Documentary about Asperger
Since I caught up adequately, they say I'm an "aspie" (even if I still have troubles with verbal communication).
I just don't get the rationale for moving someone from "autistic disorder" to "Asperger's" because they get new skills... It seems to me that the logical thing would be that a person gets a particular label and it sticks with them... but then I'm probably being pedantic about it... It's like a dog is a dog, no matter if it knows more or less tricks than another dog. Parents get all excited about "moving their kid to the right (or left or up or down) the spectrum", as if the fact that the kid starts talking at age 9 means that he suddenly moved from autism to Asperger's or PDD,nos.
I mean I get the idea that a lot of people would prefer the Asperger's dx because it seems less "impaired", maybe more employable or something, but shouldn't the dx stick with a person?
I'm not questioning your diagnoses at all, it just puzzles me how many people do this, get moved from "autistic" to "Asperger's". As far as I know there isn't an official reason for doing it.
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Some people don't like the DSM-IV-TR.
When I questioned the psycho about such, she told me that people can start off as "bad" and move up as they get older--even though I feel far worst now compared to then, but that's a subjective thing (not much is expected of a 5 years old). I guess if they're moving it towards a fluid spectrum, it kinda makes sense that one can attain various labels as they develop.
Objectively, I'm closer to "aspie" than "autie" when I'm placed next to the majority of the latter; in fact, apart from my early verbal impairment (which obviously rectified itself), I'm a stereotypical "aspie".
I like Gillberg's criteria for AS over the DSM; not for the addition of the possibility of delay in language development, but the need to have a narrow interest (which is one of the hallmarks of Asperger's [original] disorder).
When I questioned the psycho about such, she told me that people can start off as "bad" and move up as they get older--even though I feel far worst now compared to then, but that's a subjective thing (not much is expected of a 5 years old). I guess if they're moving it towards a fluid spectrum, it kinda makes sense that one can attain various labels as they develop.
Objectively, I'm closer to "aspie" than "autie" when I'm placed next to the majority of the latter; in fact, apart from my early verbal impairment (which obviously rectified itself), I'm a stereotypical "aspie".
I like Gillberg's criteria for AS over the DSM; not for the addition of the possibility of delay in language development, but the need to have a narrow interest (which is one of the hallmarks of Asperger's [original] disorder).
Dr. Sally Ozonoff used to be the only person at the MIND Inst. who worked with adults on the spectrum (then she dumped us and went to join all the other researchers working with preschoolers).
But... she said all of the individual traits of autism might be found in someone without autism. Like a person might just be shy and not autistic. It's possible to have a language delay and not be autistic. It's possible to flap and have stereotypical movements and not be autistc...
but the one thing that set autistics totally apart from any other group is that autistics collect facts or data (not necessarily stuff other people notice, but maybe a kid is an "expert" in all kinds of carpeting because he notices all the differences in the kinds of yarn used in making carpet and the kinds of pile/knots/padding, etc) and autistics enjoy sharing their collections of facts.
A schizophrenic person might talk to himself and an autistic person might talk to himself (probably for different reasons). A person with OCD might "perseverate" on an idea (did I turn off the stove?). However, OCD is not pleasant to the OCDer, but perseverations are usually pleasant to the autistic.
So yeah, Gillburg's criteria is smart for adding the "narrow interest" thing. I met Dr. Gillberg once. He was a really nice man, as far as I could tell.
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I know this is really an old thread, but I was just thinking about this documentary recently and I agree 100% that Nicky's main problem is his parents. Allow me to vent, if I may. The few reviews I read online were favorable, and I knew someone had to feel the same way I did. It's been a while since I've watched the film, so bear with me.
His parents, IMO, played a significant role in how Nicky turned out, and they seem oblivious to it. They knew that their son had – among other problems – major social deficits and don't appear to have ever corrected any of his inappropriate behavior. They seemed to just let him do whatever he wanted because he was a "genius who spoke multiple languages fluently and can memorize dates, etc.". What are good are such skills if he not only can't find maintain employment, but appears to have trouble with basic grooming skills at 21? It's one thing for a developmentally delayed person to wait a little while to "catch up" maturity-wise before getting a job, but there's generally some type of training or preparation in the time leading up to that. Obviously, this never happened with Nicky. His mother seems shocked and saddened when he wants to know why he can't sit at home and watch his beloved TV all day instead of getting a job. Well, why wouldn't he? They allowed him to do just that for the first two decades of his life and suddenly, when he hits 21, decide that NOW is the time to start looking for employment.
His father seems amused that Nicky thinks that his mailroom job is going to be a big executive position like he sees on TV. Does he not find the fact that his 21-year-old son doesn't understand that television shows don't always reflect real life extremely troubling? Moreover, no one seems to talk to Nicky about the fact that he won't be working anywhere near the executives, they just seem to think it's cute. As far as the racial remark that likely got him fired, a reviewer on IMDB brought up the following point about the incident that I never thought of:
If one of the defining factors of Asperger Syndrome is the inability to relate to other people and/or to pick up social cues, then why would you allow a person, who is already at a disadvantage socially, to carry such inappropriate racial prejudices? I doubt that Nicky picked up his fear of "Blacks and Hispanics" from his own experiences, since it seems that most of his time was spent at home with his parents.
When a child ACTS upon a racial prejudice that has been picked up from a parent or family member, you hope that said family member can see how their own prejudicial feelings/thoughts/statements can have a real impact on the actions of their children.
And for a parent of a child with Asperger Syndrome, wouldn't that realization be ten-fold? They've not only passed on a prejudice to their child, but they've done it to a child who already has a difficult time relating to others and whose inner thoughts (no matter how bad) will not always remain subtly bottled up.
And this argument doesn't even deal with the fact that they've taught their child how to hate and fear others...something that child will be a victim of simply because of his/her mental condition.
I was shocked that the story of the racist comment and Nicky's subsequent termination (which was most likely spearheaded by this statement) was not explored. Other issues such as were looked at a lot more closely with even some prodding of Nicky to open up.
I don't think it helps that the parents are extremely wealthy and very well COULD take care of Nicky for the rest of his life. As such, there may not be much incentive for him to actually be independent since he has everything he wants and needs in his parents' home. I felt bad for his older sister because I truly believe that when their parents die, Nicky will basically fall into her and her family's lap. You could tell by the way she was talking to him at one point about his future that she isn't happy with her parents' coddling him.
And am I the only that rolled their eyes when Nicky's father said he saw his newborn son and said he looked like a "philosopher king"? The more I watched the film, it made me wonder if such bizarre statements my have fed into some of Nicky's eccentricities. Sort of like people who have kids who misbehave and justify it by saying things like "Oh, he/she's a gifted prodigy! That's how they express themselves!".
