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Loborojo
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11 Sep 2008, 10:08 am

I don't know if hurting animals is an aspie thing or not, sure is thye quiz us if as a child we enjoyed cuttin gup worms,,,
I have lived 7 years in India and traveled through Pakistan and Middle East, In those countries I have seen frequently how children throw rock at each other and even at adults when they get angry. I was shocked. One day I saw 4 nice little kids of the age of 5 to 6 carrying a huge slab of rock, I folowed them and in my horror I realised they were going to drop it on a littter of puppies fo stret dogs. I shoed them away, the adults just laughed at my horror.

Teasin lions with throwing rocks at them in the zoo in Madras, etc. No one told the kids to get lost. It seems a luxury of the west to care about animals...


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11 Sep 2008, 10:13 pm

WOW

let me get this straight

1. You through a rock at a child and were mad that it missed cuz of your clumsiness?

2. The little girl obviously has mental issues and doesn't know what there doing is wrong, some people are lower on th spectrum believe me ive seen autism people hit other people for no reason at all throwing a stone at a bird is nothing compared to what goes down with some of these people.

3. If i were her parent and you hit my kid with a rock I would have called the police and had you arrested, thats completely ridiculous and your reason's for doing it are wrong and you should have known she had mental problems thats not a parenting issue do you think a parent can control a child who hits other people for no reason whatsoever and has no understanding? go read up on autism cuz thats the case in A LOT of LFA people



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12 Sep 2008, 2:23 am

ProtossX wrote:
If i were her parent and you hit my kid with a rock I would have called the police and had you arrested, thats completely ridiculous and your reason's for doing it are wrong and you should have known she had mental problems thats not a parenting issue do you think a parent can control a child who hits other people for no reason whatsoever and has no understanding? go read up on autism cuz thats the case in A LOT of LFA people


The level of understanding is key... It's amazing how the world goes by physical age to assess someone's probably development and maturity. The truth is, it doesn't matter how old the body is if the mind can't keep up.

Any one else understand what I'm saying?



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12 Sep 2008, 5:01 am

I'm glad to see someone defending the animals, I can't stand seeing children chasing birds or hurting animals and the parents do nothing. But you know what...I also can't stand seeing a child hurt by an adult. You threw rocks at a child with the serious intention to hit her? Fair enough to just throw in her direction to get her attention, but you seriously wanted to hurt a child? I'm really disturbed by your references to "monster" and "it" for a small child. NT or autistic, that was a little kid. Her father was an ass for not stopping her, but little kids don't understand and she may not have been aware she could injure them.

After reading some of your responses to people here, I think you are a scarily dangerous person. Get help. I say that in all seriousness, GET HELP. You will be sitting in a jail cell writing your next post to this site if you throw a rock at a child and actually connect. Autism is no excuse for that kind of lack of empathy.



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12 Sep 2008, 5:08 am

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you seriously wanted to hurt a child?

i really didn't get the impression that she wanted to hurt the kid. and she most likely threw only very small rock that would do no harm even she hit her. it was just to make her stop.

btw, she doesn't reply to this anymore, it's only us feeding this thread.


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12 Sep 2008, 5:31 am

They should throw people like you into prison. Throwing rocks at a kid even if you did not intend to hit her is outrageous. Granted that the child needed to be better controlled, but you definitely should be locked up.

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Okay. So Saturday my husband and I went to Lake Washington to feed the ducks. It was a nice day, so (ugh) there were many people at the shore. We sat on a stone wall, feeding the ducks, who would come close enough to take the bread from one's hand. After a while, a small blonde female child started running through the flock, shrieking like a banshee. The creature's piercing screams made my eardrums ache excruciatingly. I said "Beat it, kid," to no avail.

Then the evil beast picked up a long stick and began whipping at the birds as it ran through the flock. "Hey!" I said. "Stop it!" Still nothing. What sort of monster was I dealing with? Where were its parents? And why would it not STFU?

I could no longer take it when it began picking up rocks and throwing them at the ducks. I picked up rocks (all around there were about 1" in diameter) and began throwing them at the kid. I said, "Let's see how you like it when someone throws rocks at you, you little expletive." Of course, none of the rocks I threw actually hit the thing, because I'm totally uncoordinated. Too bad. I was aiming for its head. :twisted: However, the desired effect was achieved, because finally, a parent came running. Standard NT behavior - never do anything to stop their own monsters, but when someone attempts to teach the little punks a lesson, ooooooooohhhhhhh, that's so wrong! :roll:

The father removed the thing, which only screeched louder now that its death and destruction was thwarted. Then he came back. He starts in on me that his child can't help her behavior, she's - (get ready for it) - autistic!

"So am I, and I never abused animals and ran wild! Control your damned kid!" I snapped back.

The man looked startled, then got angry about my "claims" of being autistic. He must have seen too much Autism Speaks propaganda. I showed him my med alert (thrust it in his face, actually), and told him I act like a human being because my parents expected me to. No, it's not always successful, but it's better than being a brute all the time.

Then my husband and I left. I was getting so angry I was losing my ability to speak. I hope I got through to the doofus. And yes, I know, technically it was wrong to throw rocks at a kid, no matter how painful the assault on my ears and regardless of the fact that it could have killed ducks because of NT society's ridiculous notions that value human life above animal life. Oh, how I loathe the inconsistencies of NT society!



12 Sep 2008, 8:43 am

Good thing she doesn't have any kids or never will I hope.



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12 Sep 2008, 10:23 am

Does anyone truly understand the scenario or is it just me? I like the way people are condemning the OP on this one. Everyone has already judged without being there.
I do not condone hurting people, nor do I condone hurting animals. But it seriously offends me when someone refers to "The animal was destroyed" Last time I looked, that animal was self-aware.

Has anyone on here ever been in a situation which was peaceful only to have someone ruin it and send you crazy where law and logic goes out the window?

- I'm finished on this thread



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12 Sep 2008, 2:05 pm

eigenvalue, I think you and this little girl have much more in common than you realize. The same lack of empathy that kept her from realizing that it was wrong to hurt the ducks, kept you from realizing that it was wrong to hurt her.



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17 Sep 2008, 8:17 pm

sorry to put this question here, but I read it everywhere..what does OP mean????


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17 Sep 2008, 10:25 pm

Probably at an earlier age, I would've acted similarly. ESPECIALLY if the little howler monkey was screaming repeatedly and putting my senses under attack as well as hurting the animals.

Thankfully I have better impulse control now. Nonetheless, I would've definitely called her out for it, and had I seen her father or any other guardian, I would've asked him to 1) teach his kid that throwing rocks at animals who are doing her no harm is wrong, and 2) teach her to quiet down when in a public space that other people were trying to enjoy as well. It might take a while if indeed she does have developmental problems. However, that's no reason not to try at all, which it seems was his plan. It's really the dad more than anyone who needed to be confronted, because otherwise he'll be more or less responsible for the creation of a spoiled brat, autistic or not.

I have to agree at least in part with the OP about small children. When a beings's primary mode of communication is comprised of highly irritating and painful shrieking, and they are incapable of rational or coherent conversation, I can't say I find their company enjoyable at all. Damn, I wish little kids came with mute buttons sometimes....



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17 Sep 2008, 10:44 pm

Parents of autistic kids get "confronted" and have their kids called brats a LOT though. And most of the time, the kids aren't brats at all.

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sorry to put this question here, but I read it everywhere..what does OP mean????
Original Poster. The person who started the topic.


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18 Sep 2008, 1:06 am

lol i agree with the evil NTs part...but sadly we cannae eradicate em yet :twisted:



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18 Sep 2008, 1:12 am

lol is this topic still on?



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18 Sep 2008, 2:52 am

Spokane_Girl wrote:
Good thing she doesn't have any kids or never will I hope.


If this woman does not have children, BRILLIANT!! !! well done for sticking to what you feel! You go girl, you keep away from children, and you use contraception!! !! Dont you listen to anyone who would try and talk you into changing your ways!!
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However My AS husband was maybe not so bright?

this thread has given me an intesting insight into how my AS husband can not tollerate his AS son's screaching, and how my NT son irritates him because he is not like himself and his AS son...... how me as a NT could well be in hell its self, and no matter how many times I forgive him for throwing "rocks" at me, the truth is he should never have left his mother, and should never have had children, He should have stayed by himself. BUt for 52 years, he was missunderstood... but for 52 years a horrid mess has been made.

so Here is the problem with undiagnosed aspergers................

If any woman want to date my AS son, as they will for he is hansome like his father.......... I shall be taking them aside for a quiet word!! !! !! !! !! :lol:



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18 Sep 2008, 2:59 am

While I can appreciate the motivation, acting behind your son's back - even if you think you have his (and her) best interests in mind - is not acceptable to me. Your experience has been negative; it is not indicative of every ASD relationship, and for you to attempt to affect control over his life in such a manner is something that I find distasteful. There is a bitter taste when reading your words, a resentment, and it is challenging for me to understand.


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