Aspies are built for war

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Elan_1.

You're either a very young kid, or you don't know the first thing about wars (aside from video games). I was in Vietnam. As an E3....that means the lowest of the low. How did I get in? I lied a little bit. I thought it was a good way to have an adventure. Aspies (at least this one) do not make good murderers. I do not have PTSD from the experience, because apparently, I had PTSD when I went in.....so it wasn't a problem.

But war is a very dirty business.....if you want to volunteer for Iraq, they'd probably love to have you. If you live through it, you can come back and give us your opinion after you've kicked down a few doors and killed everyone inside the house (called Force Protection), or shot up a car full of kids......then come back and tell us about how aspies would make great soldiers.

In a war, people who follow orders without question are usually the first ones killed. What you need in a war are Anti Social Personality Disorders.....who kill for the hell of it, and enjoy it. But then you have real problems when they get back home, because they don't turn the switch off. And I'm not talking about the poor guys and girls suffering from PTSD. I'm talking about a certain kind of person who loves killing other people. They are commonly called monsters. I know a few of them. I served with them. I thought I could be one. But it's just a whole different mindset.

ASPIES (most of us) have a pretty good measure of compassion for our fellow human beings. We don't enjoy the idea of going out and killing them. If you do, be my guest. Go volunteer. You'll be in Iraq in six weeks. Faster if they fast track you. And if you live through it, we'll welcome you home as a war hero. Otherwise, we'll watch your flag draped coffin come off an airplane and doff our hats. Uh, that is if they find anything of your body after you get hit by some of our adversaries wonderful weapons. Going up against a Kalachnikov is no fun. Not if all you've got is an M 16. Gimmie a nuke every time.

Rotsa Ruck.


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Thank you for your service. I have (and had) many friends and relatives who were also there. Some didn't come back. The ones who did came back changed. My brother was a lot like I am now, when he went. Two tours with Special Forces, supposedly in Thailand that sounded a lot like Cambodia, and he came back a Southern Baptist. That was a big change, trust me. A cousin came back addicted to heroin. When I made it to college, I had classmates using up their GI Bill. I still volunteered when I graduated. I couldn't pass the physical because of stomach ulcers as a teen. Permanent downcheck. I knew what I was getting into and did it because I believed in a greater good. Reagan's economic warfare hadn't yet bankrupted the Soviet Union. The Middle East was exploding (yeah, I know now that the damned Middle East is ALWAYS exploding...). There were still only a small handful of nuclear powers and I wanted to work in Army Intel. I would have served in the motor pool if that's all I could get. All of that and I agree 100% with your assessment of our current mess. It should seem familiar, you've seen it before. I saw it by proxy through relatives and friends.

I wish you diddent generalise that to people with aspergers no one can be automatically 'Built for war' they have to be trained and even then no one can become like a robot everyone has fear although most people try to hide it.

This strayed all over the place.... the OP stated a position I found interesting, but overblown. What I read into it was basically:

In a battle situation where weapons are muscle powered and the combat is mostly a 1 to 1 fight, Aspie's may enjoy some evolutionary advantage because of sensory acuity and the ability to concentrate.

Then it wandered off into "Aspie's aren't suited to the military", which I responded to because I KNOW Aspie's who've served, and made careers out of it. No, it's not a lifestyle for everyone, but I thank the Goddess that it is for some. NT and Aspie's both.

I'm still interested in the original point, in that for Asperger's to have been retained and spread, it must confer some evolutionary advantage. Better hunting, or better craftsman, or better warrior, there is SOME advantage that allowed the genome to survive and be dispersed. Thinking about things like that is one of MY special "Aspie" interests. I was hoping to get some feedback from kindred spirits, and I have, a few.

my brother is an aspie and he's in the army, he is being promoted to lance corporal soon.

Asperger's covers a wide range of symptoms and different types of people not to mention the fact that certain things like clumsiness, inability's to socialise can be overcome by some aspies with time due to good old individual willpower, so considering these things your question is a bit silly imho.

I guess we'll find out. My aspie friend is in Iraq right now.