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Imedatingayandere
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25 Apr 2022, 8:04 pm

I asked this on Nationstates years ago and it was equated to hitlers idea for a Jewish state in Madagascar...

so if that means anything



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25 Apr 2022, 8:05 pm

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As a proud autistic I think it would either work perfectly largely because a good amount if not most of autistic people can live on their own. Disclaimer: As much as I hate functioning labels I am going to have to use them a couple times.

It could also be an utter nightmare to and yes I am very much aware that the majority of autistic females go undiagnosed but however if this hypothetical autistic country has the same gender imbalance that autism does in the real world it would pretty much be screwed demographically for a very long time. The reasons why colonial Canada especially in New France and Ruperts Land had such sparse populations was largely because the amount of men far exceeded the amount of women with there being 5 men for every woman. It also depends on what type of autism and if the autistics in this nation have massive developmental delays and they made up the entire population the nation would be screwed.

If there were a couple of alterations such as having an even autistic male to autistic female ratio by being able to diagnose autism more effectively and it would also help to find a way to get rid developmental delays in more severely affected people to make them higher functioning (autism or not developmental delays are the worst). I think an autistic country could work out perfectly if were defining autism as Aspergers/High Functioning and this is not to say that we have it easier because we just like everyone else with or without autism can have it hard. Having autistic special interests greatly expanded could ultimately do wonders for most societies and this hypothetical autistic country would most definitely be one of them.


Same here , I would call myself proud of it



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25 Apr 2022, 8:07 pm

Imedatingayandere wrote:
I asked this on Nationstates years ago and it was equated to hitlers idea for a Jewish state in Madagascar...

so if that means anything


I think they were viewing it as something being imposed upon autistics, not as voluntary self-segregation.


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25 Apr 2022, 8:34 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Imedatingayandere wrote:
I asked this on Nationstates years ago and it was equated to hitlers idea for a Jewish state in Madagascar...

so if that means anything


I Specially phrased it as voluntary segregation and the thread really really really still looked at it looked like a horrible idea..

(ironically it was a very popular thread at the time)

I'm all up for it

someone on the tiny chat room and I talked about it , said he spoke about it with a guy

said the guy took the piss out of the idea

said he felt like kicking his ass (course he didn't but you get the idea)



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25 Apr 2022, 8:42 pm

No fireworks or balloons or loud cars or motorcycles! Maybe we could make there be a way for the weather to have no loud thunder either.



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25 Apr 2022, 8:52 pm

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No fireworks or balloons or loud cars or motorcycles! Maybe we could make there be a way for the weather to have no loud thunder either.


strangely I like noise , I play my games very loud



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25 Apr 2022, 10:38 pm

Imedatingayandere wrote:
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No fireworks or balloons or loud cars or motorcycles! Maybe we could make there be a way for the weather to have no loud thunder either.


strangely I like noise , I play my games very loud


Hmm, maybe you are of the hyposensitive type rather than hypersensitive (I think that is the correct terminology, correct me if wrong) when it comes to sound stimulus.



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25 Apr 2022, 11:02 pm

Lady Strange wrote:
No fireworks or balloons or loud cars or motorcycles! Maybe we could make there be a way for the weather to have no loud thunder either.




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26 Apr 2022, 8:48 am

Lady Strange wrote:
Imedatingayandere wrote:
Lady Strange wrote:
No fireworks or balloons or loud cars or motorcycles! Maybe we could make there be a way for the weather to have no loud thunder either.


strangely I like noise , I play my games very loud


Hmm, maybe you are of the hyposensitive type rather than hypersensitive (I think that is the correct terminology, correct me if wrong) when it comes to sound stimulus.


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28 Apr 2022, 8:01 am

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What would and Autistic Country be like?
Quiet, nonproductive, and isolationist.


I knew someone would say that lol..

Same with me too. It'll be a nation with a very low GDP, probably little in the way of industry and heavy machinery, little in the way of transport and a unsustainably low birth rate combined with a very high number of people on welfare. Of the highly gifted that do exist, they will be under immense pressure effectively babysitting a vast amount of the population.

It will also immediately be invaded by Russia or China. The countries only defence will be not answering the front door when soldiers ring the doorbells hoping they'll go away.

Even if it isn't somehow invaded, there will be a civil war and it'll be a very short and brutal one between bed wetters who cry when watching Bambi and the ones with some degree of courage who get tired of living for reasons already mentioned. A true seal clubbing one way or another.


Basically it'll be a complete disaster.

I dont cry when bambi dies.Although it is sad after I kill bambi.I have killed 18 bambis.I shot bambi for the first time when I was about 10.I kill bambi.I killed bambis mom one time.



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28 Apr 2022, 8:09 am

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I dont cry when bambi dies.Although it is sad after I kill bambi.I have killed 18 bambis.I shot bambi for the first time when I was about 10.I kill bambi.I killed bambis mom one time.
How is this ↑ relevant to the subject of this thread?



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28 Apr 2022, 8:11 am

I think it would make for a great reality show.



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28 Apr 2022, 8:13 am

Fnord wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
I dont cry when bambi dies.Although it is sad after I kill bambi.I have killed 18 bambis.I shot bambi for the first time when I was about 10.I kill bambi.I killed bambis mom one time.
How is this ↑ relevant to the subject of this thread?

Nades mentioned Bambi.So I gave my commentary on Bambi.Thats all sorry for the misunderstanding.



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28 Apr 2022, 9:36 pm

i think it would be something like bf skinner's utopia, if only because things would be done for rational reasons & not tribal reasons.

in walden two, if i remember correctly, everyone has to put in a little time at the work nobody wants to do; & the rest of the time they do what they want.

some of the respondents here seem to think autistic people are so fragile. i think a lot of this is trying to live in the hostile environment that is modern society. people would, instead, find shared-living arrangements where there is a mix of abilities & disabilities, & people could take care of themselves within these households.

internationally, it might be like the netherlands today (not the netherlands of 300 years ago!), where they have cultural capital rather than military or industrial capital. but this would have to be a different world, anyway, in which hell-bent global capitalism isn't grinding up every other kind of society for fuel & busydrones...

there would be a lot of cultural capital, not a little of it scientific invention. what passes for innovation these days is often glitz or outright fraud. there would be real innovation based on not being bound by what everybody else is thinking.

there would be no inequality. there would be no crime.


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29 Apr 2022, 8:44 am

Utopian conformity cannot happen without dictatorial control, because there is no escape from anxiety and struggle, and individuals do not think the same, feel the same, or have the same physical needs.  Only when you can force everyone to act the same in a fog of drug-induced serenity will you have peace and cooperation amongst the masses.



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29 Apr 2022, 9:09 am

Being the leader of a country involves enduring lots of sensory overload--from all sides. And being willing to cooperate with others under the influence of this sensory overload.

Contrary to what anarchists suppose, any entity consisting of more than a few people need a leader---hence, some form of "governmenet."