jngyslate
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28 Jul 2019, 11:36 pm
Arganger wrote:
jngyslate wrote:
Arganger wrote:
jngyslate wrote:
Arganger wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
So, what people are saying here is, the vaccination is not THE cause of autism, but could be A cause of autism.
Damn. If I'd not had the vaccine, and survived MMR, I would probably be NT (if the vaccine DID cause my curse).
Damn. If I'd not had the vaccine, and survived MMR, I would probably be NT (if the vaccine DID cause my curse).
No, not in one case ever has a vaccine ever caused autism. Whoever is selling you that idea can screw off.
All you need to know whether someone is "selling" you something or not is to know that it is dumb to speak in absolutes. Humans are imperfect creatures, so when they say things like "never" and "always", you can be assured that they dont know what they are talking about. The rational thing to say is "we dont know everything, we are imperfect." And on that note, to admit that there may be unseen side effects to vaccines, and that yes, some of these side effects may be harmful and/or MAY cause autism.
I would swear on my own life, on my afterlife if it was mine to give, that VACCINES HAVE NEVER CAUSED AUTISM A SHOT CANNOT AND NEVER WILL REWIRE AN ENTIRE BRAIN
and you know this because? because some imperfect scientists told you so? ok. All i said was that speaking in absolutes is dumb!
Because it's personal.
It assumes my brain is damage.
It turns my brain, my entire life into a monster under the bed to scare young mothers out of protecting their children.
I did no such thing. Even so, getting angry at people will never solve anything. I simply said that we should speak on what we KNOW. and what we KNOW, for a fact, is that humans are imperfect creatures.
28 Jul 2019, 11:40 pm
jngyslate wrote:
Arganger wrote:
jngyslate wrote:
Arganger wrote:
jngyslate wrote:
Arganger wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
So, what people are saying here is, the vaccination is not THE cause of autism, but could be A cause of autism.
Damn. If I'd not had the vaccine, and survived MMR, I would probably be NT (if the vaccine DID cause my curse).
Damn. If I'd not had the vaccine, and survived MMR, I would probably be NT (if the vaccine DID cause my curse).
No, not in one case ever has a vaccine ever caused autism. Whoever is selling you that idea can screw off.
All you need to know whether someone is "selling" you something or not is to know that it is dumb to speak in absolutes. Humans are imperfect creatures, so when they say things like "never" and "always", you can be assured that they dont know what they are talking about. The rational thing to say is "we dont know everything, we are imperfect." And on that note, to admit that there may be unseen side effects to vaccines, and that yes, some of these side effects may be harmful and/or MAY cause autism.
I would swear on my own life, on my afterlife if it was mine to give, that VACCINES HAVE NEVER CAUSED AUTISM A SHOT CANNOT AND NEVER WILL REWIRE AN ENTIRE BRAIN
and you know this because? because some imperfect scientists told you so? ok. All i said was that speaking in absolutes is dumb!
Because it's personal.
It assumes my brain is damage.
It turns my brain, my entire life into a monster under the bed to scare young mothers out of protecting their children.
I did no such thing. Even so, getting angry at people will never solve anything. I simply said that we should speak on what we KNOW. and what we KNOW, for a fact, is that humans are imperfect creatures.
Who cares? Antivaxxer care nothing for logic or debate. THEY AREN'T WORTH IT. I rarely ever say that, but antivaxxers are screwed up and way to stuck in their own fantasies. I know for a fact no vaccine is going to rewire a brain because that makes all of no sense.
Antivaxxers need no Leniency . None. We aren't hiding under kids beds waiting to "Steal" their futures.
jngyslate
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Joined: 24 Jul 2019
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 98
Location: Pasadena, TX, United States
28 Jul 2019, 11:59 pm
Arganger wrote:
jngyslate wrote:
Arganger wrote:
jngyslate wrote:
Arganger wrote:
jngyslate wrote:
Arganger wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
So, what people are saying here is, the vaccination is not THE cause of autism, but could be A cause of autism.
Damn. If I'd not had the vaccine, and survived MMR, I would probably be NT (if the vaccine DID cause my curse).
Damn. If I'd not had the vaccine, and survived MMR, I would probably be NT (if the vaccine DID cause my curse).
No, not in one case ever has a vaccine ever caused autism. Whoever is selling you that idea can screw off.
All you need to know whether someone is "selling" you something or not is to know that it is dumb to speak in absolutes. Humans are imperfect creatures, so when they say things like "never" and "always", you can be assured that they dont know what they are talking about. The rational thing to say is "we dont know everything, we are imperfect." And on that note, to admit that there may be unseen side effects to vaccines, and that yes, some of these side effects may be harmful and/or MAY cause autism.
I would swear on my own life, on my afterlife if it was mine to give, that VACCINES HAVE NEVER CAUSED AUTISM A SHOT CANNOT AND NEVER WILL REWIRE AN ENTIRE BRAIN
and you know this because? because some imperfect scientists told you so? ok. All i said was that speaking in absolutes is dumb!
Because it's personal.
It assumes my brain is damage.
It turns my brain, my entire life into a monster under the bed to scare young mothers out of protecting their children.
I did no such thing. Even so, getting angry at people will never solve anything. I simply said that we should speak on what we KNOW. and what we KNOW, for a fact, is that humans are imperfect creatures.
Who cares? Antivaxxer care nothing for logic or debate. THEY AREN'T WORTH IT. I rarely ever say that, but antivaxxers are screwed up and way to stuck in their own fantasies. I know for a fact no vaccine is going to rewire a brain because that makes all of no sense.
Antivaxxers need no Leniency . None. We aren't hiding under kids beds waiting to "Steal" their futures.
Theres dumb people on both sides. Anyone speaking in absolutes would be the dumb ones, they are easy to spot, usually yelling.
29 Jul 2019, 12:11 am
jngyslate wrote:
Arganger wrote:
jngyslate wrote:
Arganger wrote:
jngyslate wrote:
Arganger wrote:
jngyslate wrote:
Arganger wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
So, what people are saying here is, the vaccination is not THE cause of autism, but could be A cause of autism.
Damn. If I'd not had the vaccine, and survived MMR, I would probably be NT (if the vaccine DID cause my curse).
Damn. If I'd not had the vaccine, and survived MMR, I would probably be NT (if the vaccine DID cause my curse).
No, not in one case ever has a vaccine ever caused autism. Whoever is selling you that idea can screw off.
All you need to know whether someone is "selling" you something or not is to know that it is dumb to speak in absolutes. Humans are imperfect creatures, so when they say things like "never" and "always", you can be assured that they dont know what they are talking about. The rational thing to say is "we dont know everything, we are imperfect." And on that note, to admit that there may be unseen side effects to vaccines, and that yes, some of these side effects may be harmful and/or MAY cause autism.
I would swear on my own life, on my afterlife if it was mine to give, that VACCINES HAVE NEVER CAUSED AUTISM A SHOT CANNOT AND NEVER WILL REWIRE AN ENTIRE BRAIN
and you know this because? because some imperfect scientists told you so? ok. All i said was that speaking in absolutes is dumb!
Because it's personal.
It assumes my brain is damage.
It turns my brain, my entire life into a monster under the bed to scare young mothers out of protecting their children.
I did no such thing. Even so, getting angry at people will never solve anything. I simply said that we should speak on what we KNOW. and what we KNOW, for a fact, is that humans are imperfect creatures.
Who cares? Antivaxxer care nothing for logic or debate. THEY AREN'T WORTH IT. I rarely ever say that, but antivaxxers are screwed up and way to stuck in their own fantasies. I know for a fact no vaccine is going to rewire a brain because that makes all of no sense.
Antivaxxers need no Leniency . None. We aren't hiding under kids beds waiting to "Steal" their futures.
Theres dumb people on both sides. Anyone speaking in absolutes would be the dumb ones, they are easy to spot, usually yelling.
One side happens to have almost no one but dumb people, this isn't a matter of "Sides" or opinions. It's pretty dang cut and dry. I've never seen something so cut and dry! Don't try to make those things into a real thing.
29 Jul 2019, 12:34 am
jngyslate
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29 Jul 2019, 1:16 am
jngyslate
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29 Jul 2019, 1:41 am
29 Jul 2019, 3:55 am
jngyslate wrote:
Arganger wrote:
jngyslate wrote:
Arganger wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
So, what people are saying here is, the vaccination is not THE cause of autism, but could be A cause of autism.
Damn. If I'd not had the vaccine, and survived MMR, I would probably be NT (if the vaccine DID cause my curse).
Damn. If I'd not had the vaccine, and survived MMR, I would probably be NT (if the vaccine DID cause my curse).
No, not in one case ever has a vaccine ever caused autism. Whoever is selling you that idea can screw off.
All you need to know whether someone is "selling" you something or not is to know that it is dumb to speak in absolutes. Humans are imperfect creatures, so when they say things like "never" and "always", you can be assured that they dont know what they are talking about. The rational thing to say is "we dont know everything, we are imperfect." And on that note, to admit that there may be unseen side effects to vaccines, and that yes, some of these side effects may be harmful and/or MAY cause autism.
I would swear on my own life, on my afterlife if it was mine to give, that VACCINES HAVE NEVER CAUSED AUTISM A SHOT CANNOT AND NEVER WILL REWIRE AN ENTIRE BRAIN
and you know this because? because some imperfect scientists told you so? ok. All i said was that speaking in absolutes is dumb!
And yet anti vaxxers choose to speak in absolutes. Of course nothing is 100% safe. That's not an intelligent reason for not having vaccinations though. The intelligent approach is to find out which carries the greater risk,being or not being vaccinated. The idea that there are hordes of scientists purposely lying about the risks of vaccines is up there with the most paranoid and sensationalist conspiracy stories .
Quote:
15 April 2019, GENEVA - Measles cases have continued to climb into 2019. Preliminary global data shows that reported cases rose by 300 percent in the first three months of 2019, compared to the same period in 2018. This follows consecutive increases over the past two years.
https://www.who.int/immunization/newsro ... a-2019/en/
jngyslate
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Location: Pasadena, TX, United States
29 Jul 2019, 7:05 am
firemonkey wrote:
jngyslate wrote:
Arganger wrote:
jngyslate wrote:
Arganger wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
So, what people are saying here is, the vaccination is not THE cause of autism, but could be A cause of autism.
Damn. If I'd not had the vaccine, and survived MMR, I would probably be NT (if the vaccine DID cause my curse).
Damn. If I'd not had the vaccine, and survived MMR, I would probably be NT (if the vaccine DID cause my curse).
No, not in one case ever has a vaccine ever caused autism. Whoever is selling you that idea can screw off.
All you need to know whether someone is "selling" you something or not is to know that it is dumb to speak in absolutes. Humans are imperfect creatures, so when they say things like "never" and "always", you can be assured that they dont know what they are talking about. The rational thing to say is "we dont know everything, we are imperfect." And on that note, to admit that there may be unseen side effects to vaccines, and that yes, some of these side effects may be harmful and/or MAY cause autism.
I would swear on my own life, on my afterlife if it was mine to give, that VACCINES HAVE NEVER CAUSED AUTISM A SHOT CANNOT AND NEVER WILL REWIRE AN ENTIRE BRAIN
and you know this because? because some imperfect scientists told you so? ok. All i said was that speaking in absolutes is dumb!
And yet anti vaxxers choose to speak in absolutes. Of course nothing is 100% safe. That's not an intelligent reason for not having vaccinations though. The intelligent approach is to find out which carries the greater risk,being or not being vaccinated. The idea that there are hordes of scientists purposely lying about the risks of vaccines is up there with the most paranoid and sensationalist conspiracy stories .
Quote:
15 April 2019, GENEVA - Measles cases have continued to climb into 2019. Preliminary global data shows that reported cases rose by 300 percent in the first three months of 2019, compared to the same period in 2018. This follows consecutive increases over the past two years.
https://www.who.int/immunization/newsro ... a-2019/en/
It is absolutely NOT intelligent to lie to people by telling them that there are NO possible risks associated with vaccines, thereby scaring the crud out of them, convincing them that you dont care about their children, and them then choosing to not go through with ANY vaccinations. pro-vaxxers are just as much to blame for this as the anti-vaxxers getting consumed by fear.
29 Jul 2019, 8:36 am
jngyslate
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29 Jul 2019, 8:50 am
29 Jul 2019, 9:12 am
29 Jul 2019, 9:24 am
ASPartOfMe
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29 Jul 2019, 9:36 am
29 Jul 2019, 9:47 am
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... The main anti vaxx idea is not there is a possibility of risk in vaccinating people. The main idea is there is a conspiracy between government and big to poison children for profit. The fact the no peer-reviewed studies have shown a link between Autism and vaccines means [to the anti-vaxxers] that these studies are part of a cover-up[, and that] all people defending vaccines are either part of the coverup or gullible sheeple.
I made a few changes to what you said in order to clarify the position. Please forgive the presumption.Anti-Vaxxers are a subset of Conspiracy Theorists, in that the less evidence they have to support their claims, the more they believe their claims are valid. To these nutters, any real evidence presented to support an opposing view to theirs is "obviously fake" and part of the conspiracy to hide what they believe to be "the real facts" -- they are more interested in being believed than in telling the truth. They also rely heavily on shifting the blame and/or the burden of proof from their side of the conflict to ours.
Conspiracy Theorists are fun to debate, but their lack of any factual basis for their arguments gives a seemingly unfair advantage to our side.
29 Jul 2019, 9:50 am
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