do i have aspergers or am i just a loser?

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04 Sep 2008, 9:14 am

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You sound dangerously close to a real loser. But you sound smart. You should use your intelligence to do something productive like making money or attracting women. If you are a real aspie, you have a high IQ most likely, and that is your best weapon. You can turn it towards anything you want, and be a superstar in that field. Do that, and you'll feel better about yourself.


Wow, talk about sounding condescending. You're not helping the matter, kid.

If you're so up there, give the guy some tips instead of sounding like an obnoxious brat.

Being an Aspie as nothing to do with IQ.

Hopefully YOU will use your intelligence and will see that your post is quite offensive.


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04 Sep 2008, 9:25 am

Don't ever call yourself a loser. I used to do that. Whether you have AS or not, you must have SOMETHING if you are feeling that bad. I don't know where in the world you are but you need to see a specialist trained in all sorts of conditions including AS. It sounds like you are depressed too.


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04 Sep 2008, 9:54 am

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Girls are not that different from guys.

This is a joke, right ?
No... No, it really isn't. There's not that much difference between genders. There are a few things you can't do as easily in female company (dirty jokes and potty humor strike me as the most important); and guys tend to like to talk while doing something rather than just talking; but other than that... well, it's really just window dressing. Different mannerisms, maybe; definitely different styles of dress; but there is ever so much more to being human than your gender. Being male or female probably defines you a heck of a lot less than being Aspie/NT, the country you live in, your race... I just don't see gender as particularly important.


you must be joking, my dear. After having experimented at school by forcing boys to learn haw to sew, cook etc and girls doing mechinics and woodcarving, etc, our scientists and researchers came to the conlcusion that you can't do much against the chromosomes that define gender and went back to square one at school. Girls and boys are every bit different not only in bosy, thinking and attitude, but also in brains. We are jsut 2 opposites and that's why we need to unite to be one and wholesome body. The insitnct of the hunter is still there in the male body while the instinct of the girls is always domestic and thinking of nest making...which drives me mad! :lol:


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04 Sep 2008, 1:13 pm

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AS doesn't start in your teens, it starts in your early childhood.

As a child I was a difficult case for my parents. I used to cry all the time and was always problematic in company of other children. While being alone I was very calm. I could spend hours playing with a belt wringing it in and out -> repetitive behaviour. I used to do stimming a lot back then. Like rubbing my feet one against the other when in bed trying to fall asleep what was always very difficult and took hours, also because of the sensory issues i had since i didn't like the bed sheets touching my body. any of that is familiar? any sensory issues? any stimming?

Loborojo wrote:
do the online aspie quizz

and yes, what was your score on http://www.rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php ?


my aspie score was 115/200
my NT was 74/200

it says "you are very likely an Aspie"

alright, now i'm seriously considering seeing a therapist to get a diagnosis. will it really matter though considering that i'm gonna be a senior in college this year?



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04 Sep 2008, 1:14 pm

thedarkpassenger wrote:
You sound dangerously close to a real loser. But you sound smart. You should use your intelligence to do something productive like making money or attracting women. If you are a real aspie, you have a high IQ most likely, and that is your best weapon. You can turn it towards anything you want, and be a superstar in that field. Do that, and you'll feel better about yourself.


get out of here you jerk



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04 Sep 2008, 1:28 pm

Okay thedarkpassenger does sound trollish but you really should absorb some of his words. The beneficial parts of his post. If you have the ability use what you have.



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04 Sep 2008, 1:37 pm

MickeyJones wrote:
thanks for the replies everyone. keep them coming



Hi Mickey. Welcome here.

I can very much relate to having a phase in my life where I had no friends at all -at least not ones I could be close to. I can relate to what you said about not being able to tell if a woman is interested in you. I didn't have my first girlfriend until 23.

You had an obsession over Magic The Gathering? Cool. I have been a gamer of various sorts all my life -and plan to be for the rest of it. My obsessions are with computer and board games for the most part.

Until I heard about AS and came here I had so many questions and no answers. This place and some of the wonderful people here have helped me with getting logical answers to things that I have or do deal with. I would like to invite you to stay here and at least read what others struggle with, discuss, achieve, etc.

Again welcome.



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04 Sep 2008, 2:44 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Okay thedarkpassenger does sound trollish but you really should absorb some of his words. The beneficial parts of his post. If you have the ability use what you have.
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"Trollish"?

There are ways to say it in an acceptable manner.

There is no place on this board for "thedarkpassenger"'s condescending arrogance.

Like I said: If he thinks of himself in such a high opinion, he could give some examples. I'm waiting.

Or is it simple projection? Who's the loser here?

I'd like to see if he is indeed "succesful" and has the "money and the girls" like he said Mickey to do.

It is surely not what Mickey needs.... and I am glad that he told him to f**k off.


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04 Sep 2008, 9:22 pm

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you must be joking, my dear. After having experimented at school by forcing boys to learn haw to sew, cook etc and girls doing mechinics and woodcarving, etc, our scientists and researchers came to the conlcusion that you can't do much against the chromosomes that define gender and went back to square one at school. Girls and boys are every bit different not only in bosy, thinking and attitude, but also in brains. We are jsut 2 opposites and that's why we need to unite to be one and wholesome body. The insitnct of the hunter is still there in the male body while the instinct of the girls is always domestic and thinking of nest making...which drives me mad! :lol:
So how come I'm a horrible cook who's gonna be an engineer? How come there are many other girls like me, plus guys who are good with their hands? Do you have any idea how much mechanical skill is required to sew a fancy dress?--at least as much as is required to repair a lawn mower (and I can do both)! No. While women and men have different cognitive styles--men are more compartmentalized, women, more general--the differences between the "average man" and the "average woman" are nowhere near the differences between two human beings of any gender. Incidentally, I feel no "need to unite" with anybody... I am fine as a self-contained unit... we are not all meant to marry--though I do agree with you that a mixed-gender team is probably more likely to solve a problem because of mixed cognitive styles, if the society-imposed restrictions do not stop them from truly cooperating... Society does determine a lot of what you think of as your gender; it goes beyond biology.


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04 Sep 2008, 9:47 pm

Mickey you sound very very depressed but you are not a loser. A lot of Aspies gravitate towards what I call science or information fields(one deals better with equipment or information) rather than people. This is very normal and common for people with Asperger's Syndrome. This is why you see a lot of them in accounting and the IT field.

If you relate better to information or technology than to people believe me you are far from being alone.


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04 Sep 2008, 9:55 pm

aintnowreck wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Okay thedarkpassenger does sound trollish but you really should absorb some of his words. The beneficial parts of his post. If you have the ability use what you have.
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"Trollish"?

There are ways to say it in an acceptable manner.

There is no place on this board for "thedarkpassenger"'s condescending arrogance.

Like I said: If he thinks of himself in such a high opinion, he could give some examples. I'm waiting.

Or is it simple projection? Who's the loser here?

I'd like to see if he is indeed "succesful" and has the "money and the girls" like he said Mickey to do.

It is surely not what Mickey needs.... and I am glad that he told him to f**k off.


It's a bad idea to call someone a loser. That is why I changed my post to "some" of what thedarkpassenger said, not all. His manner was somewhat condescending. I don't think anyone who is going to college and trying to make the most of life is a "loser", far from it. Overcoming odds makes the winners not the losers.
That is why I commend some of what the troll posted. It's a good idea to make the most of what you have, not indulge in endless rounds of self pity, what good does that do? That is enough to cause a bout of depression!


I don't think intelligence has anything to do with hooking up with members of the opposite sex. I guess some people equate intelligence with social life. I don't happen to be one of them. So, I disagree with some of the post but not all of it. Thedarkpassenger's is a bittersweet post, yes indeedy!



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04 Sep 2008, 10:07 pm

being introverted doesn't make you a loser.



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04 Sep 2008, 11:12 pm

Callista wrote:
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you must be joking, my dear. After having experimented at school by forcing boys to learn haw to sew, cook etc and girls doing mechinics and woodcarving, etc, our scientists and researchers came to the conlcusion that you can't do much against the chromosomes that define gender and went back to square one at school. Girls and boys are every bit different not only in bosy, thinking and attitude, but also in brains. We are jsut 2 opposites and that's why we need to unite to be one and wholesome body. The insitnct of the hunter is still there in the male body while the instinct of the girls is always domestic and thinking of nest making...which drives me mad! :lol:
So how come I'm a horrible cook who's gonna be an engineer? How come there are many other girls like me, plus guys who are good with their hands? Do you have any idea how much mechanical skill is required to sew a fancy dress?--at least as much as is required to repair a lawn mower (and I can do both)! No. While women and men have different cognitive styles--men are more compartmentalized, women, more general--the differences between the "average man" and the "average woman" are nowhere near the differences between two human beings of any gender. Incidentally, I feel no "need to unite" with anybody... I am fine as a self-contained unit... we are not all meant to marry--though I do agree with you that a mixed-gender team is probably more likely to solve a problem because of mixed cognitive styles, if the society-imposed restrictions do not stop them from truly cooperating... Society does determine a lot of what you think of as your gender; it goes beyond biology.


well, you surely have more Male chromosomes than female so you are better at male thinking and behaving, I have more female chromosomes, so I am more sensitive and less macho than an average male who got the hunters instinct


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05 Sep 2008, 12:03 am

It's all so vague isn't it..."spectrum" sounds so two dimensional.. maybe "Autistic nebulosity" is more appropriate.

It's hard not to define yourself as a loser without success at something

I try to be content with the fact I have a roof over my head, enough firewood and food for the week, enough gas to get to town, enough power for the lights & laptop and an internet connection.

I'm a bit socially inept... and dislocated
doesn't make me a loser

I'm morally ambiguous
doesn't make me a loser.

I'm Spiritually misplaced.
doesn't make me a loser

I'm financially incompetent.
hmmm.... let me rethink this and get back to you.



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05 Sep 2008, 12:51 am

thedarkpassenger wrote:
You sound dangerously close to a real loser. But you sound smart. You should use your intelligence to do something productive like making money or attracting women. If you are a real aspie, you have a high IQ most likely, and that is your best weapon. You can turn it towards anything you want, and be a superstar in that field. Do that, and you'll feel better about yourself.


Just use your intelligence to make money and attract women. That sounds simple enough. Why didn't I think of that?

The problem is that intelligence equals degrees, published papers, and personal satisfaction at acquiring knowledge for its own sake and one's own growing abilities, but not necessarily money, at least not right away. There's lots of unusual things I do, like modifying my vehicle to work with nonstandard equipment, which works for me but might be merely annoying for someone who doesn't understand what I'm doing.

Intelligence can be isolating, which itself can be good or bad depending on your current needs and how you experience it. People are put off by intelligence because it makes them feel inadequate by comparison when they can't understand what you are saying. The trick is to be intelligent, but don't let it show too much. People are impressed by new cars, nice clothes, knowledge about football, and pneumatic battering rams with neat looking grooves cut into the trigger piece. It's dumb, I know, but that's how it works.

Unfortunately, scientists don't have the same visibility as rock stars, and many of them don't photograph well, either.

Money itself can only help with women. However, I have questioned how ethical it would be to give another person a free financial ride through life in exchange for her company, as seems to be required of me. Doing so would work to get what I want, and surely the relief from participation and responsibility must seem like a welcome treat for the person recieving it, but in the long run it does more harm than good. Pampering and facilitated inactivity can sabotage a person's health and ultimately prevent the person from reaching her full potential as a human being.

Case in point:

http://www.nndb.com/people/688/000026610/

Do you suppose she'd still be alive today if she had undergone the development of character and common sense that comes from working for a living, as a kindergarten teacher, which is what she was doing before she met Prince Charming?

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/royal ... e-charles/


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05 Sep 2008, 7:07 am

From reading that it seems like you have aspergers. You have a major in electrical enginneering which is awesome so you're doing better than most people.