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Would you support an autistic town or city?
Yes, and I'd move there 24%  24%  [ 19 ]
Yes, but I wouldn't move there because I don't have the means 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Yes, but I wouldn't move there for some other reason 10%  10%  [ 8 ]
Yes, and I'd become very involved in it 6%  6%  [ 5 ]
I'd have to see the specifics of the city 15%  15%  [ 12 ]
I'd have to see who's running it 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I'd have to think about it 5%  5%  [ 4 ]
I'd have to see if it's working out 6%  6%  [ 5 ]
No 30%  30%  [ 24 ]
Obligatory other option 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 79

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03 Feb 2011, 9:24 am

It would be nice if you added your 2¢ here.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt150704.html



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03 Feb 2011, 11:40 am

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Can't write a long message b/c typing with 3 fingers, but yes, I would probably live there and get involved in it, too.

And you are using two others for counting since you are a mathgirl, just kidding ;).



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03 Feb 2011, 11:45 am

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That is my point

Serigation took years to turn around for african american people, why would you want to self serigate. We are not the ones with the problem, other people are just over sensitive. You act kind of childish so I can act or talk down to you. I am stronger then you or whatever. Ithink it is a better idea to use your down as a prison where you lock people up who think it is okat to insult or take advantage of people over things they cannot control.


Do you like to be alone? Do you like time to relax by yourself in your own room?

Would you like someone to lock you in a cell and then leave?

Are your answers to those questions different?

Essentially, with blacks, people forced them to stay out of places, and made them stay in places that were inferior to the places to which whites had access. They weren't allowed to go where whites could. That was a prison.

What's being proposed here is that we create someplace that that is NOT inferior, someplace where we are not required to go or stay. This is intended as a refuge.

The difference between a sanctuary and a prison is which side of the door the lock is on. Think about that.

I agree with DF. There is fundamental difference between segregation due to race as a part of discrimination and few autistics wanting to live separately. In fact even if blacks wanted to have their own county that would not be discrimination. The point is that segregation of blacks involved segregation from good facilities while living among whites who could use those. This segregation while living together. What the OP has said is quite different. In fact autistics get bullied and tortured while living with NTs and often get discriminated against, so this becomes a real segregation :!: DF I would like to move in a locality should you decide first :wink:



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04 Feb 2011, 4:08 pm

related: Asperger Informatik AG
company with aspie employer and employees
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt150853.html



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04 Feb 2011, 4:51 pm

I haven't selected a vote in the poll. I may or may not vote---because I am already established in life with a family and a home in a community I have lived in all my life. It is what I am used to. But...the idea for this town in my opinion is a good one.

I started to look at the responses, and it seems there are strong conflicting views for and against the idea---as it usual to debate views in forums like this. Then, I looked at no more responses because they will not influence my opinion on the OP's idea.

I will compare this theoretical autistic town to a town not so far from where I live. This town is Yellow Springs, Ohio. It is different from other towns. It is full of very liberal free-thinking individuals that are very much into artsy crafty things and very interesting cultural concepts. Although the majority of people in this town are like this, there are a few who are not. This would be like the autistic town---not shutting out the NTs, but definitely more adapted to the autistic---where Yellow Springs is more adapted to the free-thinkers. Yellow Springs is not a prison for the free-thinkers---they are very happy and at home in this town. They made the town. They wanted the town. They are the town. And the autistic town would be the same way. The autistics would be the town.

If I were not involved with my family---which is my first choice in my life, I would make this theoretical autistic town a definite option for me. I see no harm with it.

Just as a trivia note, Yellow Springs is home to Antioch college where Rod Serling (Twilight Zone and Night Gallery) went to college.


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04 Feb 2011, 6:26 pm

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Certainly not. It would be separating people from society for merely have a disorder. Frankly, I consider it to be a ludicrous concept.


Frankly, I would gladly separate much of society from my environment. And if you are generally excluded why NOT separate? Society would not care in the least.

Got to ask - what is the ship? I cannot make out detail, does not quitehave the look of a Cunarder.



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04 Feb 2011, 6:27 pm

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Simple question: Would you support a town run by autistics where 80% or more of the people are autistic or parents/spouses of autistics?

Naturally, neurotypicals wouldn't be excluded from living there, but those that aren't autistic or living with autistics would be discouraged from moving there and there would be incentives for autistics to move there (aside from almost guaranteed employment).


Wouldn't support segregation, but otherwise I do like the concept.



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04 Feb 2011, 7:19 pm

I agree with you Dr Horrible, I wouldn't support segregation either.


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04 Feb 2011, 7:29 pm

Please read what I wrote earlier

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The point is that segregation of blacks involved segregation from good facilities while living among whites who could use those. This segregation while living together. What the OP has said is quite different. In fact autistics get bullied and tortured while living with NTs and often get discriminated against, so this becomes a real segregation



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31 Jul 2011, 9:07 am

I can't decide. I wish I could say yes because I'd love to move there, but I'm wondering if it's kind of unfair to NTs.

I'd really want to move there because I wouldn't feel so different.

By the way, this would be what its culture would be like:
Do whatever you want, basically (Aspies act very different from each other.)



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31 Jul 2011, 10:04 am

As Glider18 mentioned before, there are already "special interest" communities like this in existence. There are a couple near where I live in Kentucky. One is an equestrian community, one is an integrated town (commercial and all different kinds of residential buildings mixed in the same area; shops and storefronts with apartments over them next to single family homes- it's cool because if you wanted or needed to, you could work, shop, and live in the same neighborhood, everything in walking distance.) No one is excluded, but the communities are focused toward people with a common interest and most people not sharing this interest would simply not be interested in living there. The communities are not so large that they would encourage complete separatism- they just offer a nice retreat into a comfort zone of people interested in the same concept of community. Obviously, not all auties/aspies are of the same mind or interests. But I can see a lot of value in living in a community with a greater understanding of the difficulties of a condition that affects the majority of it's residents, as well as offering features that appeal to some of the more wide-spread interests.



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31 Jul 2011, 2:00 pm

I'm more of a neurodiversity type, so I voted no. I think being around neurotypicals can be helpful to an Aspie.

If this were implemented, it should be a simple decision to locate there. There should be no extra incentives for Aspies or disincentives for NTs. Wishing to be close to other Aspies would have to be enough.

I can imagine all kinds of positive things that might be done in such an environment. On the other hand, I don't think disagreements would disappear. For example, we could remove music in shops to help people from overloading. Then, others might protest because they need music in clothes shops. I think it would be difficult to fix all these issues.



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31 Jul 2011, 5:17 pm

I'd support it but I wouldn't be able to move there. I wouldn't be able to afford it.


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31 Jul 2011, 5:22 pm

The concept means well, but I'm afraid the reality may be different in a bad way.


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31 Jul 2011, 5:33 pm

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Would you support an autistic town or city?


If there was one I start packing my box's and move there like now......


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31 Jul 2011, 6:11 pm

Gay people have done this several times over. Copy their methodology. They don't plan it beforehand. They just move to a place where there are already other gay people. It snowballs from there. So....pick a town/city that seems to already have Aspie-ish people and move there. Some parts of Silicon Valley ion California are already like this.