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LePetitPrince
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07 Oct 2008, 1:16 pm

Ishmael wrote:
No, it's none of that crap. I've met enough stupid aspies to know it isn't true.
Merely a genetic observation - technically speaking, those with the Asperger mutation (further clarity pending research) do not qualify as homo sapiens sapiens. Early stages of divergance; essentially a repeat pattern of the homo sapiens-homo neanderthalis split. Early stages, remember.


**Evolutionist Autisnob detected**

Let's review my autisnob bible:


LePetitPrince wrote:
I made a thread about that http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt77122.html

You are touching a sensitive taboo on this forum.

Another ridiculous phenomena that you should understand about this community is what the user NeatHumain called it here "The Autisnob"

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt62769.html , this is my favorite thread ever because it truly talks about a huge majority of WP community.

Now how those threads are related?

I'll tell you why:

There are 2 main types of autisnobs:

-The Evolutionist autisnobs
-The Creationist autisnobs

-The evolutionist autisnobs(I am a extreme evolutionist btw) believe that Aspies are the beginning of a new evolved human subspecies who will be the next sentient human species after millions of years. There are even extreme evolutionist autisnobs who believe that Aspies are already a new different human species and they refer it sometimes to "homoaspie" or "homoasperger" ...something like that. And there was one or tow users who believe that the origin of Aspiness is the remaining genetic traits of the Neanderthals.

Disapproving these theories aren't hard due to the fact that Aspiness is not an advantageous evolutionary trait ...communication skills is the one the most important human skills nowadays and obsession and dedication don't compensate the lack of it since many people have obsessive traits anyways, according to some surveys most aspies die single. As for the other theory saying that Aspies are already new subspecies that's total scientific error, Aspies have the same chromosome and DNA structure of the homo sapien , people with Down Syndrome or Williams Syndrome can be scientifically seen as another human subspecies because they have a slightly modified set of chromosomes than other HomoSapiens(but that's not politically correct to say so) but aspies are 100% homosapiens and can procreate with any other HomoSapien.

Stats show that aspiness is not evolutionary advantageous nor naturally selected:
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Tantam wrote:
'the table below shows the social adjustment of 46 more able adults with autism known to have needed psychiatric help:'
No contact with a friend in last year: 70%
No sexual relationship for more than one month: 78%
Unemployed: 85%
Never Married: 98%
Resident in hospital or with parents 76%


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1% according to Tantam (the dude whose criteria is in the DSM-IV-TR)
some sources say 30%

the divorce rate is over 90% in many places.

(It's well under 0% for Autism.)


So asperger can't be a result of evolution. That's why those Evolutionist autisnobs refuse the possibility that autism might be caused by external factors because they want to believe that they are a special human subspecies.

- The Creationists' beliefs are generally amusing and funny ...the only group that can beat them in that field are the "The Creationist autisnobs" , those Creationist autisnobs are like Zionist Jews , they believe that they are mysteriously chosen by God to be created in a mysterious different way for a mysterious goal of a mysterious God's cause for the whole mankind . As like all Creationists , they say "God's ways are mysterious". I say: all this BS is a mysterious snobbish crap.

That's why those creationist autisnobs can't accept or even tolerate the possibility that their autism might be caused by any other external environmental factor because they believe that the only factor that made them so "unique" and "special" is God.
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You fit the evolutionist autisnob description 100%.


What you are talking about is very scientifically erroneous , recheck the scientific definition of a species before babbling such nonsense

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In biology, a species is one of the basic units of biological classification and a taxonomic rank. A species is often defined as a group of organisms capable of interbreeding and producing fertile offspring. While in many cases this definition is adequate, more precise or differing measures are often used, such as based on similarity of DNA or morphology. Presence of specific locally adapted traits may further subdivide species into subspecies.



Aspies and NTs are both homo sapien sapiens since they are capable to interbreed and produce fertile offspring.


ie. Donkeys and Horses are very related and very similar creatures and they share a common ancestor yet they are 2 different species , they can interbreed to produce a mule but mules are always infertile.

That scientific fact even destroys the theory of Homosapien sapien and neanderthals interbreeding theory.



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07 Oct 2008, 1:52 pm

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autism is highly heritable, i agree, but genes alone are not enough to explain pattrn of heritability.

in pairs of identical twins where one twin has autism, the other is affected only 60% of the time at most.



I was wondering ...what about the tourette?



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07 Oct 2008, 2:11 pm

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I remember copying a film character (Saavik, maybe) at that age by raising my eyebrows and turning my head sideways. I thought it meant paying attention. Turned out it means something like mild disbelief. The teacher yelled, "I didn't say raise your eyebrows, I said pay attention!" I didn't understand what I'd done wrong until I was 18 or 19 and told a friend about it, who explained.



Haha, yes! That brings back another memory. Around the same age I had a thing where i'd stick my tongue out and slightly to the side when 'concentrating'. I'm trying to recall where I picked this up from. It was almost definitely from TV. A teacher eventually told me to stop doing it. God, it seems so stupid now, though also comical. It looks like i've grown out of these things, or learned enough behavioral patterns from others to act normal most of the time.