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TheWingman
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21 Oct 2011, 4:01 am

I love math as long at it not in school. The fact that it is in school makes it dull and I'm just not able to allocated any atention to it. The same goes for languages. The truly fascinating thing in math is that it allow to be closer to the thuth than any other things on earth. If you can really understand something like (a+b)^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2 you have a kind of mystical feeling because you know that this is true, it is true on the moon, it will be tru in 10 000 years, it is tru every where, every time, I find that really fascinating.



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21 Oct 2011, 5:29 am

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I love math as long at it not in school. The fact that it is in school makes it dull and I'm just not able to allocated any atention to it. The same goes for languages. The truly fascinating thing in math is that it allow to be closer to the thuth than any other things on earth. If you can really understand something like (a+b)^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2 you have a kind of mystical feeling because you know that this is true, it is true on the moon, it will be tru in 10 000 years, it is tru every where, every time, I find that really fascinating.


But this is true only with respect to how we have defined these things. We have created two unknown entities "a" and "b", the binary operations "+" and "multiply" (obviously ^2 is just multiplying it by itself,) and then wrote a tautological statement that is a consequence of these definitions. It will only be "true on the moon" if someone is there to imagine it.



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21 Oct 2011, 5:38 am

No, i despise mathematics. I can't even do simple multiplication.



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21 Oct 2011, 9:17 am

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I love math. When I say an equation or a proof is "beautiful", I mean it.

This, especially:

e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0

If you don't get it, try assuming that the exponential is polar coordinates for a complex number...

Beautiful, right? :)

I'm not a mathematician and probably never will be. It's just a hobby. But I love the pure logic of it.

Oddly enough, I sucked at arithmetic to the point that I didn't know the multiplication table until high school.


That is pretty cool. Have you seen this?

e^(i*pi) = -1

and so

e^(i*pi) = i^2

Kind of weird! Do you know what it *means*? It's so elegant and yet so odd how mixing two irrational numbers with a self-defined imaginary number would result in this weird equality that must geometrically mean something.


I wish I knew enough to understand that...


I think of complex numbers as two dimensional vectors with a neat multiplication property that works out such that the angles relative to the positive real axis add together while the lengths are multiplied.


Complex numbers are fascinating. It's really a shame they barely cover them in school. From an addition stand point, complex numbers can be viewed as an extension to real numbers by adding the imaginary axis. However, from a multiplication standpoint, they can be viewed as an extension to the positive numbers by adding argument. You see, multiplication behaves the same way over the positive numbers as addition does over the real numbers (if you need an explanation on how, I'll give it to you), and multiplication over complex number is really just a way to extend multiplication to negative numbers in a way that makes sense, is closed, and is also easy to add across. Complex numbers are remarkable.



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21 Oct 2011, 2:31 pm

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I love math as long at it not in school. The fact that it is in school makes it dull and I'm just not able to allocated any atention to it. The same goes for languages. The truly fascinating thing in math is that it allow to be closer to the thuth than any other things on earth. If you can really understand something like (a+b)^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2 you have a kind of mystical feeling because you know that this is true, it is true on the moon, it will be tru in 10 000 years, it is tru every where, every time, I find that really fascinating.


But this is true only with respect to how we have defined these things. We have created two unknown entities "a" and "b", the binary operations "+" and "multiply" (obviously ^2 is just multiplying it by itself,) and then wrote a tautological statement that is a consequence of these definitions. It will only be "true on the moon" if someone is there to imagine it.


Yes but it could not be otherwise, this is fascinating. Thought something completely made up, we can grasp something very true, the some laws which could never be changed, which were there, and will be there. This being said, I suck at maths.



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21 May 2012, 7:37 pm

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Yesterday I received an e-mail from Dr. Larson in the Astronomy dept. at UW. I don't know if she coined this or borrowed it, but her e-mail signature contains this line:

"Mathematics is the language of the Universe; everyone should speak it fluently."

I'll also borrow one from Robert Heinlein:

"If it can't be expressed in figures, it's not science, it's opinion."

I concur with both of these statements. Mathematics is calisthenics for the left brain.

Good fortune,

- Icarus is the derivative of Ryan...


Funny thing is, expertise in math is believed to be a right brain thing by experts, not left brain.


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21 May 2012, 7:41 pm

It fascinates me, but I don't understand it. :?


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21 May 2012, 8:32 pm

Not only am I fascinated by it, but when I see a mathematical error, I begin to break down. I don't know why, but numbers harmonize with my brain a lot better than words.



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21 May 2012, 9:52 pm

I always found math interesting, but I was never good at it; I just had a hard time comprehending some of the concepts, which blunted my interest in the topic. I've since taken an interest in statistics, though. :D



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22 May 2012, 2:37 am

I am fascinated, but now only after I finally had a teacher that believed in his students and helped them achieve their potential by causing them to think instead of forcing a rigid routine on them.

I was not fascinated in high school because of bullies and that rigid, unhelpful, uncaring teacher. He jokingly called me stupid.

Now, I can think of nothing better but to go to a quiet coffee shop with a theoretical mathematics philosophy book.



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22 May 2012, 2:48 am

I find mathematics interesting even though I'm not great at it. I do quite well, but I'm not the best. Anyway, numbers greatly fascinate me! I really really like numbers.



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22 May 2012, 12:16 pm

Yes, it fascinates me. I am wondering, if I'll pass the exam from partial differential equations. :P