Should persons with Asperger's consume Cannabis?

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27 Feb 2011, 2:40 am

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I like my taxe and SERVICESSSS high. In Quebec, I can get the choice of my psychiatrist for FREE. I can have health care for FREE. I can do a master degree in the top 3 Engineering University in Canada without the need to work 40hours a week or having to ask 100 000$ from the banks even if I'm not in the top 5 student of my class. We have the lowest price for electricity, we enable everyone access to a minimum of education. We give health care to homeless, we can give them a second chance in life if they are up to help a little bit themselves.

We have the liberty to use cannabis because it has proven for it's good property on human health. It might sound arrogant, but I always believed that socialist or culture that give more importance on social help rather than industry help are much more advanced society than conservative society. Still we manage to have advanced industry, our medical student, engineer, artist, are praised by many. In fact we have a problem of "Brain exode". That mean that people from around the world come here in our university at lower cost and higher quality and go away in USA to get paid much more. I don't see it in a bad way, because I believe in free information.

Please, I don't want to get unleashed on that subject, I can go on for hours! I think that capitalism kills human kind!

Government should do what they are asked to by the population and what's in the best interest for their civilian, not their industries who just kills personnality... It so much weird to see how individualism leads to the loss of individual personnality. It gives people the need to invent a life rather than living their own... Reality TV (or garbage TV) is a proof of what I'm saying!! !

So back to the subject, I'm surprised to see that so many people here are in favor of cannabis usage. I think it's on a way to a larger acceptance in many other culture. I hope USA and other conservative country will see the benefits for human health, and good for many development/innovation

Thats actually a good point. If a government can provide services efficiently and fairly, I don't mind paying for it. Our federal government however is anything but lean and efficient. We're just too big a nation for it to work here. At least on a federal level.

Some of our states have done well with health care. Hawaii for example has free health care. Personally I think we'd do well to shift more powers to the states. State programs are just more efficient then federal ones. (At the very least, people could leave states that aren't run well easier then they could leave a whole country)

Either way tho, I don't want a government who spends my money on unnecessary controls.

(Also to be fair, Canada has pretty much side stepped the need to have a large military by being our best friend. It means you can spend that money on domestic programs. You're not even on the chart : http://www.economist.com/node/13808801)

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27 Feb 2011, 2:56 am

A point I would had ducky is that Quebec and Canada have a great difference in our view on many subject. For example, Canada got a bad reputation when it comes to environment, when Quebec has showed many innovation and we have shown one of the highest improvement in pollution production. A majority of quebecer prefer to distinguish ourselves from the canadian culture and we'd be against many of the US politics. We where so happy to see Obama elected and for my part, the health care plan is a step forward for the american population. Happy people makes as a much better production efficiency, so when you take care of your people, you take care of your economy!! !

Many country would benefit from any improvement in cannabis research. Something that can grow easily on any soil and come back year after year. Wouldn't that help poor country with their health, clothing, replace petrol dependance by making ethanol from hemp, ...

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27 Feb 2011, 3:38 am

Nt people are social robots who fear thinking themselves. That means that probably 90% of all pot smokers do it because of peer pressure.

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27 Feb 2011, 3:50 am

Lonermutant wrote:

Nt people are social robots who fear thinking themselves. That means that probably 90% of all pot smokers do it because of peer pressure.

So you would be claiming that 90% of pot smokers are NTs that only smoke it to be cool while disreagarding the people who are prescribed medical marijuana, people who self medicate with it, people who smoke because they just like getting high?

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27 Feb 2011, 4:34 am

Sweetleaf wrote:

Lonermutant wrote:

Nt people are social robots who fear thinking themselves. That means that probably 90% of all pot smokers do it because of peer pressure.

The people who do it "just to get high" are the robots. They really do it because everyone else is. I also believe that the medical thing is a fad. There are tons of medications that work as well, but people insist on being "counter-culture" and use pot just to piss off the authorities. The medical thing is just a facade. The people who self-medicate should try actual medications, but they are probably too counter-culture or "cool" to do it.

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27 Feb 2011, 5:19 am

Lonermutant wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

Lonermutant wrote:

Nt people are social robots who fear thinking themselves. That means that probably 90% of all pot smokers do it because of peer pressure.

Not nessisarly, choosing to get high does not have to have anything to do with other people d;oing it.......some people like the feeling of being high. Kind of like some people like the feeling of being drunk. Smoking to get high and smoking to be cool are two totally different things. Also, I smoke weed because it helps me keep my depression and anxiety under control......I tried prozac and had the most horrible experiance of my life so i don't know how long it will take me to try any other anti-depressants. Not to mention I do not have that option unless I get on medicaid anyways.......so should I avoid the one thing that actually helps right now....and besides cannabis is an actual medication otherwise they would not have medical marijuana. They obviously need to look more into psychological uses of cannabis in colorado.

But anyways considering cannabis is less dangerous than ciggerettes and alcohol, it should be decriminalized or legalized for reacreational use as well....there is really no reason for it to be illegal at all.

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27 Feb 2011, 5:24 am

Smoke pot all you want but keep that stuff away from me. The smoke makes me nauseous.

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27 Feb 2011, 5:54 am

jackbus01 wrote:

Smoke pot all you want but keep that stuff away from me. The smoke makes me nauseous.

Of course, and we'd all agree that we don't need a law and the threat of prison to work out how to show each other this consideration!

Not smoking around anyone else is the rule, even to the point that a smoker should not smoke indoors on his own. Why add passive smoking to smoking? That's adding insult into injury!

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27 Feb 2011, 8:26 am

Lonermutant wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

Lonermutant wrote:

Nt people are social robots who fear thinking themselves. That means that probably 90% of all pot smokers do it because of peer pressure.

what is the difference between using one chemical over another???
oh yeah thats right, the law.
nothing else.

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27 Feb 2011, 8:56 am

Oodain wrote:

Lonermutant wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

Lonermutant wrote:

Nt people are social robots who fear thinking themselves. That means that probably 90% of all pot smokers do it because of peer pressure.

what is the difference between using one chemical over another???
oh yeah thats right, the law.
nothing else.

Exactly, and that's also why I find the argument that weed's illegal because it's a "gateway drug" (i.e., if you do weed, you'll start doing harder drugs) stupid, because that's only true if it's illegal... Somewhat of a paradox, isn't it?

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27 Feb 2011, 9:16 am

http://asdconnection.com/

If it's not medicine for aspergers, then this is a pretty silly website.

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27 Feb 2011, 11:36 am

jackbus01 wrote:

Smoke pot all you want but keep that stuff away from me. The smoke makes me nauseous.

Nonsmokers rights topic

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27 Feb 2011, 12:22 pm

People who have that kind of experience (headache or nausea) that come from second hand smoking is not something you'd see with a quality controled cannabis.

What's giving you headache is the poor nutrients use in most street cannabis. I talk from experience since I've seen many different pushers and been through many different strain quality. I have 15 years of smoking, I have some knowledge about it's effect!! ! After reading on the Advanced Nutrients website (it's a nutrient company who specialis itself in medical cannabis growing nutrients). It's a proven fact that most plant will get too many potassium, which leads to "pscht" effect (it's like little explosion in a joint, guys who already smoke probably understand what I mean). So bad quality control of every phase of growing a plant will lead to headache and nausea. But those symptoms are far from coming from the active ingredient of cannabis.

In fact, cannabis helps a lot people with headache and nausea. So to me it's impossible for one to suffer from headache with second hand smoke of controled cannabis quality.

By the way, I've never done cannabis because I thought it was cool. At first I was just curious, I continued because I liked the effect. Anybody who thinks cannabis is harmful to human body are clearl not informed at all. Those people might not even have made a 1 minute research on this subject to state those "arguments".

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27 Feb 2011, 12:32 pm

Asp-Z wrote:

Oodain wrote:

Lonermutant wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

Lonermutant wrote:

Nt people are social robots who fear thinking themselves. That means that probably 90% of all pot smokers do it because of peer pressure.

what is the difference between using one chemical over another???
oh yeah thats right, the law.
nothing else.

So true.

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27 Feb 2011, 12:34 pm

If you are curious, you are already obeying others.

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27 Feb 2011, 12:37 pm

Lonermutant wrote:

If you are curious, you are already obeying others.

Loads of people use forums. Therefore, by posting that, you are obeying others.

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