I think Wrongplanet has lost its way

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i've only been here since august. it wasn't long before i got myself entangled in a PPR flame war. i learned real quick the necessity of abiding by the rules. some of the people on these boards continually incite flame wars without actually failing to abide by the rules. they are probably skating on thin ice and will eventually get themselves banned. a few months ago PPR was dominated by such types and there's been whining about them being banned. many aspies like to debate, as a whole we seem a very argumentative lot.

the mods are good and alex is more than fair. alex and the mods allow all sorts of controversial discussions even though they may feel such debates are a waste of space. pissing on the rules is not allowed. but heated discussions, in which the members can keep themselves within the boundaries of the rules, is generally acceptable. well that's been my experience anyway.

this is a very good forum and a great resource for those of us on the spectrum. i'm sure it's no easy task to make these boards run as smoothly as they do.

Last edited by alba on 13 Jan 2009, 6:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I would love to take credit for that, but I can't. I do like passing good, little nuggest of sarcasm when I find 'em though!

I didn't say there wasn't support. I'll happily listen to anyone's problems, if you make it quick But yeah, maybe we should just try and learn to discuss stuff without going over the top. Life's too short for petty arguments.

In the famous words of Rodney King "Can't we all just get along"?

do you know, I nearly put that quote in, but I didn't actually know who said it.

I sensed the vibes and just did it.

Exactly.

can someone please link me to the thread the OP mentioned? I would like to see it.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt87414.html

I think that some really do have it and just can't afford a psychiatrist to make it official. (Somebody just posted that to get officially dx'ed would cost her US$1300. Ouch!) But there are some who just act too NT to really have it. I really don't have anybody specific in mind, but every so often I see somebody acting in a totally NT way here, and sure enough they're self-dxed. I'm not saying that ALL self-dxed people here are lying, but some are, and they're acting NT in an AS forum and turning the place inside out.

I think that there IS a problem with NTs claiming to be AS, in the same way that some Native American tribes were besieged by the 5% crowds in the 70s. It's cool to be seen as oppressed, so people latch onto the coolest oppressed group. Most such people are teens and young adults (not saying all self-dxed youth here are wrong, but some self-dxed youth are) and are bitter and angry at the world, and want to blame somebody. So they latch onto 2 or 3 symptoms that might match and say they're aspie.

I think the reaction to the "who really has AS?" thread is symptomatic of people wanting to be activists rather than being truly aspie. We do need activists, but in truth advocates for the oppressed tend to be wealthy people who are bored. I noted this during my communist days-there were VERY few truly working class people in the clubs, most were privileged youth and old hippies from privileged families who decided that it would be cool to take up the cause of the "oppressed poor". When I DID speak up with the views of the workers, I was yelled at. They really didn't care about the workers, but about using workers as tools for power trips.

I think that some "aspie advocates" have the same issue. Aspies tend to be modest in public and unwilling to speak out because of their bitter experiences of being ostracized for speaking out, so inevitably the professional advocate class steps into the vacuum. We should beware of them. They would as soon cure us as help us, just as wealthy young communists ended up slaughtering craploads of real workers once in power. Lenin called his followers "useful idiots", and there are aspie advocates who feel the same way about us.

I think that was very well put.

Really? I though most of it was garbage.

Believe most people on the Autism spectrum at WP need a shot of reality/realism. People with autism can be just as big an A-hole then a non ASD(NT).

Be aware some people with autism do have comorbidity issues, whether they are seperate disorders or extensions of their autism is open for debate.

STOP shifting blame to non ASDs(NT) for the poor behaviour perpetrated by people with autism on WP. Individuals behave badly! Generalisations that the self dx AS(NTs in disguise) people here at WP are the culprits of all bad behaviour is small mindeness.

BTW... I find WP very tame in relation to abuse and insults directed personally at another member compared to other support type website forums.

Last edited by EvoVari on 13 Jan 2009, 10:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I have been to many forums and only this one has been the only one where you can have a discussion without someone throwing in a random insult.
If you want to see people having petty arguments you should check out the Soundwave Forum. They abuse people for fun and some people take it seriously. I know to not take what they say seriously or get into in depth discussions, of course there are no in depth discussions to begin with on that forum.

no point, I was on myspace forums day and night. Believe me, things get personal on there. It doesn't get any worse than them. It goes beyond teasing. I've been at war on them.

Me too. Even the help forum is full of people looking for a flame war.