Responsible Autistic gun owners
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Yes, all the cases you give are true, but even in the worst inner-city areas in this country, there is still a fraction of the violence you get in some US city downtown areas. At least here, if someone is shot, there is a thorough investigation, and the person responsible is put away for a good long time.
However, in the Bronx of NY, shooting is a daily occurance between rival gangs because of the easy availability of weapons. The police tend to not notice, particularly if the victim is poor and black. The police are afraid of the gangs, which are often connected to an international mafia of some sort. The only reason why Freund's case is so public is because it happened in a rich, white area which is not used to gun warfare. If it happened in the Bronx, Freund and his victims could be dead, and we would be none the wiser.
It is an upper class neighborhood. Anyway, the gangs in the Bronx get their guns illegally, just like in England. Posession of handguns purchased after 1968 are banned without exception in the NYC area, and long gun licenses are extremely expensive and extremely hard to get there. Much like the way it is in London.
I had a cousin that committed suicide this year with a hand gun. He bought the hand gun at a gun store. The gun store owner did asked some question so he should go through the criminal back ground checks with the state and federal agencies. He past them with a waiting period of time. Then he one day committed suicide. I thank God that he only killed himself and no one else. He himself had no criminal record so he could purchase the hand gun after the waiting period.
I personally own a shotgun myself. Again it is not the guns fault it is the one that pulls that trigger. All guns can be used safely. The process to even get a gun is hard enough. Yes many do buy them legally and some do commit crimes with them. But the vast majority do not commit crimes against anybody.
I am not a right wringer or a left wringer. I believe if You do not have a criminal record You should at in the U.S. have a right buy and purchase even be licensed to own that gun if You desire to own the gun of Your chose.
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No where near, old chap. I had a lovely bit of sarcasm involving that tropical sea you're swimming in that I was going to use, but you didn't really deserve that.
Of course, I'm not on first name terms with the ruling elite here, so I've got to be a lttle careful; you know, all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others, and all that.
And then there's Switzerland. That goes to show it's not the guns, per se, that are the problem.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1566715.stm
LOL @ guns being hard to come by in places like New York and LA.
I must admit though, if the police dont start responding quicker and more efficiently to calls here, then bringing in gun laws is tempting as here it isnt that unusual for the gangs to terrorise people without much care because they know that conviction and real punishment is unlikely.
In the poorer schemes people regularly have a mob mentality so maybe it wouldnt do them any harm to know that that 'soft target' that they had been hounding would be able to give them back the same damage as they get.
Im against guns now but when i get older and less able to physically defend myself and i get hassle and the police dont take me seriously or take two hours to respond then maybe guns would make the thugs that would assault me and take my pension think twice? Whats the crime statistics for Texas anyway as regards to violent crime, thefts, and violent deaths? It's all very well saying people should be responsible about it but why are so many people not being?
Ascan, Switzerland is a different kettle of fish. Once we have such a responsible, grown up society then we can compare us with them but i think we are closer in gun use to the US if we get guns.
Im against guns now but when i get older and less able to physically defend myself and i get hassle and the police dont take me seriously or take two hours to respond then maybe guns would make the thugs that would assault me and take my pension think twice? Whats the crime statistics for Texas anyway as regards to violent crime, thefts, and violent deaths? It's all very well saying people should be responsible about it but why are so many people not being?
When I said that guns are harder to get in New York and LA, I was talking about legally. You can get just about any type of gun ever made within an hour of getting out of jail for a violent felony on the black market, and it's about the same situation everywhere else in the world. The reasons you have described for possibly wanting a gun when you are older are exactly the kinds of reasons the Majority of American households have a gun. It's 1:50am here, so I'll have to look up the exact crime statistics for Texas and the national average tomorrow.
Is it so hard to imagine that not every gun owner has the motive of harming people when they own a gun? I learned to use a firearm at age 14, and have never once been inclined to shoot anyone. There are other reasons to own a gun than the intention of personal violence!
I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were at least one gun to each person where I live, or close to it, yet, while there are gun related homicides, our area certainly isn't renowned for them. To my knowledge, there are many more deaths related to drinking, drugs, and driving, in various deadly combinations. ![]()
I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were at least one gun to each person where I live, or close to it, yet, while there are gun related homicides, our area certainly isn't renowned for them. To my knowledge, there are many more deaths related to drinking, drugs, and driving, in various deadly combinations.
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I think the government are trying to ban,or at least raise the required age of owning airguns because of the amount of underage users and if I remember correctly-a child was killed with one in Scotland(?),it's quite common here for animals to be injured or killed from air gun pellets as a lot of young thugs know they will get away with it.
Speaking of all guns generally,it is prejudice when the responsible legal owners are treated the same as the illegal and irresponsible users,a person who has a gun is often expected to do violent things with it because the people who have problems with them have only heard stories of gun violence,and never stories about the responsible owners.
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Oh. Well, the only time my son has ever used a gun, it was an airgun, for the purpose of killing off some of a local colony of pocket gophers. There were hundreds of them and they had infiltrated our property and garden to the point where our food supply was in serious danger.
We actually told him to please shoot them if he could...I guess that makes him a thug?
Of course I do not advocate senseless, sadistic killing of animals without good reason...
Wow, a lot of you left-wingers are just as closed-minded and bigoted as you accuse your opposites of being, the #1 indication being how the guy's said that he does not want a gun control debate, and when the other guy points that out, you call him a "right-winger" as an insult. Then we get into all the pseudo-Marxian babble about black/white, rich/poor, etc.... Left-wingers seem to love to toss around "white" and "privelege" as insults too, which is just as petty and despicable as some skinhead who looks at any Jewish person as being a part of some giant conspiracy. Leftists do the same damn thing. Judge a devil by his deed for f*ck's sakes and quit with the self-loathing crap, no one respects people who can't respect themselves.
That person you speak of who might lose the court case, if he was mentally unstable to the point that he really wanted to hurt someone, the lack of a gun would not stop him.... He could use a machete, an axe, a knife, a rock, a lava lamp, his fists.... anything.... I live in Canada where legally obtaining anything outside of having a longgun for hunting or collecting is damn near impossible.... But yet every week in my city, I read about some shooting. These aren't kids using their daddy's shotgun, the primary weapons are 9mm semi-automatic pistols which were obtained off the street. The criminals will always have guns. Also, before guns, people cut each other open with blades aor bludgeoned eachother to death. Should we ban all hard substances or sharp edges?
In my opinion, an autistic person who is into guns would likely be more responsible than an NT, as they tend to take their hobbies very seriously and would be less likely to skip crucial details or procedures such as making sure that the gun is not left loaded within reach of others.
AS for that story about Rosie O'Donnell, what a disgusting pig. What a waste of flesh (and a lot of it at that).... That fat pig would have been roasted if she'd said that to me.
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possible responses to this thread:
1. autistic people shouldn't be allowed guns but the rest of the (general) population should (unlikely because this is a site for people with AS).
2. only autistic people should have guns and they should be illegal for everyone else (even more unlikely that the first option).
3. no one should be allowed guns whether they are on the autistic spectrum or not (but no one is allowed to say this because it conveniently comes under the category of "gun control").
so the only option is.....
4. being in complete agreement with the person who wrote this thread.
not only is gun control relevant to the topic, but it is essential in order to have a fair, balanced discussion.
