We Have Facial Similarities
Also, the fact that I have mild faceblindness does not help.
Can you give an example of these mannerisms?
Oh no!, I think I just talked myself into a corner. This is all stereotypical BTW, yes I know there are a lot of exceptions,
1. Lack of "proper" eye contact
2. Atypical language usage: different prosody, "overly formal" (compared with others), refreshingly pedantic (unlike the vague speak that NT people often do), sometimes monotone
3. Clear literal speech (unlike the vague confusing language of some NTs)
4. Atypical styles of walking. For example, I walk "way too fast". Hey it is not my fault you can't keep up.
5. In-depth conversations, instead of superficial smalltalk.
6. Don't have that cookie-cutter "normal" look, often have a unique style
perhaps others and I do not consider these defects. I do all of this. My point is aspies often look different and this can sometimes be seen on a video, but I don't think that anyone can tell with a photo alone.
I actually asked you because my near psyc exam I have "Idio syncratic mannerisms and I am not sure what she meant by that was hopping to get some ideas of what she ment
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I have heard that term before, but since you used it. What are "dead eyes"?
I don't like the term because it implies that there's nothing going on behind them, when in fact there's probably more going on behind them than with normal people. I can sort of see it in other people (unless I'm just projecting it onto them). I can feel it when I have it if I pay attention to it: my eyes are open but not looking at anything that exists in the "real" world, so I suppose it looks like a vacant stare. But like I said, it's not really vacant, or dead; it's just focused on another realm.
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I have heard that term before, but since you used it. What are "dead eyes"?
I don't like the term because it implies that there's nothing going on behind them, when in fact there's probably more going on behind them than with normal people. I can sort of see it in other people (unless I'm just projecting it onto them). I can feel it when I have it if I pay attention to it: my eyes are open but not looking at anything that exists in the "real" world, so I suppose it looks like a vacant stare. But like I said, it's not really vacant, or dead; it's just focused on another realm.
One of the comments I heard regarding the performance of the guy who played the guy who started facebook is that he got the "stare" correct.
Its how one looks when the inner workings of the brain are distracting one from the outter workings of the world. Someone in the world can see that the person is not noticing the world and their vision is internal. "Dead eyes" does not make sense as a descriptive term.
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I feel too, after some time of thinking. I have a sensitive soul, and a delicate self-esteem, that I do not have a full control over. I can see the point that most of us have facial similarities, I think I'm no exception. I have large oval head and strong jaws, my eyes have the mentioned characteristics. Maybe I will put up some childhood pictures at the weekend. This research should go scientifically.
Also, the fact that I have mild faceblindness does not help.
Can you give an example of these mannerisms?
Oh no!, I think I just talked myself into a corner. This is all stereotypical BTW, yes I know there are a lot of exceptions,
1. Lack of "proper" eye contact
2. Atypical language usage: different prosody, "overly formal" (compared with others), refreshingly pedantic (unlike the vague speak that NT people often do), sometimes monotone
3. Clear literal speech (unlike the vague confusing language of some NTs)
4. Atypical styles of walking. For example, I walk "way too fast". Hey it is not my fault you can't keep up.
5. In-depth conversations, instead of superficial smalltalk.
6. Don't have that cookie-cutter "normal" look, often have a unique style
perhaps others and I do not consider these defects. I do all of this. My point is aspies often look different and this can sometimes be seen on a video, but I don't think that anyone can tell with a photo alone.
I actually asked you because my near psyc exam I have "Idio syncratic mannerisms and I am not sure what she meant by that was hopping to get some ideas of what she ment
Did you look at the wikipedia page for aspergers. This is pretty standard stuff. I just tried to word it a little less derogatorily, since I don't like my traits called "deficits" all of the time.
I am 21 (believe it or not), but I don't look it at all. I'm diagnosed as Aspergers.
Here's a picture of me with my cat that I took today to put on facebook:
Here's a picture taken of me, Cyndi Lauper, and my boyfriend. I'm not sure if my boyfriend is Aspergers or not, but I know Cyn isn't!
-Mallory
The problem is... whatever it is, doesn't always mean the person doesn't notice the world around them. I am frequently seen as having a 'vacant stare' or whatever. And most of the time when I do, it's not because I'm unaware of the outside world. I get everything from people waving their hands in my face, to at the other extreme, kids at my first high school used to jump up and down on top of my hands to try to see if they could get a response out of me. At one point a guy even... well I won't go into the details, but he did something sexual to me thinking that I wouldn't understand at the time (as if that made it okay). (And that's besides the people who've waved their private parts in my face to try to get a response.) I don't really even know when I look like that, and it doesn't necessarily signify a lot about my kind or level of awareness. Sometimes those times are the times I'm most aware of my surroundings. But whatever it is is extreme enough that lots of people think I don't know what's going on in front of me. Or they think I'm profoundly intellectually disabled. Or a lot of other things.
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My features are similar to gliders. The again, glider, I agree! You look normal. Almost ALL of you do. I look normal also.
As for downs people, they have a genetic abnormality that gives them ODD characteristics that are practically IDENTICAL! If AS people could be detected by having copper colored hair, it wouldn't been too noticable because it is too close to blond, and people often color their hair in a similar way. Downs people, on the other hand are like people with green braids! It REALLY stands out because it is SO unusual.
BTW about 1/2 of you aren't really smiling and a few others look forced. I don't really smile either. And as for the setting of eyes, mine are like gliders.
No, the problem is that you were not treated with respect. Whether you had a "vacant stare" or were unresponsive or if someone mistakenly thought you were "profoundly intellectually disabled" does not excuse them for not respecting you. Waving hands in front of someone's face is just rude, no matter what! I also read you were assaulted! Please tell me if someone dares do that again you report them. It sickens me that someone would do that to you.
You deserve respect regardless of any perceived or real problems you have.
I have to agree with Jackbus here and the fact they did that to you BECAUSE they thought you looked vacant or intellectually challenged makes it a lot worse, disgusting and upsetting! They really should have been reported or something. People are so terrible to each other. If that happens again report it.
No, the problem is that you were not treated with respect. Whether you had a "vacant stare" or were unresponsive or if someone mistakenly thought you were "profoundly intellectually disabled" does not excuse them for not respecting you. Waving hands in front of someone's face is just rude, no matter what! I also read you were assaulted! Please tell me if someone dares do that again you report them. It sickens me that someone would do that to you.
You deserve respect regardless of any perceived or real problems you have.
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You deserve respect regardless of any perceived or real problems you have.
Amen!! !! !!
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