Exposing the Aspergers Scam - read it and weep!

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melissa17b
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05 Feb 2009, 3:28 am

For just about every state of human existence that is (gasp) different from the narrow accepted norms handed down from centuries past, there is always a vociferous legion of detractors, usually taking the "ex-whatever" form. Ex-gay, ex-autistic, ex-transsexual, ex-whatever - these people are usually co-opted in cult-life fashion by very clever, stealth, predatory "leaders" whom they will often quote as demigods. If one steps back, it is not hard to see how this can happen - living with, or discovering that a loved one is a member of one of these totally not understood and despised minorities IS shocking, and in many cases, the is a genuine sense of loss to others. These people, vulnerable in their grieving, can easily entrench in their state of denial when fed this ex-whatever drivel by exploitative leaders. There seems to be a particular disproportionate representation in the American fundamentalist Christian crowd, resulting in oddly un-God-like behaviour, often manifested in hatred and judgment, by the very people who claim their lives are lived according the word of God. Strangely, all of these pure and holy leaders are highly visible, wealthy at the expense of the vulnerable, and all in all pretty screwed up themselves.

As a rule, I give people all the time they need to come around. Reasonable people eventually will, or will genuinely try. Many will be unable to overcome the prejudices instilled in them. There will always be unreasonable people. They are detrimental to my well-being, and I simply sever my relationships with them.

It is the troll and this "ex" business that is the scam, not the extensive, scientifically-backed community of autistic people who collectively add unimaginably to society.



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05 Feb 2009, 3:31 am

Holy... A lot of amusing reading, thanks for sharing this "article". :lol:
Sorry if we're not responding in the way you hoped. :D


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05 Feb 2009, 3:53 am

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"I do know that there are a number of incredibly negative threads- one with a kid claiming to kill himself with another participant encouraging him/her to do so. Apparently the "mods" of this site also encourage this behavior as the thread is continuing. I find it deeply disturbing."[/i]

Have you pm'ed a moderator about this thread?

That gets much quicker action as they monitor their PMs more than the getting mod attention thread, so for urgent action it's best to PM, you can check who is likely to be on soonest from one of the threads in the wrongplanet.netdiscussion sub-forum.



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05 Feb 2009, 4:10 am

:cry: oh dear.

Anyone know the link to this article? I can't see it for looking? :roll:



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05 Feb 2009, 4:36 am

I didn't read the whole original post, but, I read enough to know that it is nothing but crap, and posted only to cause pointless arguement. :thumbdown: :roll:


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05 Feb 2009, 4:53 am

Hey, lets all just say pointless stuff now because this thread ain't going anywhere...

AR** BUISCUITS...

Sorry. Got Tourettes... no really...


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05 Feb 2009, 4:57 am

Go fix your head.



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05 Feb 2009, 5:01 am

Who you saying that to? Me... or the original poster... If your saying it to me then yeah, I do need my head fixing... I'm insane... :(


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05 Feb 2009, 5:03 am

No, no, to the OP :wink:



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05 Feb 2009, 5:05 am

Oh ok. Yeah, might bang my head with a hammer some more then... :lol:


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05 Feb 2009, 5:33 am

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I was once diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome. But I have come to realize the realities of the situation: that is, Aspergers is an excuse for failure. I have come to realize the fraud that was perpetuated upon me and upon so many others. Hopefully I can educate you on the subject also.


Sounds like you lied you a$$ off to a bunch of doctors for attention and most likely benifits so you could sit on your a$$ and do what you wanted exactly as you describe. You don't suddenly become NT.

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However, the dark truth is that "aspies" are simply a different, more insidious species of narcissist - essentially the narcissist stripped of his Type A personality and pared down to the sniveling, whimpering loser core.


I run a successful business I built from the ground up and have worked my butt off my entire life to get there. No 'L' on my forehead mate (you must have been looking in a mirror).

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From all appearances from a disinterested outside observer, "aspies" seem very much to be a group of loser disaffected failures who rant and rail about the "unfairness" of a world which doesn't accord them the respect and "special attention" which they 'deserve' due to their "special condition." In other words, instead of playing the game like everyone else, they decide to go into a corner and pout and cry because they are incompetent at basic social skills which most normal people pick up as toddlers.


I'm not asking for help or in need of help. Having someone explain why I am the way I am and how to work around it was all the help I needed (Thank You Dr Attwood). Many others do need a bit of help from time to time. The only unfair thing is what I see around me, lying, cheating, dishonesty... and these are not from AS people. Only thing I deserve is alittle understanding and patience because I did't get your subtle body gestures and expressions (...well I didn't until I memorised a few books on what to look for and what it means).

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And why do these worthless pieces of human refuse lack said skills? All signs point to a fatal and fundamental narcissism of character which demands that the "aspie" be granted something for nothing, that the aspie need not acquire social skills, competence, education, or much of anything else because they are owed a living and a comfortable existence by the rest of society. It is much the same philosophy that moves the welfare loafer, the lazy bum, the homeless man looking for a handout.


I don't lack them, I just had to learn them by rote and repetition unlike your NT a$$.

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The aspie never really moves beyond infancy in a mental sense. The regulation and control of emotions which humans learn as a basic skill of socialization is either never imparted to them or, more often, a lesson which is willfully ignored by these dark souls. Therefore they are emotional and mental juveniles, never really entering adulthood in a meaningful sense as they age. Their entire lives are focused around the immediate gratification and fullfilment of their needs - central to which is the desire to be immediately loved and adored despite having nothing of substantive character and moral quality to show for it. Lack of this ego stroking leads to depression and bouts of narcissistic rage, which are of course the time honored means by which extremely immature people demonstrate their displeasure at not getting their way all the time.


Yeap! I still feel like a child! Do I want to grow up? NO! I like the way I am. My 'abilities' far outway being able to read your mood and body language. I can live with the tics and horrid sounds and smells and everything else.
Isn't fulfullment of needs and wants a basic human desire? Just because my needs and wants are not the same as yours, it doesn't make me any less human or adult. If anything my needs and wants are much simpler to gratify... and don't hurt anyone else in the process.

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It is claimed that the aspie desperately seeks friends and eventually a lover, but has no real knowledge of how to go about doing this. While this may be true, it is the end product of a life spent alienating people due to immature, ignorant, and ultimately bizarre behavior. In reality, most aspies seek out outside interaction because they require a constant source of narcissistic 'supply' by which to tell their sob stories and elicit pity. This self-evidently exploitative relationship is by its very nature short-lived, once the 'target' becomes wise to the game and thus ceases to function as a reliable source of supply. In this manner, relationships with asspies are almost always tenuous, shallow, brief, and fleeting.


Do I seek friends and companionship? Bloody oath I do, as does everyone. It's just the amount of it that varies. If a NT person has a social need the size of a bucket, mine is the size of a shot glass by comparison. Do I tell others I'm AS? No... they generally work it out for themselves I'm quite eccentric but don't know why.

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The aspie is incapable of forming friendships in the traditional sense; the life of an aspie is so self directed and focused that he entirely lacks the capacity to consider other people in any manner. In standard narcissist fashion, the aspie's self-centeredness is so great that he completely lacks the ability to consider other people's feelings and rights, or to emphasize with another party or anyone else outside himself. The aspie may be able to emphasize to the extent that the other person's travails parallel his own "struggles." However, that is the rough limit of aspie normality.


How can you know how somebody else feels when you can't feel it yourself? I'm not in their head, I don't know what they are thinking. They are sure as hell not going to tell me how they are feeling either.

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Because the aspie is unable to feel and act like a normal person, suffice it to say that the aspie, in a very real sense, is not fully human. Like psychopaths, thugs, narcissists, and other pathological personalities, the aspie may best be considered a form of subhuman scum, the existence of which is inimical to positive human pursuits and actions.


Subhuman? Now that's just plain nasty. Would be like me calling you sub-intelligent.

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However, unlike the aforementioned pathologies, in the end the aspie is his own worst enemy. Left to his own devices, the aspie is, like all narcissists, a fundamentally self-destructive individual, for which the greatest harm is ultimately inflicted upon himself due to the pathologies of his actions and his complete inability to function normally in society. Those unfortuates who encounter the aspie in his daily life are mildly harmed, but not to any extensive degree. In the end the aspie's wildest dreams are realized - life as a destitute, or homeless, or imprisoned.


Sorry, so wrong. I'm creative and take joy in creating. Do I want to take part in society as a whole? No way! Most of the NTs I've known lie to themselves and to others... and keep a straight face doing it and have no conscience or remorse in doing it. I relive over and over in my head everything that I feel I have done to inflict pain or hurt on another person. Unsettled until the situation is resolved.

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For the ultimate conceit of the aspie is that he knows, after all, that he is worthless human refuse, without an ounce of completed productive effort to his name. Aspies, unlike other narcissistic personalities, seem to possess some form of human conscience, and realize that justice demands that their utter worthlessness be exposed in some dramatic and unpleasant fashion in order to appease the dictates of morality. So like the other pathological personalities, his life course is a race to the bottom which ultimately ends in destitution, disappointment to self and family members, and productiveless failure.


I think you played the system mate, nothing else to it. You were never AS as you cannot know inside why it's different to a NT. The only real truth here is what were your motives?


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05 Feb 2009, 5:42 am

I'm not going to assume he doesn't have AS. He could have gone in denial or genuinely thinks he doesn't have it.



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05 Feb 2009, 5:51 am

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I'm not going to assume he doesn't have AS. He could have gone in denial or genuinely thinks he doesn't have it.


I only assume he is just plain stupid.



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05 Feb 2009, 5:53 am

Just someone who has discovered the world.

Then was told that the enlightened super vision was called Asperger's Syndrome.

I read around the blog, lots of problems and no answers.

We are fairly hopeless when it comes to all the world problems.

The only person you can change is yourself.

St. Benard Parish was a very isolated place. I think it was 1933 when the first road was built connecting it to the world. It was settled by Islanos, people brought from the Canary Islands by the Spanish after 1500. When the Spanish came they found a white people with an old written language, so old none could read it. They could be killed but not controlled, so the Spanish deported them to the New World.

After a few generations the Spansh gave up, they could not be changed.

As a culture they have shown classic autistic traits for a long time. Herds of horses and cattle were driven from Texas for the Islanos were known to have a very special connection to animals, and could train them better than anyone else.

Their Language, name, was Guanche, the Spanish forbid them to speak it, but it continued in songs, dances, and through south Amercia they are Gacho, who work with horses and cattle.

Leaving St Benard Parish causes them stress, they do not connect with the modern world.

An Asperger's level of autism is common in the culture, it works when they are together.

They are my best model of what a Asperger's community would be like.



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05 Feb 2009, 6:01 am

it is difficult for me to determine the nature of his post (OP).

he puts a lot of effort into crafting his words to have maximum effect, which shows a desire to make an impression.

he reminds me also of a type of person i see on that jerry springer show (inbred looking rednecks (like who drive old pick up trucks and smoke their corn cob pipes through missing teeth with their sisters by their side chanting KKK slogans etc)) . their words for the show are obviously scripted to arouse maximum contention among the audience.

i can not tell whether he is wanting to appear "brutal" to elicit admiration from people who like that kind of thing, or whether he really believes what he says.

he did obviously put some thought into his post, but he may be manic as i suspect from looking at his blog, so this post is possibly just another "babble spray" that they are prone to.

maybe he is a social thrill seeker.

i care not and i am off to see if there are any other threads that i have any idea about.



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05 Feb 2009, 6:05 am

*coughcough*TROLL*coughcough*
it's so obvious and that article is probably not serious anyway


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