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16 Sep 2008, 1:53 pm

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Not to be rude or anything but maybe your mother is tired of her ret*d son? ever think of that? respect your mother son. If it werent for her you'd be dead, coat hanger before you had the chance. And dont tell me you "wish you were dead" like an emo kid thats bu11zhit and you know it. So, where was i? Oh yea, dont even think about calling her ret*d in front of her face. tough love but somebody had to say it.


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Okay i reread your post and I stick to what I said. I'm not trying to make you upset but it's also not my problem if you get upset Im just telling it like it is. I got news for you bro life is ugly and hard and people suck, if you cant handle your mother you cant handle ANYBODY. look man there are 2 sides to every story and autistic or mentally insane it doesnt matter what you have YOU'RE LIVING UNDER HER ROOF(I assume no?) So you respect your mother, she calls you ret*d fine then give her some space be nice to your mother and SHE will come to her senses and realize if she's being a 4 letter word. Also do everything she asks of you(chores, favors ect) check it out, this is where it gets good, there IS a god and IF after you do all I said and she still calling you names(i doubt it) then your correct and you have better things coming to you. If all else fails and you feel like life sucks crack open a bible(if you dont like/cant read check out a nearby church).


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16 Sep 2008, 1:57 pm

Warsie wrote:
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Not to be rude or anything but maybe your mother is tired of her ret*d son? ever think of that? respect your mother son. If it werent for her you'd be dead, coat hanger before you had the chance. And dont tell me you "wish you were dead" like an emo kid thats bu11zhit and you know it. So, where was i? Oh yea, dont even think about calling her ret*d in front of her face. tough love but somebody had to say it.


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Mindovermatter you should stop and think before typing something like that to a kid who is having a tough time IRL. Try being a little less judgmental and a little more understanding, okay?



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16 Sep 2008, 1:58 pm

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I know not to EVER disrespect my mother ! !!


so it's okay for her to lie, contradict herself at the tip of a bottle and be abitch to you then, just becuse of some BS social biological relationship?


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16 Sep 2008, 2:05 pm

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is there a spell check on WP?
did you even know ive never had any english lessons what so ever?! its a wonder i can write english as good as this
and im from 1992 15 now grow 16 soon enough
what did you mean with opperating like an 8 years old?

If you see an underlined word, try right clicking on it, and it should give you a choice of words to use. What I meant by operating on an 8 year old level, was your lack of syntax when posting, sometimes your not making any sense, and its difficult to understand what your talking about.



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16 Sep 2008, 2:11 pm

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If you see an underlined word, try right clicking on it, and it should give you a choice of words to use. What I meant by operating on an 8 year old level, was your lack of syntax when posting, sometimes your not making any sense, and its difficult to understand what your talking about.


that's if he uses firefox. If he does not use firefox, it's less likely his browser has spell check built-in. As an add-on to that, due to him being flamed by some trolls here, he might be feeling bad and jittery. heavy flaming can get a person into that status sometimes, depending on conditions.


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16 Sep 2008, 3:46 pm

I'm sorry dude.. I feel really bad for you. :? Maybe your mom needs a lesson taught.. maybe you should treat her the same way she treats you.. let her know what it feels like to be unimportant.. or go out and say it.. say 'You're not important to me anymore'.. that will teach her. :evil:



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16 Sep 2008, 4:11 pm

Um, to the people who always claim mothers are good and will come around...uh, no.

My mom's freaking terrific, we have this great mutual respect thing going...but my dad, his mother has borderline personality disorder, amongst other problems, and she's one of those people who perpetually goes out of her way to make peoples' lives suck. Including his. He sends her warm letters all the time (even though it would probably just be best to get as far away from her as possible) and in response she spreads nasty rumors about him and insults his family. (According to her, by the way, it's his and my mothers' fault that I'm 'f****d up' like I am. :roll: Even though they're freakin amazing parents.) At least it's marginally better than his childhood, in which she beat him for being weird, but she still sucks.

I'm happy so many of you have had good mom experiences, but UndercoverAlien clearly has not. :( We all know there is bad parenting in the world. Also, let's not diss someone's grammar and spelling when they're going through trauma. I know we're supposed to lack empathy, but come on! :wink:

Brain hug...

EDIT: I sure hope all foster homes aren't bad - I got my little brother that way!


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16 Sep 2008, 4:15 pm

you're right, life sucks and so do our mothers. So lets all sit in a circle and discuss how much each others lives are terrible :roll:



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16 Sep 2008, 4:21 pm

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you're right, life sucks and so do our mothers. So lets all sit in a circle and discuss how much each others lives are terrible :roll:


If someone's having a problem I help them out. In fact, if you ever have a problem I'd be happy to help you out. But I consider it a virtue to care about others and their issues.

My postulation: Most mothers are good and have rational explanations for their actions, be it stress or whatever. In that case one should try to make the most of their situation and get along with their parents as best as possible. However, there are some cases where we can't tell whether or not it is genuinely this situation or one where the mother actually is malevolent.

It is silly to whine about every single thing, but I think it is good sometimes to share, and to support each other. I'm sure we can agree on that?

Oh, UndercoverAlien - you are a native dutch speaker, correct?


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16 Sep 2008, 5:34 pm

Mindovermatter wrote:
you're right, life sucks and so do our mothers. So lets all sit in a circle and discuss how much each others lives are terrible :roll:


Mindovermatter it's your attitude that sucks. You seem to be the type that won't let people have their feelings. Not everyone is perfect, is going to be happy all the time. It is fine to express unhappiness. It is fine to have the support of other people when you are unhappy. This goes double for younger people. I dealt with so many types like yourself as a kid and you are the types that did the most damage to me. You inflict psychological damage with your 'tough love' attitude and your intolerance of others.



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16 Sep 2008, 8:05 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Mindovermatter wrote:
you're right, life sucks and so do our mothers. So lets all sit in a circle and discuss how much each others lives are terrible :roll:


Mindovermatter it's your attitude that sucks. You seem to be the type that won't let people have their feelings. Not everyone is perfect, is going to be happy all the time. It is fine to express unhappiness. It is fine to have the support of other people when you are unhappy. This goes double for younger people. I dealt with so many types like yourself as a kid and you are the types that did the most damage to me. You inflict psychological damage with your 'tough love' attitude and your intolerance of others.

Yeah you make a point ana. I did not know I "inflict" psychological damage thats harsh. But I'm open to an eye opener if someone would go in depth on that.



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16 Sep 2008, 8:12 pm

I mean most of what I said is dead on(in my eyes). Life is hard and ahhh i dont know at least I know I should never be a therapist :oops:



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16 Sep 2008, 9:32 pm

I had lots of trouble from my dad. People told me to respect him because he was feeding me and giving me a roof over my head. He said it was more than I deserved and I should be grateful.

Eight years after moving out, I still don't respect him. I still think he mistreated me.

He may have been very stressed; he probably was, in fact. I wasn't a perfect child; in fact, I had tantrums, hated to do chores, and constantly drained flashlight batteries reading under the covers at night. I drove him crazy insisting that he not lie to my mother about smoking when he said he had quit. I even argued with him.

But the first time he hit me or called me a stupid brat, he should have known that there was a problem and done something about it. He didn't. He kept doing it. He had a choice.

He was not a good father. Period.

There is no shame in realizing: Sometimes, parents can be wrong. Sometimes they can be downright bad parents. If you can't get out, the only thing you can do then is to try to keep your self-respect, grow up with as much of your mind intact as you can manage, and get out on your own as soon as you can. I left home when I was 17 and have never looked back.


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16 Sep 2008, 10:11 pm

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I mean most of what I said is dead on(in my eyes). Life is hard and ahhh i dont know at least I know I should never be a therapist :oops:


Lol...I think you should be a therapist for whiny celebrities. I think sometimes the perspective you describe is correct, and that people like Hollywood-types would really benefit from the tough love.


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I had lots of trouble from my dad. People told me to respect him because he was feeding me and giving me a roof over my head. He said it was more than I deserved and I should be grateful.

Eight years after moving out, I still don't respect him. I still think he mistreated me.

He may have been very stressed; he probably was, in fact. I wasn't a perfect child; in fact, I had tantrums, hated to do chores, and constantly drained flashlight batteries reading under the covers at night. I drove him crazy insisting that he not lie to my mother about smoking when he said he had quit. I even argued with him.

But the first time he hit me or called me a stupid brat, he should have known that there was a problem and done something about it. He didn't. He kept doing it. He had a choice.

He was not a good father. Period.

There is no shame in realizing: Sometimes, parents can be wrong. Sometimes they can be downright bad parents. If you can't get out, the only thing you can do then is to try to keep your self-respect, grow up with as much of your mind intact as you can manage, and get out on your own as soon as you can. I left home when I was 17 and have never looked back.


Good on you, for taking control of your life like that.


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16 Sep 2008, 11:59 pm

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Yeah you make a point ana. I did not know I "inflict" psychological damage thats harsh. But I'm open to an eye opener if someone would go in depth on that.


If a person feels like s**t and is venting on the internet, getting flamed by 2-3 people or just one a**hole/douchebag heavily insulting him, his existence, calling him a liar, piece of s**t, etc can hurt. The person could even get into a shutdown from heavy flaming and feel like s**t (s**t turns black and white, you tune out of the rest of the world, your stomach is crawling, you feel jittery, you feel bad that you did something wrong, and you get obsessed over it sometimes.) One of the reasons I hate flaming is that, and other reasons is that I like people and try not to get pissed off at people. Some people are that sensitive, and it's not good to break them (inb4 HARDY HAR ITS THEIR FAULT THEYRE SENSITIVE. O RLY? People value sensitive things and treat them okay and when they break up they're faulted and it's deemed their fault, but when people are that way 'it's their fault'..lol)


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