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05 Aug 2010, 2:57 am

When was the last time she contacted you?



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05 Aug 2010, 3:13 am

saturday morning i think. Haven't gotten any answers back since then except for her mom texting back to say she was asleep.

her mom doesn't answer anything on Adrienne's phone though, just basically sends small brief messages via text. So i sent her mom a letter in the mail asking her to call me so i could get her number. She may not read texts on or answer her daughter's phone, but hopefully she still reads her mail.
I sent that out a day or so ago. So she should be getting that before too long. Hopefully that'll get through to her.

i try calling a few times a day because i don't want to be annoying, but since saturday, not much luck. Every couple days there's a period where the calls just go straight to voicemail, and then the next day it starts going through again. I'm assuming this is because periodically the phone's battery dies and then they charge it again. Although Adrienne usually never let's it completely die, so i'm assuming her mom puts it on the charger when she notices it's dead, or Adrienne is simply so ill that she only notices it's dead only after the fact because she's hardly using it much lately.


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05 Aug 2010, 3:18 am

http://ahopeforadrienne.webs.com/donate.htm

Estimates for the plane expenses round-trip (Seattle to Indianapolis) are conservatively around $555 last time i checked on Travelocity without accounting for food, lodging, and other things. Hoping to at least be able to afford the plane ticket. But donations towards support for her family are always welcome too after the plane fare goal is met. I'd hear it's costing them roughly 2-4 thousand dollars collectively for the surgery and chemotherapy treatment.

Sean, you do realize that all that treatment plus hospital stay costs WAY more than a couple of grand? She's been in the hospital for over 2 weeks now.



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05 Aug 2010, 3:28 am

flyingkittycat wrote:
http://ahopeforadrienne.webs.com/donate.htm

Estimates for the plane expenses round-trip (Seattle to Indianapolis) are conservatively around $555 last time i checked on Travelocity without accounting for food, lodging, and other things. Hoping to at least be able to afford the plane ticket. But donations towards support for her family are always welcome too after the plane fare goal is met. I'd hear it's costing them roughly 2-4 thousand dollars collectively for the surgery and chemotherapy treatment.

Sean, you do realize that all that treatment plus hospital stay costs WAY more than a couple of grand? She's been in the hospital for over 2 weeks now.

i don't think she was including the hospital stay when she gave me that estimate. Might've just been an estimate for the procedure.

posted a few pages back, but anyways, medical costs are pretty much covered.
Unbeknown to me, her mom had a BF with good job.
i guess i just forgot to update that on the website as well; i'll edit it shortly.

So yeah, basically just saving for the trip at this point


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05 Aug 2010, 3:35 am

Seanmw wrote:
flyingkittycat wrote:
http://ahopeforadrienne.webs.com/donate.htm

Estimates for the plane expenses round-trip (Seattle to Indianapolis) are conservatively around $555 last time i checked on Travelocity without accounting for food, lodging, and other things. Hoping to at least be able to afford the plane ticket. But donations towards support for her family are always welcome too after the plane fare goal is met. I'd hear it's costing them roughly 2-4 thousand dollars collectively for the surgery and chemotherapy treatment.

Sean, you do realize that all that treatment plus hospital stay costs WAY more than a couple of grand? She's been in the hospital for over 2 weeks now.

i don't think she was including the hospital stay when she gave me that estimate. Might've just been an estimate for the procedure.

posted a few pages back, but anyways, medical costs are pretty much covered.
Unbeknown to me, her mom had a BF with good job.
i guess i just forgot to update that on the website as well; i'll edit it shortly.

So yeah, basically just saving for the trip at this point

In any case also i'm not sure if she had medical insurance or not. Medical insurance could've taken the cost down somewhat i imagine too.


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05 Aug 2010, 7:38 am

I can't think of any polite way of saying this, but I am concerned for your personal quality of life.

I do not think your relationship will work out. I do not think you have been given an honest account. I hope that you will spend the money you have raised on some life-affirming investment (perhaps a guitar and music lessons), learn from the experience, and post the songs you write for all to enjoy.



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05 Aug 2010, 8:27 am

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I do not think your relationship will work out. I do not think you have been given an honest account. I hope that you will spend the money you have raised on some life-affirming investment (perhaps a guitar and music lessons), learn from the experience, and post the songs you write for all to enjoy.


i want him to spend the money on only a method of transport to go and see what is going on.
i did not donate money to be reallocated to other things due to a defeatist retreat from hope.

if he finds out that it is an untrue story before he goes there, then, if he can not return the money to us, i think it would be good to invest it in the stock market on all the donors (and his) behalf. it would be interesting for everyone to post their ideas on business prospects and for votes to be taken on what stocks to buy, and if the money invested makes a profit, then we all have a share of the portfolio. i know that the return on such a small sum of money will be scant, but at least people could see that the money did not go to burgers and video rentals, and it would be a form of focal interest as people may check the value of the portfolio and discuss it. over time and with proper stewardship and some luck, it could grow to a reasonable amount and become a viable investment.

maybe that is a stupid idea, but i do not want the money i gave to be used for trivial and unrelated purposes.

i want him to get a ticket and go and see what is going on.
i will give a bit more if i see that everyone has dried up, because if all donations stop before he has the price of a ticket, then i will never know whether i gave to a futile cause.



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05 Aug 2010, 2:02 pm

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i did not donate money to be reallocated to other things due to a defeatist retreat from hope.


Your donation was a gift, and you have no call whatsoever on how that gift is used or abused; the recipient has no obligation to account for his expenditure.

I am concerned only for the emotional well-being of the original poster, not in pursuing this slow-train-crash entertainment to its obvious conclusion.



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05 Aug 2010, 2:21 pm

StuartN wrote:
b9 wrote:
i did not donate money to be reallocated to other things due to a defeatist retreat from hope.


Your donation was a gift, and you have no call whatsoever on how that gift is used or abused; the recipient has no obligation to account for his expenditure.

I am concerned only for the emotional well-being of the original poster, not in pursuing this slow-train-crash entertainment to its obvious conclusion.


people didnt pay for guitar lessons:/. theres nothing stopping him returning it if he doesnt take the trip?

i think he should go regardless- even if it is a lie hes unlikely to accept it without seeing concrete proof with his own eyes and 100% knowing for sure. otherwise his emotions will get in the way and he'll just keep making excuses and clinging to any tiny glimmer of hope she throws his way.



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05 Aug 2010, 6:28 pm

StuartN wrote:
b9 wrote:
i did not donate money to be reallocated to other things due to a defeatist retreat from hope.


Your donation was a gift, and you have no call whatsoever on how that gift is used or abused; the recipient has no obligation to account for his expenditure.

I am concerned only for the emotional well-being of the original poster, not in pursuing this slow-train-crash entertainment to its obvious conclusion.
Prolly will pursue it either way.
I have an obligation to. & besides, i have to see for myself, otherwise i'll prolly not be able to forgive myself, and will always be wondering...


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05 Aug 2010, 6:36 pm

also, i got a call from her early this morning.
I'd sent a text, & i guess her phone woke her, because she called, but she sounded horribly tired, and i couldn't understand some of what she was saying because at parts she wasn't speaking too clearly at parts. Anyways, didn't get to say much before she drifted off again. The last thing i was able to ask in the short time before the line went dead was if she'd gotten her mom's number for me. She answered something that sounded like a yes, but i couldn't hear it too clearly so i had to keep asking her what she'd said exactly, and after a few times more, the line went silent and she'd drifted off again. It was like 4:00AM over there though, so i'm just happy to have heard from her at all.


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06 Aug 2010, 12:31 am

b9 wrote:
i want him to spend the money on only a method of transport to go and see what is going on.
i did not donate money to be reallocated to other things due to a defeatist retreat from hope.


+1. Whether or not the relationship will work out, the money that we've donated is supposed to help them see each other in person. If these two care at all about each other, which it strongly appears that they do, the money will be well spent in this way. Besides, if the money went to something else like personal items, we'd never hear the end of it from the skeptic crowd that thinks this whole thing is a scam.

While the money and its use is out of my hands, it would be a bit disappointing for it to go toward a lesser cause as long as the trip is still an option. If for some reason the trip simply can't be done, however, I'm not wanting the money back. I feel like that wouldn't be right, either.



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06 Aug 2010, 4:46 am

Blasty wrote:
b9 wrote:
i want him to spend the money on only a method of transport to go and see what is going on.
i did not donate money to be reallocated to other things due to a defeatist retreat from hope.


+1. Whether or not the relationship will work out, the money that we've donated is supposed to help them see each other in person. If these two care at all about each other, which it strongly appears that they do, the money will be well spent in this way. Besides, if the money went to something else like personal items, we'd never hear the end of it from the skeptic crowd that thinks this whole thing is a scam.

While the money and its use is out of my hands, it would be a bit disappointing for it to go toward a lesser cause as long as the trip is still an option. If for some reason the trip simply can't be done, however, I'm not wanting the money back. I feel like that wouldn't be right, either.


+2

i intend to see this trip through either way. I've got to know for sure.
& if it is real, then i'll just be that much infinitely more thankful that i was able to be there to see her and be with her and take care of her and hold her and let her know that i love her and that i'm there for her...

at the moment though, i still feel like a total wreck, so i'm prolly going to try to get some sleep in a bit. It's about 2:45AM here.


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06 Aug 2010, 6:09 am

about 4:00AM
clocking out. G'night WP


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06 Aug 2010, 12:13 pm

Awesome, just f*****g awesome!
Just when i think life can't get any worse, after all this (and some other sh***y things that i haven't mentioned because it would've been off-topic)
i find out i'm being evicted for stupid reasons :evil:
Please someone, just kill me now...


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06 Aug 2010, 12:13 pm

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


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