossible for an individual to put aside. It’s like asking you to put aside logical thinking which I would wager would be met with the same resistance you’re facing trying to convince others you’re right.
Like I said a losing battle on both sides.
The thing is, we've steadily moved away from discussing the possibility of a mystic experience to arguing over details of my childhood. The point of the experience is that it is nearly impossible to define or explain.
And you can question as much as you'd like the few details of my childhood that I've made available, but they are true.
Now what the dream was, or why? Who knows. It doesn't matter.
But I definitely did not meet my grandparents on my father's side before then. I had definitely never entered the state of Michigan before that. You can think whatever you want. But those things are true. It's not a matter of denial. What is there even to deny?
I'm an "illegitimate child". To an extent, there is no reason I should have ever met anyone on my father's side of the family at all. It is not anything like far fetched to think that none of those people even knew I existed. It's kind of amazing that I've met most of that side of my family.
And, given the evidence, who is denying what.
Are you denying the possibility that I hadn't met those people, been to their house, or into the state of Michigan before I did those things? Because that really seems to be the argument that you're trying to make, and it sounds pretty ridiculous as the basis of an argument.
I find paranormal and psychic stuff very intriguing and definitely entertaining. I have had experiences with it myself. I don't care what the scientific disclaimer is for the experiences. There's no fun in that.
The mystical, the paranormal and all that is certainly a concept worth entertaining.
I remember a line from a book that went something like, it was a time when people knew less and understood more.
I like that.
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