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25 Sep 2010, 4:41 pm

Maybe you can pay Mdyar with a poem or a shoulder to cry on or copyediting a piece of writing.


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25 Sep 2010, 4:46 pm

DandelionFireworks wrote:
Maybe you can pay Mdyar with a poem or a shoulder to cry on or copyediting a piece of writing.




Ha!! !....i've been told I write good poetry, but I beg to differ. I'm always embarassed by everything I write and writing tends to be an incredible source of frustration to me. I constantly edit everything (including my WP posts) i'm never happy 100% satisfied with anything I write. I might be better offering my shoulder to cry on as we'd both probably be dead by the time i'm satisfied with anything I write/edit on behalf of another person.

Anyway.....what were these dietary sources of choline you mentioned?



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25 Sep 2010, 4:50 pm

All I know is that they exist. Maybe you'll find something if you google it.


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25 Sep 2010, 5:19 pm

DandelionFireworks wrote:
All I know is that they exist. Maybe you'll find something if you google it.



Ok....I really didn't know there were food sources which contain significant amounts of choline. I will google it....thanks! :)



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25 Sep 2010, 7:04 pm

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Just in case you're interested, here is one thing I found at the USDA's agricultural research service site in regards dietary sources of choline. It seems like it would be quite easy to get one's adequate daily intake of choline merely by consuming enough of the listed foods which are rich in it. I'm not sure the AI would be the "therapeutic" amount necessary insofar as any improvements in memory are concerned however. I'm going to do more research since I can't imagine there aren't many other foods sources equally rich (if not more so) in choline.

For one example....eggs contain 251mg (per 100g of food) of choline according to the technnical abstract in this article. The AI of choline for males is estimated to be 550mg per day according to the US institute of medicine. Large eggs weigh approximately 50 grams and I believe most of that is the egg itself, not the shell. I'm not even sure if the weight of the shell is taken into consideration...but I believe it is. Thus...two large eggs alone per day would get the average male pretty close to his AI of choline. Not a bad source of protein either, but eggs are a problem for those with high LDL cholesterol. The remaining amount could be obtained very easily, but again, i'm not sure if the daily AI of choline would be enough to effect any substantial improvements in memory.


Anyway....here's the article and i've already saved it to favorites:



"Title: USDA Database for the Choline Content of Common Foods


Authors

Howe, Juliette
Williams, Juhi - JOHNS HOPKINS UNIV
Holden, Joanne
Zeisel, Steven - UNIV NORTH CAROLINA
Mar, Mei-Heng - UNIV NORTH CAROLINA


Submitted to: Home Page
Publication Type: Other
Publication Acceptance Date: March 4, 2004
Publication Date: March 4, 2004
Publisher's URL: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp
Citation: Howe, J.C., Williams, J., Holden, J.M., Zeisel, S.H., Mar, M. 2004. Usda database for the choline content of common foods. Home Page. Available: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp.

Interpretive Summary: Human beings have a requirement for choline. Choline is needed for the synthesis of phospholipids in cell membranes, for methyl metabolism, and for the synthesis of the neurotransmitter, acetylcholine. Betaine, a derivative of choline, is important for its role in the donation of methyl groups used in the conversion of homocysteine to methionine and for its folate sparing effect. The US Institute of Medicine has estimated an Adequate Intake (AI) of choline at 550 mg per day for men and 425 mg per day for women. About 1% of the US population suffer from a genetic defect which results in an adverse choline side effect - fishy body odor. Restricting choline intake for this group could lead to a reduction in body odor. However, few data are available on the choline content of foods, which is needed to calculate dietary intake levels. The objective of this study was to determine the choline content of a nationally representative sampling of common foods in order to develop a database for electronic release on the USDA Nutrient Data Laboratory's web site (http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp). Food samples of all types were obtained from 12 - 24 nationwide retail outlets using a national sampling plan developed for the National Food and Nutrient Analysis Program (Pehrsson, P. et al. J. Food Comp. Anal. 13:379,2000) and prepared for choline analysis. Various cooking methods were used as appropriate. Samples were analyzed for betaine and choline-contributing compounds (free choline, glycerophosphocholine, phosphocholine, phosphatidylcholine, and sphingomyelin) using liquid chromatography-electrospray ionization-isotope dilution mass spectrometry; total choline was calculated as the sum of the choline metabolites excluding betaine. Choline values for over 400 foods are presented. This database represents the first report of choline content for most of these foods. Foods found to provide a significant amount of choline (per100g food) include: eggs (251), wheat germ (152 mg), bacon (125 mg), dried soybeans (116 mg), pork (103 mg), cod (83 mg), beef (80 mg), chicken (70 mg), and salmon (65 mg). The establishment of a choline database, available electronically on the web, provides researchers and consumers with the means to estimate choline intake and to assess related biological effects in humans. Such information will also be used by government agencies for making public policy related to nutrition and health in the US, food fortification, and entitlement programs such as WIC, school lunch, and food stamps.
Technical Abstract: Human beings have a requirement for choline. Choline is needed for the synthesis of phospholipids in cell membranes, for methyl metabolism, acetylcholine synthesis and cholinergic neurotransmission. Betaine, a derivative of choline, is important for its role in the donation of methyl groups used in the conversion of homocysteine to methionine and for its folate sparing effect. About 1% of the US population suffer from a genetic defect of the flavin-containing monooxygenase 3 gene, which results in a cholinergic side effect of fishy body odor. Restricting choline intake for this group could lead to a reduction in body odor. The US Institute of Medicine has estimated an Adequate Intake (AI) of choline at 550 mg per day for men and 425 mg per day for women. However, few data are available on the choline content of foods, which is needed to calculate dietary intake levels. The objective of this study was to determine the choline content of a nationally representative sampling of common foods in order to develop a database for electronic release on the USDA Nutrient Data Laboratory's web site (http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp). Food samples of all types were obtained from 12 - 24 nationwide retail outlets in accordance with the national sampling plan developed for the National Food and Nutrient Analysis Program (Pehrsson, P. et al. J. Food Comp. Anal. 13:379,2000) and prepared for analysis. Various cooking methods were used as appropriate. Samples were analyzed for betaine and choline-contributing compounds (free choline, glycerophosphocholine, phosphocholine, phosphatidylcholine, and sphingomyelin) using liquid chromatography-electrospray ionization-isotope dilution mass spectrometry; total choline was calculated as the sum of the choline metabolites excluding betaine. Choline and betaine values for over 400 foods are presented. This database represents the first report of choline content for most of these foods. Foods found to provide a significant amount of choline (per100g food) include: eggs (251), wheat germ (152 mg), bacon (125 mg), dried soybeans (116 mg), pork (103 mg), cod (83 mg), beef (80 mg), chicken (70 mg), and salmon (65 mg). Foods providing high levels of betaine include: wheat bran (1339mg), wheat germ (1241 mg), spinach (645 mg), pretzels (237 mg), shrimp (218 mg), wheat bread (201 mg), wheat crackers (199 mg), cooked beets (157mg) and pasta (90 mg). The establishment of a choline database, available electronically on the web, provides researchers and consumers with the means to estimate choline intakeand to assess related biological effects in humans. Such information will be used by government agencies for making public policy related to nutrition and health in the US, food fortification, and entitlement programs such as WIC, school lunch, and food stamps.




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Holden, Joanne
Exler, Jacob - Jake
Haytowitz, David
Lemar, Linda
Pehrsson, Pamela
Gebhardt, Susan







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25 Sep 2010, 7:55 pm

Ah, cool. :D


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25 Sep 2010, 8:25 pm

DandelionFireworks wrote:
Ah, cool. :D





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