26 May 2018, 3:10 pm
26 May 2018, 4:54 pm
goldfish21 wrote:
Well, that was a rude little dig.
Let me use a simpler example that maybe you'll be able to follow along with:
I have a headache.
I self administer medicine to treat it. (Acetaminophen)
My headache symptoms are alleviated.
I can tell this on my own.
I don't require confirmation from a Medical Doctor that my headache is now gone.
Headache returns 6 hours later.
I take more Acetaminophen.
My headache fades away again.
Once more, I don't need a doctor to tell me that the medicine worked to alleviate my symptoms.
Surprise surprise, the exact same thing happens when I administer medicine to myself to alleviate different symptoms of a different ailment. Symptoms exist, I take medicine that I know works to alleviate said symptoms, symptoms diminish. I don't need anyone else to tell my whether I'm feeling relief of my symptoms or not.
Oh, but there's scientific documentation that says Acetaminophen relieves headaches, you say. Guess what? There's scientific documentation that says healing the gut, probiotics, and even intestinal cleanses all relieve ASD symptoms. This study is a fantastic source of that info: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5408485/ And I am very optimistic about the work these & other medical doctors are doing to further this knowledge. They probably have all spent some time in Blue Space, too.
Like I already said, I have been on probiotics longer than you have, as prescribed by a medical expert in internal (gut) medicine - so I'm am not arguing against the use of probiotics.
Now the thing with an analgesic is that it might be treating the symptom but not addressing the cause. If headaches are due to a sinus condition for instance, an analgesic is not sinus medicine, it just masks the symptoms. So while the person has alleviated their symptoms, they still have a sinus problem. If they think their headaches are due to stress, they'll just keep taking the analgesic and try other stuff like meditation and feel better, but they still don't know what's actually wrong with them, they just believe they know.
So I am not arguing against the use of analgesics. I'm just saying a person is usually better off being diagnosed by an doctor, rather than diagnosing and treating themselves for what they believe they have.
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26 May 2018, 5:16 pm
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Well, that was a rude little dig.
Let me use a simpler example that maybe you'll be able to follow along with:
I have a headache.
I self administer medicine to treat it. (Acetaminophen)
My headache symptoms are alleviated.
I can tell this on my own.
I don't require confirmation from a Medical Doctor that my headache is now gone.
Headache returns 6 hours later.
I take more Acetaminophen.
My headache fades away again.
Once more, I don't need a doctor to tell me that the medicine worked to alleviate my symptoms.
Surprise surprise, the exact same thing happens when I administer medicine to myself to alleviate different symptoms of a different ailment. Symptoms exist, I take medicine that I know works to alleviate said symptoms, symptoms diminish. I don't need anyone else to tell my whether I'm feeling relief of my symptoms or not.
Oh, but there's scientific documentation that says Acetaminophen relieves headaches, you say. Guess what? There's scientific documentation that says healing the gut, probiotics, and even intestinal cleanses all relieve ASD symptoms. This study is a fantastic source of that info: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5408485/ And I am very optimistic about the work these & other medical doctors are doing to further this knowledge. They probably have all spent some time in Blue Space, too.
Like I already said, I have been on probiotics longer than you have, as prescribed by a medical expert in internal (gut) medicine - so I'm am not arguing against the use of probiotics.
Now the thing with an analgesic is that it might be treating the symptom but not addressing the cause. If headaches are due to a sinus condition for instance, an analgesic is not sinus medicine, it just masks the symptoms. So while the person has alleviated their symptoms, they still have a sinus problem. If they think their headaches are due to stress, they'll just keep taking the analgesic and try other stuff like meditation and feel better, but they still don't know what's actually wrong with them, they just believe they know.
So I am not arguing against the use of analgesics. I'm just saying a person is usually better off being diagnosed by an doctor, rather than diagnosing and treating themselves for what they believe they have.
You’re getting ever so close to not disbelieving me, but still not quite there.I don’t need a doctor to tell me what my experience of life is any more than someone with their face on fire needs a doctor to tell them that they’re a burn victim.
Why do you have such difficulty comprehending this?
If a doctor never told you you were autistic, would you be NT? Somehow I think you’d be just as autistic as you are..
Edit: And unless you’ve withheld a significant portion of information, you’re not utilizing probiotics as medicine directly to the organs they influence in the same manner that I am.
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for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.26 May 2018, 6:02 pm
goldfish21 wrote:
You’re getting ever so close to not disbelieving me, but still not quite there.I don’t need a doctor to tell me what my experience of life is any more than someone with their face on fire needs a doctor to tell them that they’re a burn victim.
Why do you have such difficulty comprehending this?
If a doctor never told you you were autistic, would you be NT? Somehow I think you’d be just as autistic as you are..
If my parents had decided to diagnose me themselves, they might have concluded that I was intellectually disabled or brain damaged or whatever instead of severely autistic. They might have studied the condition they thought I had extensively and done things that were actually helpful, but they still would not be addressing the actual problem.
What if the person who thought for sure they had burns actually had staphylococcal scalded skin syndrome (an illness characterised by red blistering skin that looks like a burn or scald)?
26 May 2018, 6:12 pm
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26 May 2018, 6:50 pm
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
You’re getting ever so close to not disbelieving me, but still not quite there.I don’t need a doctor to tell me what my experience of life is any more than someone with their face on fire needs a doctor to tell them that they’re a burn victim.
Why do you have such difficulty comprehending this?
If a doctor never told you you were autistic, would you be NT? Somehow I think you’d be just as autistic as you are..
If my parents had decided to diagnose me themselves, they might have concluded that I was intellectually disabled or brain damaged or whatever instead of severely autistic. They might have studied the condition they thought I had extensively and done things that were actually helpful, but they still would not be addressing the actual problem.
What if the person who thought for sure they had burns actually had staphylococcal scalded skin syndrome (an illness characterised by red blistering skin that looks like a burn or scald)?
Your parents were seeking a diagnosis for an obviously “different,” infant/young child.
Mine didn’t because I’m significantly higher functioning; Asperger’s Syndrome vs classic Autism.
It wouldn’t be until I was a nearly 30 year old man doing my own research and self discovery process that I would learn and realize my own diagnosis. I don’t need anyone to tell me what I know.
And I said “face on fire,” as in FLAMES, not some flesh eating bacterial infection that resembles chemical burns or whatever.
Your posts aren’t merely insulting to my intelligence and ability read, comprehend, and match my entire life’s experiences to textbooks on ASD, but they’re insulting to every other person here who knows their own diagnosis via self research & learning.
Edit: I was also born ~a decade before Dr. Hans Asperger’s work was even translated into English.
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for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.26 May 2018, 7:08 pm
26 May 2018, 7:49 pm
26 May 2018, 7:53 pm
kraftiekortie wrote:
I was at a nude beach when I found out the Son of Sam was caught.
I hope the news wasn't too exciting for you
26 May 2018, 7:56 pm
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26 May 2018, 8:09 pm
I was about 14 the first time I saw topless sunbathers on a beach , I could only tan my back
26 May 2018, 8:17 pm
26 May 2018, 8:24 pm
^ I will use that excuse next time I get accused of mentally undressing someone
27 May 2018, 9:53 am
