Post the most insulting/ condescending/ patronizing thing...
That's a difficult question to answer.
Once a psychiatrist fell asleep ( snoring ) after I started answering his question. I just stopped talking and thought it was a test , It felt like ages before he came round and muttered something to himself then said "same time next week?". To this day I don't know if he actually fell alseep or it was a test of some sort
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Hypocrisy is the greatest luxury. Raise the double standard
My dad told a visiting friend that they should pretend they're talking to a very young child when they talk to me because that's the level I'm at mentally. He said all of that in front of me. And then later he told me that I don't "really" have any anything, I just happen to meet the criteria for autism.
Make up your mind!
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Life ... that's what leaves the mess. Mad people everywhere.
Case manager in Alaska, upon my expressing severe, severe, severe depression in the dead of winter called it 'population control'. (pre ASD diagnosis, under bipolar misdiagnosis, on severely high doses of dangerous medications that were a Big Problem)
Years later, in court for disability (multiple disabilities here);
Judge: [looks to my elderly mother after threatening to kick me out if I speak again while it was my turn to defend my case when no one would take it] "She's too *smart* to be disabled." [and my mother proceeded to cry; I was just trying to be as prepared as possible but that's a bad thing???]...
((It took finding (another-- the first one bailed the day of court) a lawyer from another state, through (yet another) therapist, to get that mess sorted out))
GP 1: Your husband is the strangest person I have ever met. Mind you, this doctor worked at the state forensic psychiatric hospital that handled criminally insane prisoners. Fabulous!
GP 2: You'd lose 80 pounds of stress weight if you would divorce him.
Pediatrician: Who's your kid's real father? She's too well adjusted to he his.
ER doctor 1: What's he on? The drug urine test came back clean. We are doing a blood screen because his affect is totally off. He looks high.
Neurologist: He's too old to have Aspergers. He just has OCD and narcissism.
Numerous people: Why does he always look stoned? Why does he stumble around? Why doesn't he smile? Why doesn't he shut up? Why does he run away like a kicked dog when you don't agree with him 100%? (My husband panics and it's to avoid a king size meltdown down). Why are you still married to him? Martyr complex much?
They NEVER say anything to HIM. I'm the one who has to hear all their complaints. They just ignore him and move on.
Damn!
Each of those deserves a prize.
Sad thing is, all those doctors thought they were being *helpful*. I was pulled asided and told that nonsense on the down low.
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A guy working in the mental ward I was in years ago in the hospital said he couldn't understand why someone like me could draw cartoons that were cute and nice-looking. He didn't think hostile people were capable of doing such things. I asked him, "Do you think I'm hostile?" and he answered "VERY!".
But it's true. I was very hostile, given my situation where all kinds of horrific things were going on, I had horrible anxiety and was being forced to stay in an environment where I had no control or privacy and was treated like a prisoner and there was virtually nothing to do except draw my cartoons, the one thing they didn't take away from me. Also I did draw cartoons that really reflected my feelings, I just didn't show them to anyone.
GP 1: Your husband is the strangest person I have ever met. Mind you, this doctor worked at the state forensic psychiatric hospital that handled criminally insane prisoners. Fabulous!
GP 2: You'd lose 80 pounds of stress weight if you would divorce him.
Pediatrician: Who's your kid's real father? She's too well adjusted to he his.
ER doctor 1: What's he on? The drug urine test came back clean. We are doing a blood screen because his affect is totally off. He looks high.
Neurologist: He's too old to have Aspergers. He just has OCD and narcissism.
Numerous people: Why does he always look stoned? Why does he stumble around? Why doesn't he smile? Why doesn't he shut up? Why does he run away like a kicked dog when you don't agree with him 100%? (My husband panics and it's to avoid a king size meltdown down). Why are you still married to him? Martyr complex much?
They NEVER say anything to HIM. I'm the one who has to hear all their complaints. They just ignore him and move on.
Damn!
Each of those deserves a prize.
Sad thing is, all those doctors thought they were being *helpful*. I was pulled asided and told that nonsense on the down low.
Why can't they say those things him? He is an adult, not a child.
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Son: Diagnosed w/anxiety and ADHD. Also academic delayed and ASD lv 1.
Daughter: NT, no diagnoses. Possibly OCD. Is very private about herself.
A urologist, looking at my Rx list, said, "What do your doctors say about your depression?"
Not really knowing what he was getting at, I answered that they think my depression is secondary to being on the autism spectrum (which, of course, is true).
"You're autistic..." He said, and then started to accuse me of causing my [urological pain] by "playing with it" ( yes, that kind, but those were his words). "You're playing with it aren't you?" He said again, several more times. The next urologist I visited was professional and had the real solution to my pain. Sorry if this has been TMI.
At the time the bulk of the crap comments were said to me, my husband was not diagnosed with ASD.
The two working diagnosis were schizoid personality disorder and/or substance abuse. None of these doctors wanted to start a s**t storm by tangling with a crazy person/drug addict.
Very few doctors will get in your face and call you a weirdo or a liar.
The two working diagnosis were schizoid personality disorder and/or substance abuse. None of these doctors wanted to start a s**t storm by tangling with a crazy person/drug addict.
Very few doctors will get in your face and call you a weirdo or a liar.
So what does a doctor do then when they think bad things of their patient? Like what if they think they don't have AS, they are just an a**hole. Do they pretend to agree with their patient or do they falsely diagnose them? What do they say instead if they have a negative opinion about their patient like they don't try hard enough or they are just looking for an excuse to justify their failures and how they treat people or just to be different?
I also find out they sometimes diagnose their patients behind their backs meaning they will give them a diagnoses but not tell them about it. So I wonder what they tell them instead about their problems without using a label?
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Son: Diagnosed w/anxiety and ADHD. Also academic delayed and ASD lv 1.
Daughter: NT, no diagnoses. Possibly OCD. Is very private about herself.
So what does a doctor do then when they think bad things of their patient? Like what if they think they don't have AS, they are just an as*hole. Do they pretend to agree with their patient or do they falsely diagnose them? What do they say instead if they have a negative opinion about their patient like they don't try hard enough or they are just looking for an excuse to justify their failures and how they treat people or just to be different?
I also find out they sometimes diagnose their patients behind their backs meaning they will give them a diagnoses but not tell them about it. So I wonder what they tell them instead about their problems without using a label?
My most recent doctor sent me a letter by mail saying I am too difficult a case to treat so they will not be able to service me after just one appointment-- where I had an acute problem (ear infection with pneumonia) but also needed to get referrals for specialists since, new GP, new insurance, etc...,-- despite that being the best my insurance could do for a GP for me (not even someone with an MD, for that matter, which, with my multiple disabilities, isn't something that makes me feel awesome; like MD's are only for rich people, not the disabled.) --
And the last doctor I had before that (still not an MD--but doesn't take my insurance and the money to go to him does not exist anymore), I was very ill; and the nurse kept asking stupid questions and I have no tonal control and I started to get very overwhelmed. She wrote in big letters on my chart "BIPOLAR?" (I'm not) and I saw it when the doctor had it in his hand and came back into the room. He knew I was autistic and the nurse got into some trouble between that and other behaviors apparently. -.-
Seemed to have escaped much of this.
Not condescending, but got just plain odd things from shrinks.
The first shrink mom and dad sent me to (when I was like 8 or 9) was beyond useless. In one session the subject of the our up coming big family summer vacation road trip out west came up. I told him that I "like vacations". He then kept pumping me to explain to him "why?" I liked taking vacation trips. That bares repeating. WHY I like vacation trips.
All my kid mind could come up with was "well..it's different". He replied "being thrown into a barrel of ice water is 'different'!". Never could come up with a good enough answer for him, and ended up feeling mildly dumb. Half of a century later as a middle aged adult thinking back on it it still seems odd to me that "why I like going a vacation trip to see the cousins and the grandparents, and the sites out west" isnt self-explanatory.
As a child I loved to draw my own comic books with crayons. Make up stories and draw the characters living out the stories in groups of pictures- like crude comics.
Years later mom and dad told me about how they told one of my shrinks about that habit, and about how I called each installment of these comic book stories "episodes". They told me that saying that to the shrink got the shrink angry at them! The shrink tongue lashed them, and said that "NO child would ever use a term like 'episode'!" And that they then chastised my parents for telling aggrandized stories about their kid-me!
I COULD take that as a compliment (that the shrinks thought I was an impossible kid genius).
And I was an aspie. I probably did occasionally use grown up terms that most eight year old didnt use. But "episode"?
If the dumb shrinks had ever paid attention to the TV fare that any eight year old would have consumed at that time (the time being the early Sixties) they would have noticed that the term "episode" is not particularly "grown up". Lol!
Every dumb TV show on the air (both kid cartoons, and dumb sitcoms) at that time referred to each installment of itself as an "episode". TV announcers constantly talked about "this episode of bat man.. episode of Hogan's Heroes". So for a child to call a chapter of his own crayon drawn stories "episodes" would be a natural way for an early Sixties child to ape the media.
My guess is this: the word "episode" is also part of social science jargon. Shrinks use it themselves in describing the lives of their patients. Apparently SOME shrinks have their heads so far up their own asses that they dont even realize that some of their shrinkspeak terms are also common terms used in the real world. Lol!
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