A MUST READ: The Autism Rights Movement!

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29 May 2008, 3:56 am

hitler was supposed to have AS how about that


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29 May 2008, 3:58 am

Bradleigh wrote:
hitler was supposed to have AS how about that

Do NOT invoke Godwin's law.
Any and all comparisons to Hitler result in instant failure of point!


Besides... lets leave religious or racial genocide to one side for now.
What is important here is genocide of stupid people (as measured by IQ, rather than anything more rhetorical).... and / or non-spectrum folks.

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29 May 2008, 4:02 am

i used to think people should be measured by there inteligence but i realised that some of my best friends are no the brightest. he had some sort of problem that i cant remember


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29 May 2008, 4:13 am

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i used to think people should be measured by there inteligence but i realised that some of my best friends are no the brightest. he had some sort of problem that i cant remember

Maybe you ought to make better friends then.


I generally have this unwritten note in my head that if there are any stupid people I actually favour at the end.... that they get to simply be sterilised and not actually butchered. I do try to avoid having stupid friends though. It does help that stupid people usually can't understand me so easily when I talk about things (in person I tend to refer to a lot of things in academic biological or geological terms, which require someone of equivalent education and understanding to comprehend fully).



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29 May 2008, 4:44 am

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What we need more than anything, is someone to back us up publically. Like a celebrity,


Like Sigourney Weaver is already doing?


I guess she's just not making outlandish enough claims so the media latches on; unlike Jenny McCarthy. :roll:

Perhaps folks are hoping for a famous person to "come out" who HAS an ASD him/her self-or a family member/spouse-and that the person has positive attitude/outcome ?

Here's link to where Weaver did a poster/ad campaign (around time she appeared in "Snowcake") with bunch of ASD dx'd people (scroll down page & wait for image to load):
http://www.grasp.org/
"For larger version" of the poster they did-
http://www.grasp.org/media/sw.psa.jpg
I liked the text of what's included in the ad (about how NOT everyone with this dx wants/needs "a cure")-too bad I can't read it without having to download the whole jpg (or wait for the picture to load on the website/page).


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29 May 2008, 5:49 am

I looked at the poster - that IS great and wonderful to see her doing that. Once again though, no disrespect to Ms Weaver who is an amazing actress - but sadly she's not going to draw the kind of attention Jenny is getting. I think too it gets more attention if the person is Aspie themselves, or has a family member. People connect to that. Still fantastic that we have Sigourney on our side, I'd love to see her on Oprah or something helping shed a little light on us.



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29 May 2008, 6:38 am

Shelby wrote:
I looked at the poster - that IS great and wonderful to see her doing that. Once again though, no disrespect to Ms Weaver who is an amazing actress - but sadly she's not going to draw the kind of attention Jenny is getting. I think too it gets more attention if the person is Aspie themselves, or has a family member. People connect to that. Still fantastic that we have Sigourney on our side, I'd love to see her on Oprah or something helping shed a little light on us.


Hi Shelby
As much as I am not a fan of Jenny $%#@$ I tend to agree, at least she has people discussing issues... or should I say demanding apologizes... Like you I also feel Sigourney Weaver is a great actor, hopefully there is more to her autism link than just promoting her films... as do not know her personally would be hard to say if on the autism spectrum or not, but what I have seen of her in films I feel there is a possibility... would be good... Autism Diva: Sigourney Weaver on autism
http://autismdiva.blogspot.com/2007/05/ ... utism.html


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30 May 2008, 5:06 am

I've given up on oprah.com, they have deleted that article you posted AGAIN even though I tried to post it a few times after yours was deleted. The mods there are insane. They let that psycho Krissie chick abuse me but then they stepped in when another member defended me. Crazy.

Oh I see, Sigourney was researching a role. Well I hope the movie does really well and that the Aspie character she plays in the film is portrayed accurately. If it does well that could be the thing we need to get some attention. And Oprah just MIGHT do a show on THAT hehehe.

I would LOVE a celebrity to take on Jenny, refute all her ridiculous vaccine comments and try to bring her over to our side. It would get a lot of attention if the other person really slammed her (like Tom Cruise to Brooke Shields, just look how much publicity that got!) Especially if the other celeb was an Aspie.



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30 May 2008, 6:20 am

Hi Shelby

I have given up there too, its too frustrating trying to help- one of the best autism articles in a long time and they just delete it - "a link" :shrug:

Still the alien army are gathering.....


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30 May 2008, 7:30 am

oh GAY, people have the same fantasy as me.



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30 May 2008, 8:56 am

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oh GAY, people have the same fantasy as me.

People having the same fantasy as you are attracted to other people having the same fantasy as you?

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30 May 2008, 9:28 am

Koplewicz was stunned. “People kept misinterpreting the ads, and there was a contagion to that. And there was no way we could seem to explain ourselves,” he said

*sarasum* right. We 'don't get' what it meant there. uhmhm..



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30 May 2008, 11:01 am

Belfast wrote:
Sophist wrote:
anbuend wrote:
Shelby wrote:
What we need more than anything, is someone to back us up publically. Like a celebrity,


Like Sigourney Weaver is already doing?


I guess she's just not making outlandish enough claims so the media latches on; unlike Jenny McCarthy. :roll:

Perhaps folks are hoping for a famous person to "come out" who HAS an ASD him/her self-or a family member/spouse-and that the person has positive attitude/outcome ?


I don't know. I think even if Sigourney was autistic or had a kid who's autistic, unless she were selling the "We have to cure these kids" angle I just don't think she'd get much attention because of the way the media is right now and whose pockets they're in (organizations like Autism Speaks, CAN, etc.).

Hopefully with time, the more autistics themselves come into the limelight, this will start changing. That's why I think among other things that this article was an excellent start. At least readers can start to realize, whether they would still support a cure or not, that there are TWO sides to this story (or, well, as the article says 3) and the public can become more aware that many autistic people are actually very against finding a cure-- which I think most people not involved with the autism or autistic communities would find quite surprising. I know people I have told this to certainly have.


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