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10 Sep 2010, 3:49 am

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I wonder if there's a (I don't know if I can really call it a conspiracy) to protect children from the real world for as long as possible.

Kids are to be surrounded by santised hyper-reality: theme parks, play areas, organised activities, saccharine kids shows for as long as possible. Especially if the creators of these environments can make money from the parents insecurities.

I wonder about those so called "soft play" areas. I wonder if these are the childhood equivalents of "padded cells".

I'm not saying that kids shouldn't be protected from dangers that they can't defend themselves against, but surely this is going a bit far?

What about going outside into nature?

It does come as a dreadful shock to realise that not everyone in the world has the caring demeanour of a cute cuddly teddy. Wishes don't always come true and people can't walk on clouds without falling right through.


This is one NT thing I don't understand: parental hypervigilance. They often will buy into anything if it claims to help their child and yes, corporations make tons of money off their worries, which I find exploitative and causes unneeded anxiety among parents.

Also, once one kid gets kidnapped in a huge city full of millions of children, the news runs all these vignettes about keeping kids safe as if there is a bad guy behind every corner just waiting to snatch their kids up. Also those parents who don't allow their kids outside to play at parks anymore because of predators. COME ON. if the parents just keep an eye on their child, things always turn out fine. What is more dangerous...the one in a billion chance of them being kidnapped, or them becoming obese, not to mention being fed horrible morals being parked by the TV. Overall, I'd say the latter.


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10 Sep 2010, 4:07 am

anneurysm wrote:
AmberEyes wrote:

I wonder if there's a (I don't know if I can really call it a conspiracy) to protect children from the real world for as long as possible.

Kids are to be surrounded by santised hyper-reality: theme parks, play areas, organised activities, saccharine kids shows for as long as possible. Especially if the creators of these environments can make money from the parents insecurities.

I wonder about those so called "soft play" areas. I wonder if these are the childhood equivalents of "padded cells".

I'm not saying that kids shouldn't be protected from dangers that they can't defend themselves against, but surely this is going a bit far?

What about going outside into nature?

It does come as a dreadful shock to realise that not everyone in the world has the caring demeanour of a cute cuddly teddy. Wishes don't always come true and people can't walk on clouds without falling right through.


This is one NT thing I don't understand: parental hypervigilance. They often will buy into anything if it claims to help their child and yes, corporations make tons of money off their worries, which I find exploitative and causes unneeded anxiety among parents.

Also, once one kid gets kidnapped in a huge city full of millions of children, the news runs all these vignettes about keeping kids safe as if there is a bad guy behind every corner just waiting to snatch their kids up. Also those parents who don't allow their kids outside to play at parks anymore because of predators. COME ON. if the parents just keep an eye on their child, things always turn out fine. What is more dangerous...the one in a billion chance of them being kidnapped, or them becoming obese, not to mention being fed horrible morals being parked by the TV. Overall, I'd say the latter.


funny you should mention this as just about ten years ago, I remember kids started Trick Or Treating in Malls because--get this: "there are so many child molestors and rapists out there today, that the risks are too high"

Um...WHAT?!

The child molestors and rapists are in the same numbers now as they've always been. the only difference is we know about them now, and we know where they are. Technically, I'd hazard a guess that wold make us safer now than we were back then, but apparently in their eyes: "what you don't know can't hurt you".

And another thought: if you're so afraid of these people going after your kids, go trick or treating with them.



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10 Sep 2010, 4:10 am

Cheese in a can.


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10 Sep 2010, 4:14 am

Why they act crazy and hyper and yet when you do its like its a totally different thing. I'm serious! I've had this happen before where if own my NT friends is hyper than its all kicks and giggles. Yet, if I'm hyper its all WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU. D: It's only happened a few times but still. I guess because I'm 21, maybe they expect me to act more like an adult?

That's also another thing I don't understand NTs. It's like, because I have multiple disabilities with my autism but don't know about them. They ask me how old I am, and I say 21. "SERIOUSLY I THOUGHT YOU WERE LIKE... 14 OR SOMETHING."

Other times, I've gone to wal-mart with my dad and I'll have my Axel plush. The cashier asked my why I wasn't in school and my dad says, "because she's 21" and the cashier is like, "...oh. o_o" It's like hgfghfjg WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE ANYWAY.

I don't mind NTs so much but sometimes they ask stupid things or act so ignorant too. D:


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10 Sep 2010, 4:21 am

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Cheese in a can.


cheese in a can rules! Sorta like ball in a cup ;)



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10 Sep 2010, 7:51 am

I have one question to everyone on here. To those who are complaining about things my question to you all is what would be a better solution?



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10 Sep 2010, 9:33 am

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Why do people push the TV remote control buttons harder when the batteries are going dead. Thats not how electricity works.


I do this. :oops: I do it with elevator buttons too.

The logical adult part of my brain knows this is illogical and useless. But somewhere buried deep in my memory is a weak little toddler who just didn't push the button hard enough.

I had a sudden epiphany of how this happened when my own daughter was a toddler and wanting to push the elevator buttons herself. (No flames please. I didn't let her do this when other people were also using the elevator.) She would push it very lightly and I would tell her "push harder" and she would try and try again until finally she pushed hard enough and it worked. When I saw her banging away at the button until she finally pushed it hard enough with her weak little toddler fingers, I suddenly realized where I and probably lots of people got this idea that you should keep banging away at a button. It was implanted in toddlerhood where it was actually relevent- for about 6 months. But none of us have managed to uninstall it even though our hands have been strong enough for a very long time.



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10 Sep 2010, 12:07 pm

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Francis wrote:

Why do people push the TV remote control buttons harder when the batteries are going dead. Thats not how electricity works.


I do this. :oops: I do it with elevator buttons too.

The logical adult part of my brain knows this is illogical and useless. But somewhere buried deep in my memory is a weak little toddler who just didn't push the button hard enough.

I had a sudden epiphany of how this happened when my own daughter was a toddler and wanting to push the elevator buttons herself. (No flames please. I didn't let her do this when other people were also using the elevator.) She would push it very lightly and I would tell her "push harder" and she would try and try again until finally she pushed hard enough and it worked. When I saw her banging away at the button until she finally pushed it hard enough with her weak little toddler fingers, I suddenly realized where I and probably lots of people got this idea that you should keep banging away at a button. It was implanted in toddlerhood where it was actually relevent- for about 6 months. But none of us have managed to uninstall it even though our hands have been strong enough for a very long time.


A similar one to these: - have you ever watched someone try to dry dishes with a wet tea-towel?


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11 Sep 2010, 3:53 am

The word "appropriate".

First off, who decides what's officially appropriate and what's not?

There's also this idea of "appropriate peer group".

Okay, does this mean that I should ignore everyone who isn't my own age, race and gender?

That sounds to me like a pretty restrictive, xenophobic way to live.
What about helping the younger generation or the elderly?
What about befriending people from other cultures?
Are they an appropriate peer group?

What about people who have different hobbies and interests?

I'm very sorry, but this kind of stuff makes me feel very confused.
On the one hand, I'm told to respect other cultures, but on the other I'm told not to talk to strangers and only talk to my "appropriate" peer group.

Should I feel guilty because I've befriended and helped people of other cultures and ages?

Oh silly me, I should've stuck with my "appropriate" peer group; laughed at the "appropriate" time and behaved in the "appropriate" fashion.

Oh dear. I mixed with different cliques and had many aquaintances. I should've been a good little girl and chatted with exactly the same "appropriate" people every single day *sarcasm*.

As for my "appropriate" peer group, I don't honestly think that I have one.



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28 Sep 2010, 12:49 pm

It doesn't matter how intelligent you are, what matters more is how ''social'' you are.
I just cannot make that one out with NTs. A person can be ret*d and can't read or write, and yet they can be the most popular person in town, just because they don't have trouble with communication.

Also, when I watch Supernanny, how come the older kids on there are NTs but have such neurological behaviour? Once there was a 13 year old girl who had loads of mates at school and seemed normal, then at home she threw tantrums like a toddler and kicked her legs, literally. I would understand it if they mentioned that the girl had Autism or something like that, but a 13 year old NT is supposed to be NT..... I acted better than that at the age of 10!

Also, how do NT strangers in the street detect if you have mental conditions or not when you're just walking about acting normal and wearing nice clothes?

And, one last thing, NTs seem to have more than 2 eyes, seriously. I mean, for example, say if someone was on a bus and her sister was walking on the pavement, they would immediately see eachother and wave, even if neither of them was expecting to see eachother or was even looking in eachother's direction.

But there is one thing what baffles me about Aspies (even though I'm one). How come Aspies don't like being touched or being too near anyone, yet when they're with someone they would stand right on top of them? (Not literally, but you know what I mean).


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28 Sep 2010, 1:10 pm

I can't understand...

Why women who are pushing a baby in a pushchair think they own the town

Why women would go through hell and high water to go to a clothes shop

Why women are in their absolute glory when in a clothes shop

Why today's fashion is mostly that cheaply-made material what hangs off women and, twenty years ago, would look like rags, and then they have the cheek to tell me that expensive designer clothes like Mackenzie ''aren't the fashion''

(OK, shut up - I'm a woman! LOL)

Why boys think that a girl wearing lots of fashion and jewelly and have a bit of make-up on and have that fancy hairstyle are the god's gift to them.

Why they all love tea and coffee

How they all know about celebs even if they don't read or hear about them, and when they see someone on the telly they will point and say, ''oh there's so-and-so'', when I don't even have a clue about any celebraties


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28 Sep 2010, 2:16 pm

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I do not understand the entertainment value of bullying.


I know! What is so entertaining about destroying one's fire or will to live, anyone? If you know the answer, please tell me!



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28 Sep 2010, 2:31 pm

Joe90 wrote:
It doesn't matter how intelligent you are, what matters more is how ''social'' you are.
I just cannot make that one out with NTs. A person can be ret*d and can't read or write, and yet they can be the most popular person in town, just because they don't have trouble with communication.]


You answered it yourself: because they don't have trouble with communication. It is easy to make a bond with somebody who easily reaches out to others. It is easy to find something to talk about with somebody who is at ease communicating. If that person is in fact mentally ret*d, there will be an element of patronization mixed in to the popularity.

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Also, when I watch Supernanny, how come the older kids on there are NTs but have such neurological behaviour? Once there was a 13 year old girl who had loads of mates at school and seemed normal, then at home she threw tantrums like a toddler and kicked her legs, literally. I would understand it if they mentioned that the girl had Autism or something like that, but a 13 year old NT is supposed to be NT..... I acted better than that at the age of 10!


Behavioral outliers get on reality shows. A reality show that had only completely ordinary children would be boring.

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Also, how do NT strangers in the street detect if you have mental conditions or not when you're just walking about acting normal and wearing nice clothes?


By a peculiar gate or facial expression.

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And, one last thing, NTs seem to have more than 2 eyes, seriously. I mean, for example, say if someone was on a bus and her sister was walking on the pavement, they would immediately see eachother and wave, even if neither of them was expecting to see eachother or was even looking in eachother's direction.


Peripheral vision



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29 Sep 2010, 3:08 am

Joe90 wrote:

Also, how do NT strangers in the street detect if you have mental conditions or not when you're just walking about acting normal and wearing nice clothes?



It's an aura of "positive vibes" that they give off, which we don't.

I'm under the honest belief that we Autistic folks have the overall charm and appeal of a child molester. It ain't our faults; them's just the cards we were dealt, but it would sure as hell explain a lot.

I also have come to realize a former friend of mine totally lied to me when she said charm was one of my positive traits, and the ladies would find it appealing. Surprisingly enough, I was sorta into her back then. Yeah, I'm totally not now. It's all good though...I'm in a relationship anyway :D



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29 Sep 2010, 4:54 am

Religion.


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Religion.


I understand political affiliation just as well.

It's all emotion-based scams to make people feel important. Cause otherwise they're...y'know...not.

to paraphrase Rosie O'Donnell from Exit to Eden "y'wanna feel important? paint my house"