Do you think that Elitism is a problem in the WP community?

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It's a support site to me, because it's the only place I can go where I don't feel like an outcast, a place where people actually understand what I'm going through.
I try to stay out of arguments because I'm a very oversensitive person and have been hurt even over the internet.
I once told someone I was autistic and they laughed at me (no one here, on another forum where trolls are bred).
I could have started a flame war with him and another person that thought autistic kids were brats, but I left it.
If I have to fight I use my knowledge not personal insults.

At first I thought Wimsi-cal was ballsy, but now I just think he's arrogant as well as self-centered. I think he should listen to what Gary is saying about autie's being thick skinned and not realising if they offended anyone. And I'm sure Gary understands that people with AS can be very emotional and often take things the wrong way or too personally.

I think it's time for a truce people.

This is just the internet, if you get flamed call the fire brigade (or in this case pm a mod). If that doesn't work, well, fires over the internet can burn out if you just ignore them.

I said it's a support site sometimes because I have seen instances of members supporting other members. On the other hand, I have seen instances where people experiencing difficulties connected to ASDs have been attacked. I can't say for sure if I could call it a support site.

Well, I'll confess..very often, I just tire of hearing constant complaints...usually it sounds like the same thing over and over again, y'know?

And I know this is gonna make me sound like the biggest douchebag in the world, cause I don't know how else to say it, but I really don't know how to react to people who sound less motivated than I. The thing is, most people seem to be, but all want the exact same level of success. It doesn't work that way.

I love the smell of napalm in the mornings......


as for success...depends how you perceive and define it.
the great material dream?

I love the smell of napalm in the mornings.

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As to the 'support' site thing I'm not to sure about that as I can't seem to find anything official that says WP is an Autism and Asperger's Support Site as some other forums claim to be. Maybe I haven't looked in the right boxes on the entrance page so point me in that direction as all I can find is reference to the discussion forum which is the way most of us treat the site. We're not looking for clinical or theraputic support form the site or the members.

I hear ya Garyww, I don't think WP makes an official support site claim but some people seem to be under the impression it is one
Itis to some extent, true, but we would be lying if we said it was a support site all the time. It would be a lie to say that all of the posts offer support to people with ASDs.

I was just PM'd that the OP of this thread may actually be somebody we all used to know under another user name who left for some reason a few weeks ago after being outed becasue of some gender issues but that's just a rumor and I am just passing along info that may be worthless and if so then I apologize to her.

You have a good point...so in that case, how can others really complain they haven't made it if they don't define their success the way I do?

I'm not saying my life is 100% perfect; don't get me wrong. But I've used my Autism to my advantage in most cases, and have a level of motivation in me matched only by a chosen few: Ronald Reagan, Rocky Balboa, Scrooge McDuck, and something tells me Richard Branson....

How were the characters you mentioned successful, as opposed to other people (including the two fictional ones?)

i'm completely disturbed by the prospect of someone happily equating their success and motivation with that of Ronald Reagan.

Now... if you were to have used Mickey Mouse in the "Through The Mirror" Merry Melody as an example, my summation of you would skyrocket.

all good and true autistics will undertand me there.

I understand, and no I don't judge you for it .

When someone posts something that annoys the heck out of me I try not to post in that thread. Even if it is driving me nuts not to.

Perhaps using the same tactic would work for you, maybe not but there's no harm in trying.
Either way its completely your choice .

There is a a basic human tendency to turn a disparity or deficit into a virtue. Such is life. To every man his own sh*t smells sweet.

ruveyn

All proper & due respect to your effort and hard work, but as far as controlling luck in some absolute fashion: BS. You're a child if you truly believe that. Giving your absolute all buys you a ticket, but there is no guarantee that that that ticket pays off, or that some sh*t won't happen to derail things. Not getting sick is a break. Not going broke due to medical bills at 25 is a break. Blessings not counted I'll bet. (And those things, in the big picture of what can happen in life, are nothing.)



That's rough, and no offense, but I've heard worse. (Again, that's not to minimize how much all that sucks.)



Count your blessings, if you can see them. They don't mean your hard work isn't important or that you "lucked out" and have it easy, or that you owe anybody any sympathy or empathy or favors or anything, but everybody has sh*t to deal with, and anyone who isn't born dead has breaks; but people, for the sh*t they have, don't always get the breaks they need to make it, or even survive, despite working to their absolute limits. Life is harsh and there are no promises; not even for hard work & sacrifice. Yes, some people are lazy, but to say that the sole reason people don't make it is because they don't try hard enough is fairy-tale thinking.

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No you are not incorrect, unfortunately there is a large delusional group of on this site that think Aspergers is the next level in human evolution (conveniently forgetting the fundamental need to procreate in order to pass on ones genes and the unhappy truth that the majority of us die single and without progeny)

The term NT is used in the main as an insult, why I do not know. There is a mistaken belief that the 'NT's' with their desire to be gregarious are the weird ones. Sorry "aspie' elitists we are the weird ones because we fail at this most important and fundamental human trait.

I get sick and tired of the uninformed populist anti "NT" rhetoric on this particular area of WP.

You lot go on and on about how great it is to be an "aspie" you make fallacious claims to great historical figures claiming them as 'one of our own'. I even read one idiot seriously stating that if we cured Aspergers then there would be no more inventions.

Aspergers is a mental disorder, it impairs our ability to socialise, maintain jobs, maintain longterm relationships, get along with families, etc etc. Yes some of us have high IQ's, personally NEWSFLASH many DONT. I would happily exchange my 30 points over average for the pill that allows me to function in a normal and acceptable manner in social situations.

Humans are designed to be gregarious animals a disorder that impairs this does not make us superior and in no way promotes us as the next stage in human evolution

High IQ or not, what certain others do not take into consideration are variables they might not be aware of. When people start comparing someone else's life to their own on a web site such as this one without even knowing much about the other person, it can cause the other person feelings of hopelessness and despair. They might think sheesh I feel worse after posting here than I did before I posted
What's the point of comparing your life to someone else's when you don't even know the whole story? It can cause people to become defensive.
When I see posts supporting individuals who attack other members...like I wrote before...how is this a support site again?
Have any of you considered that some of this stuff might actually cause someone to become depressed?

This isn't a support site. It is a discussion board and the two are very different. There are support sites out there for people who need clinical or theraputic support.