Asperger's Syndrome its not just a white thing

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16 May 2008, 1:53 pm

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That probably has more to with accessibility to diagnostic mental health services than it does with genetics.


I was thinking that too


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16 May 2008, 3:44 pm

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This is true, but some are aware of their own sociopathy and see no problem with it.

Be VERY careful around sociopaths. They may seem friendly on the surface but if they get an opportunity to con you, rob you, or kill you, and think they have a good chance to get away with it, they will do so without a moment of hesitation. Sociopaths, psychopaths, and people with Anti-Social Personality Disorder are what I would call clinically evil. (Note "Anti-Social" is not the same as "Asocial"; the latter means not socializing with others because you don't want to or find it difficult, while the former means actively disturbing and destroying social bonds and relationships. Probably most people here know that, but I thought I'd say it in case there was anyone who didn't).



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16 May 2008, 4:42 pm

ASPD is different from most other mental disorders since the sociopath acts normal most of the time. This is because they are "fake" and don't say what they're really thinking.



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16 May 2008, 10:31 pm

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Seriously, how many black nerds can you think of? That one kid doesn't count - he was a tv character. ;)


me :P

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I'm saying it might be more looked down upon, less tolerated. Sort of how homosexuality is less tolerated/accepted among blacks than whites. I just believe it's hidden more and denied more and suppressed more in the black community (and this is by no means exclusive to the black community).


again, YES

let's see some examples.

from Wiki:

The lack of demonstrated empathy is possibly the most dysfunctional aspect of Asperger syndrome.[2] Individuals with AS experience difficulties in basic elements of social interaction, which may include a failure to develop friendships or enjoy spontaneous interests or achievements with others, a lack of social or emotional reciprocity, and impaired nonverbal behaviors such as eye contact, facial expression, posture, and gesture.[1]
-Wiki.

Let's see. Remember how many Afro-American females bitch-snap, gesture in all sorts of f**ked-up ways and can be disorienting-as HELL? Yakking and Yakking and yelling and storming in groups? I've seen it. And when the person f***s up and isn't as aggressive and expressive in that format...ehh. I remember some problems like that from 5-8th grade and Freshman Year..

"This social awkwardness has been called "active but odd".[3] This failure to react appropriately to social interaction may appear as disregard for other people's feelings, and may come across as insensitive."

And you know how people ASSUME you're "Dissing" them and that automatically leads to aforementioned bitch-snap and yakking and not STFUing.

"People with AS may analyze and distill their observation of social interaction into rigid behavioral guidelines and apply these rules in awkward ways—such as forced eye contact—resulting in demeanor that appears rigid or socially naïve."

People assume that you're challenging them to something, or something. Again, aforementioned bitching..

that's all for now.

I never had to deal with the problem of "Acting white" though, people rarely used that at all so I don't see that too much. Though, as I said this is my experiences so :P

This is my intrepretation


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16 May 2008, 10:38 pm

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that is the greatest concentration of narrow stereotypes unsubstantiated by any documentable back up I have seen in one place.

Merle


He's right. The African-American Homosexual Scene tends to be underground given the fact that Black Ministers tend to have a lot in common with Caucasian Evangelicals.

also see:


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http://www.blacklightonline.com/phobia.html

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe ... ty&spell=1


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17 May 2008, 9:41 pm

Warsie wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
that is the greatest concentration of narrow stereotypes unsubstantiated by any documentable back up I have seen in one place.

Merle


He's right. The African-American Homosexual Scene tends to be underground given the fact that Black Ministers tend to have a lot in common with Caucasian Evangelicals.

also see:


EDIT: fixing link
http://www.blacklightonline.com/phobia.html

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe ... ty&spell=1


I am quite aware of the "down low".

Most of my anecdotal information is from Asian women. They spot me any where, any time. They will point blank refuse me when I go in for a manicure or pedicure. I have had Asian women refuse to rent me rooms in Hawai'i. I have had Asian women tell me to take my laundry to another laundromat, like I was catching or something. I don't know what it is about me, probably my serious lack of mirror neurons, but they sense it and they want no part of it. Black women didn't care much for me either, but I think that was because I was living with the Hippies and they didn't care for Hippies much, either. One black woman told me she didn't respect me because I was 'throwing away' my birth right for being a white person by rejecting the whole economic thing they thought was just in the cards for me because I was white. I never quite understood why they thought white poor was a poor as black poor. . . but, there it is.
White women it takes a longer time to realize something is not right. I guess it is because I have learned the socialization and culture. Later, they are all 'wow, you talk so strangely and have little in common with me and the world of people I know." And it't true.

When I think about it, I don't blame them much. They want a stress free social interaction, just as much as I do, and if they can see they aren't going to be able to depend on me following the social norms and that is potential stress. As professionals they didn't want to be responsible for any mis understandings when cutting my hair or doing my nails,or asking to borrow the white out at work, and if I didn't keep my mouth zipped while the intital negotiations were made, I usually could come away with out stepping on any social or business transactional toes.

and as for men? Men are men, Asian, black, white or green with purple polka dots. When I was young they were lining up to give me a break! Now that I am old, not so much, it is more like I am invisible to them.

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17 May 2008, 10:52 pm

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Someone said on one of the posts that only white people have Asperger's Syndrome thats not true i am black and i have AS syndrome.


I am Asian and I have autism AS syndrome


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18 May 2008, 1:51 am

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But I do agree that the further right you go politically, the more tolerant people seem to be of Asperger's.


Bull. The right-wingers are the ones that will tend to think that it's "all in your head and some old fashioned discipline (AKA a beating) will fix you up." :roll:


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18 May 2008, 1:55 am

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White supremicists are usually sociopaths. That's why "Nazi" is short for National Socialist.

A Sociopath has little or no conscience.

And?

What the hell would you want a conscience for anyway? It'll just screw up your ability to judge things fairly.


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This is true, but some are aware of their own sociopathy and see no problem with it.

*Waves*


So, you are a sociopath and you are proud of it? You are seriously disturbed, get help.


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16 Feb 2013, 6:04 pm

I'm black and I have it. It's pretty common in my family, actually. I usually stuck with white kids because they treated me better. Everyone thought I was some kind of uncle tom because I said saying the "n-word" was bad and I did moderately well in school. Soooo yeah, that's how that works lol. I do well in college, also and have learned to disassociate myself from most black kids. Not that black kids are bad or anything, they just don't value scholarship as much as I value it. Actually, most kids: white, black, asian or whatever don't value it as much. It's just you get into different kinds of politics with black kids vs. other races. I would LOVE to be accepted by them, but that would require an entire cultural shift I'm not willing to make. Alas, Aspergers is EVERYWHERE in EVERY race in the same proportion. Sometimes it goes undiagnosed because of racism, lack of access to healthcare, ignorance of the condition etc. My father has Aspergers and he STILL doesn't know it lol. Apparently, he's very good at math and stuff like that, or whatever. I'm not sure, exactly. What I'm trying to say is that white people aren't the only ones who love nerdy things. I'm into comics, computers, and all sorts of things.



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16 Feb 2013, 6:15 pm

This topic is interesting, even if you look at the demographics of people with Asperger's on WP most report being of at-tleast mixed decent; I have seldom seen those of pure African-American or African heritage report Asperger's however I'm sure it does. I honestly believe that being an Aspie is a strictly genetic thing, now where these Genes come predominantly from, I don't know.


With African Americans it could also be a cultural thing. Blacks are less likely that whites (statisically) to have access to affordable health care and also less likely to follow up for checkups and health screenings, so maybe African American's have a lower probability of being correctly assessed and diagnosed. This is very common with many other kinds of illnesses, even those illnesses that are more predominant in African Americans but due to health care issues, they are not usually discovered until much later in life compared to other racial groups.

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I'm black and I have it. It's pretty common in my family, actually. I usually stuck with white kids because they treated me better. Everyone thought I was some kind of uncle tom because I said saying the "n-word" was bad and I did moderately well in school. Soooo yeah, that's how that works lol. I do well in college, also and have learned to disassociate myself from most black kids.


Cultural disconnect.



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16 Feb 2013, 7:01 pm

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But I do agree that the further right you go politically, the more tolerant people seem to be of Asperger's.


Bull. The right-wingers are the ones that will tend to think that it's "all in your head and some old fashioned discipline (AKA a beating) will fix you up." :roll:


I have heard this a lot!! Even from the "newspeople" on FOX.



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16 Feb 2013, 7:07 pm

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Someone said on one of the posts that only white people have Asperger's Syndrome thats not true i am black and i have AS syndrome.


The Vitamin D hypothesis would suggest that the prevalence of autism among blacks could be significantly higher than it is among whites, even if it is less likely to be diagnosed due to socio-economic disparities.



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16 Feb 2013, 7:47 pm

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Surely nobody actually thinks that only white people have AS? Really? I can't believe anyone would say that!


I agree!



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17 Feb 2013, 8:06 am

That's ridiculous. Even black people, asian people and people of all ethinicities can have Asperger's.



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17 Feb 2013, 11:55 am

Ruchard wrote:
Someone said on one of the posts that only white people have Asperger's Syndrome thats not true i am black and i have AS syndrome.


REally? it's funny that YOU actually believe that.


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