If Aspergers is a gift, why do lots of people here moan

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lol unlike you i would cut my own arm off to be an NT

I think it's the same for many people when they look at people who they perceive as being one notch up in the pecking order. Moreover, as my dad reminded me once, most people have their own 'cross to bear' (don't worry atheists, he's not a christian!) -Maybe the solution is not in becoming NT (which would obviously take the most advanced technology conceivable), but in approaching life with autism as a challenge to be dealt with. We can't be cats, who don't notice how much more complicated than themselves the people around them are, and we can't be dogs, who rejoice in having masters to look up to, so we can't get around the fact that being autistic, one way or another, makes us feel bad (as well as good in a sense) to begin with.

Seeing autism as an obstacle that forces us to blaze our own path in life, everything we achieve, both in developing our strengths and in building on our weaknesses, becomes a small victory. I hope I can inspire someone with these words, because when I've felt low in the past, I've often seen no reason not to wallow in rage against my predicament, and I feel that's left me far less productive than I would have been had I controlled my feelings.

am think those who only think aspergers is a gift and not disability [as in,dont want to recognise it as being disability] have never been around aspies who are diagnosed 'severe' and are lower functioning,whos impairments are so strong they affect themselves and often others in a big way,and its nothing to do with NTs not adapting for them.
people should get understanding of a condition at all ends and abilities,before judging all to fit under one type.


as for moaning,moaning is always more common than being nice about something,whether its about asds or not.

but maybe because this is a support forum for auties,aspies,adhders,other asd like neurologically different WPers and because of having no one else to speak to,or not being able to communicate it verbally,or not knowing how to, or having mental illness... could all be reasons for complaining a lot on here.

Sorry, undefineable, but that last part - "an obstacle that forces us to blaze our own path in life", I strongly disagree with your notion of it being only a small victory.
Imitating what you are not in order to acheive some measure of stability is small victory - fighting against hostile, xenophobic majorities for rights to life is another.
I do blaze my own path - it's big, broad, fiery hell for all! I revel in it; never will I meekly take a place as social underdog and try to fit in! If people don't like me, they can shove it.
What's this pitiable notion of deference to majority rules that seems trendy with some?
"Ya'll", to borrow a phrase from my American friends, need to buff up on your egos - LF, HF or otherwise. Hell, borrow some of mine - I've plenty to go around.

I very rarely see other aspies claim to be mildly ret*d but that word is commonly passed around as mockery on pop culture boards.

the ones who see AS as a gift are the gifted ones so there theorys are completely wrong if your mind remembers everything it hears then yes i call it an gift to if you have to consentrate to consentrate to know what 1+1 is then its a curse whe all can go on like this thats why the ones who say its a gift are the ones who have and the brainless are the ones who call it a crappy desease braineating crapp like i do

im not sure it might be adhd to but who cares brainless=brainless

I didn't think it was possible to have AS and have any form of MR at the same time. And secondly why would you assume such a thing about yourself? Having strengths and weaknesses is everyone's story. Sad thing is, a lot of us focus on our weaknesses....

you're exposed now "undercover alien"

lol xD

might be adhd to dunno but the fact is that im forgettable this might change if i take "ritalin" and "glutenfree diet"
(whats MR?)
*edit: i still think not all aspies have there abilities

I also have ADHD and forget things easily. Even with the meds I still am forgetful but it has helped in other ways. MR means "mental retardation" (or should I say mental impairment?)

does those meds really help much?
please tell me if they make me smarter or something similiar ill be eating my own arms (dont ask why)
edit: how did it help you?

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I think it's both a gift, a disability, a curse, and any other word for it. People control there own destinies, and if you blame your problems completly and totally on your ASD then you aren't helping anyone. I think it's a challenge, like how can I use what it gave me for good stuff?

I would have cut my arm off just to know I was AS before I was 50. . .heck, before I was 40 . . oh, the heck with it ALL. . I would have given my whole past life to have just KNOWN I was AS in my teens. now, that would have been a gift!

Merle

cause in truth its more of a curse. "gift" is something mommies and adies tell us wen we're young so we feel good about ourselves and act like it doesnt do a god damned thing. in truth, it does...

I think of being aspie as both a gift and disability in society today.

Bright blaring lights- disability. Is it something we must have in every store, most jobs? No. Take away one sensory issue and it become less of a disability.

Being outcasted for having individual thoughts and doing things your way but still getting the same results. Disability. You did not conform to someone else's standard procedure so even if you get the job done, that will be overlooked and you may lose your job and self esteem after being told off. Does it have to be that way? This inflexibility seems to go both ways.

Being very good at limited interests that aren't actually all that limited. Disability unless you find a job that accepts you for what you are able to do well but you will also have to put up with others questioning your likeability and if you should remain on the job for not hanging out with everyone after work. You may not get a promotion. It's no longer about how good you are at your job but how good you are with being sociable that determines how far up you may climb. Does it have to be this way? No. It's just society decided that education wasn't as valuable as the gift of gab and fashion sense.

Does anyone else see how our society is crumbling as a result of such extremities? We need a mixture of both.

Education is on the decline and schools are yet another disabling factor for those on the spectrum. Not because homework cannot be done, grades cannot be high but because fear of being bullied and lives ending. Parents of those on the spectrum must worry about this too. Prinipals and teachers are often on the side of the more socially normal student regardless of if another not socially normal student's life is in danger.

There are many factors in place that make our lives more disabling. If it were the extreme opposite and social factors weren't a big accomplishment, socially normal people would be deemed disabled. Really they wouldn't be disabled underneath it all but picked out as outcasts to not understand and left to deal with the consequences of no middle ground.

Everyone has a safe haven. If you are into fashion but around those into computers, you may find yourself overwhelmed after the event seeking others who were into fashion and find yourself feeling less chaotic.

I like fashion more than I like computers. I dislike stereotypes.