What level of functioning do you think I am?

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11 Feb 2008, 1:41 am

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Thanks for your reply, I def could pass for low functioning certian times, but most of the time its moderate-high functioning.

Where would indecisiveness fall into this category? I notice that my indecisiveness causes me to lose function. I am "paralyzed" by the options and just need to get walked through the possibilties repeatedly.

Do you ever get this way?

Yea im like that sometimes as well too!

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11 Feb 2008, 1:51 am

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Age1600 wrote:

Thanks for your reply, I def could pass for low functioning certian times, but most of the time its moderate-high functioning.

Yea im like that sometimes as well too!

Ha, it really annoys the sales personell. When I bought my computer I had several workers there explain to me the difference between two computers. I arrived there at 6:20 and didn't leave until 9. I just walked back and forth between the two computers.

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11 Feb 2008, 2:11 am

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Age1600 wrote:

oscuria wrote:

Age1600 wrote:

Thanks for your reply, I def could pass for low functioning certian times, but most of the time its moderate-high functioning.

Yea im like that sometimes as well too!

hahah, oh well at least ur gave the employees there an eventful day hehe

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11 Feb 2008, 7:12 am

NewportBeachDude,

That dude is high-functioning for someone with autism. That's how it goes. Asperger's and autism without mental retardation are deemed as "high-functioning"; people see "high-functioning", equate "high-functioning" to "normal but quirky", this is erroneous as the term "high-functioning" is used in relation to autism, not "normal". From someone who needs help to get by at a level that's far below their cognitive potential (high-functioning), to someone who needs constant help to survive, or they die (low-functioning). This is a generalization, but that's how it goes for the majority.

When you get to the stage where someone is completely independent in all facets of existence, they then don't have a disorder, they've crossed over into "normal".

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11 Feb 2008, 8:24 am

im sorry....... this is ridiculous.

i enjoy some of your posts, but this is one of your more juvenile ones.

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11 Feb 2008, 8:31 am

I'd say "high functioning."

IMO the dichotomy between HFA and LFA is a bit muddled because mental retardation and other intellectual deficits are often mixed up with the communicative, sensory, and motor aspects of autism. I've read many stories of autistics thought to be profoundly mentally ret*d that actually turned out to have above-average intelligence when given an alternate way of communicating, such as Internet message boards.

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11 Feb 2008, 8:51 am

i don't think it matters as long as you are okay with your level of functioning.
if you're not, then seek out help to work on the issues that concern you.

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11 Feb 2008, 8:53 am

Odin wrote:

IMO the dichotomy between HFA and LFA is a bit muddled....

Indeed. However, the acquisition of speech and a higher level of intelligence does promote a better outcome (higher level of intelligence on standardized tests that involve verbal ability).

The thing that gets me is that many people take the "high-functioning" part in the wrong context.

For the majority of individuals who're "high-functioning", Asperger's and autism are severe developmental disabilities that profoundly affect one's life.

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11 Feb 2008, 9:07 am

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The thing that gets me is that many people take the "high-functioning" part in the wrong context.

Particularly when considering what it's in relation to.

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11 Feb 2008, 5:24 pm

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NewportBeachDude,

When you get to the stage where someone is completely independent in all facets of existence, they then don't have a disorder, they've crossed over into "normal".

That's an interesting way to put it. And, I guess at that point, the person would not show many of the indicators of the disorder as well after medical evaluation. Okay. That's makes sense to me.

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11 Feb 2008, 8:01 pm

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Age1600, my wife and I watched a PBS docu called "The Thinking Man" about a high-fucntioning Asperger man at age 21 who was articulate and had savant traits. The problem we had is that even though he could communicate and was articulate, that's where the "functioning" part ended. He needed help with personal grooming. He was fired from two jobs while the documentary was being shot because he couldn't understand social rules, crossed boundaries at his job, made racists comments, and argued with a superior. Then he tried to live on his own, but after two weeks was back with his folks because he couldn't cope. His social behavior at his own bday party was like that of a 3 year old. They say this man is high-functioning Aspergers, but he will need someone to watch over him for the rest of his life and he's only 21.

To me, higher functioning should be without constant direction, intervention, supervision. If not, you're not really functioning as much as being assisted and aided. Since you say you need help with day to day things, need constant supervision in certain environments, have meltdows and problems feeding yourself, I don't think that's high-functioning at all. It's low to medium functioning, depending on the environment you're in from what you've posted. I don't know you personally, so I'm going by what you posted on this thread.

The whole notion of functioning means different things to everyone. I know parents who say they're kids are high-functioning, but the kids are nonverbal and 2-3 years behind in school. Then, I know others whose kids are high-functioning and they show little signs of Autism at all. Who knows?

Yeah, I would have called that guy upper-lower, to mid-mid functioning. To call him high functioning is silly. As for Daniel's statements, where would he put Alex, myself, or the many others here that could often pass for normal to a degree?

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11 Feb 2008, 8:02 pm

2ukenkerl wrote:

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i can never pass off for normal hahaha... even if i try hard as hell... and if i am trying i just wind up being MOAR autistic.

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11 Feb 2008, 8:05 pm

2ukenkerl,

I'd peg Alex as someone with Asperger's (it's as clear as day in the videos; he doesn't appear "normal" to me at all).

Asperger's is "high-functioning" on the diagnosable autism continuum.

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11 Feb 2008, 8:06 pm

Sedaka wrote:

im sorry....... this is ridiculous.

i enjoy some of your posts, but this is one of your more juvenile ones.

Age's? This is a really good question which deserves a good answer

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11 Feb 2008, 8:07 pm

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Yeah, from his article with Heather from Next Top Model, he definitely sounded like it.

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11 Feb 2008, 8:09 pm

ebec11 wrote:

Sedaka wrote:

im sorry....... this is ridiculous.

i enjoy some of your posts, but this is one of your more juvenile ones.

Age's? This is a really good question which deserves a good answer

I agree... i find this post NOT juvinile in any way... Sedaka :cry:

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