Is WP attracting too many of the wrong people

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Yep, we keep attracting resentful 'elitists' who want to exclude people who don't fit their armchair definition of AS. That's about the only wrong type I can think of. Oh, and the occasional troll / sock puppeteer

I have to wonder why it matters so much to some that we all have an official diagnosis to back up our legitimate difficulties.

Also, since when is WP exclusively for those with Aspergers?

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Because some people worry about things that don't concern them.

NEVER

Wrongplanet is for everyone, not just autistics.

Seriously. And after reading what AngelRho went through, I am even more inclined to not look into getting a diagnosis, asides the cost

Right there with you. I was all ready to seek one last year, but some of the things I heard people going through (especially those with children) stopped me cold.

I had the CPS show up on my doorstep because someone reported me shortly after I had my baby because they were concerned like I might not be able to read the cues. I fail to see who wouldn't know that when a baby cries you are supposed to pick it up and try everything like check their diaper, try and feed them, rock them, hold them. Even a mild MR person knows that. Even I knew that at a young age too. But someone who is severely ret*d may not know that.

So the person showed up and saw there was no signs of abuse nor neglect and she could tell by how the baby was acting around me and how he looked. Just thank goodness this isn't the UK. Here in the USA they don't take your kid if they don't see any danger.

If it looks like AS, smells like AS, feels like AS...........

Its probably AS (and co morbid with ADHD in my case)

Autism NZ clinician said I had AS, and would be diagnosed so by a quack, so there

Yeah... danger is subjective. Being a former foster child, I can tell you there are a lot of children taken when they shouldn't have been.

Just be careful, and don't talk to the ass that reported you. :-\

You got it!

So if Wrong Planet is attracting the wrong people and if two wrongs don't make a right, is calling an ambidextrous autistic uncoordinated a left handed complement?






(no - it's not supposed to make sense. It just matches the absurdity of the topic)

Well, that could have drawbacks as well. A weapon always cuts both ways, and its use depends on the weilder.

But how did the person reporting you draw the conclusion that you were non compos mentis to raise your own offspring because you're trying to use the mental health services available to you to improve your quality of life?

Really, if the CSA is to be believed, someone who has mental health issues and doesn't do anything about it is a far superior parent to someone who has mental health issues and spends thousands of dollars in his or her own income on improving the situation.

My goodness, someone who sees a problem in his or her social functioning and goes out, on his or her own initiative, to do something about it would never have the good sense to change a dirty diaper when the baby is crying.

Instead, let's put that kid into the hands of someone who is mildly mentally ret*d and working at a menial, low-wage job and really doesn't care whether he or she might have done something to improve his or her level of functioning. Those guys are really very responsible, you see. Those are the go-getters, you know.

Anyway, /rant /sarcasm.

I'm sorry you people had to go through this nonsense. Maybe someday our culture will make some level of sense, and good people trying to do right won't have to endure this type of thing.

Last edited by WilliamWDelaney on 04 May 2011, 3:25 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I read a statistic recently that stated that over 80 percent of diagnosed people with Aspergers cannot maintain fulltime employment. Given that statistic, the state of gaining access to healthcare, and the inherent difficulties of going the disability route in the US, it is likely that many of that eighty-percent had access to someone elses health care for diagnosis purposes.

It is a little ridiculous to expect a population of people with no likely access to healthcare to be able to afford a diagnosis unless they are covered under someones insurance plan.

Aspergers doesn't come with early developmental delays, so for so many people that have gone undiagnosed before 1994, there may be a multitude of unemployed people with the condition that are clueless what their problem is, beyond those having the support and assistance needed to get a diagnosis.

Personally, I had a developmental delay, and in 1964 it wasn't seen as a serious problem for a child to start speaking at age 4, as long as the rest of their health was good.

For some of those people that have access to the internet and have any idea what Aspergers is, this website may be one of the few places of support available to them.

I wouldn't be surprised if with healthcare reform we see more diagnosed cases, but there are so many people that may be clueless as to what their problem is, undiagnosed cases may continue to be the overwhelming majority rather than minority in the general public.

Do we really need to start this topic every week? Last time I said I was going to list 100 reasons why I think I'm an aspie, so I'm going to do just that. Just because it isn't official doesn't mean I'm not one.

1. I probably have alexithymia
2. I have an extremely difficult time empathizing with people
3. I do not get along with people my age
4. I have an abnormal sense of humor
5. I have a low stress tolerance
6. I am extremely sensitive to light
7. I am sensitive to loud noises
8. I cannot focus on more than one thing at a time
9. I can hyperfocus
10. I am a visual learner/thinker
11. I have a very good memory
12. My brain is an encyclopedia
13. I enjoy my interests more than people
14. I think outside of the box naturally
15. I was considered to be gifted when I was younger
16. I am very good at math and like technology (the aspie stereotype)
17. When I was younger I had a much larger vocabulary than normal
18. Despite that I still have a hard time expressing myself
19. I have a difficult time making eye contact
20. When I was younger people accused me of staring at them
21. People tell me I have a blank facial expression
22. I unintentionally piss people off on a daily basis
23. I hate small talk
24. Even among other nerds I do not fit in
25. I learned to read at the age of 5 (equivalent to a girl learning to read at 3)
26. When I was in the second grade I was reading on a 5th grade level
27. I get frustrated when I have to sit somewhere else
28. I plan out my day thoroughly
29. It pisses me off when people screw up my routine
30. I have a much larger attention span than most people (by at least 5x)
31. But yet I am easily distracted
32. I cannot hear someone at all with any sort of background noise
33. I have an odd posture and gait
34. I am extremely clumsy
35. I absolutely hate sports
36. I have difficulty communicating my thoughts and ideas
37. Any attempt to do so requires considerable effort
38. I have always been extremely shy
39. My shyness is not social anxiety because that is a learned behavior
40. When I was younger I would flap my hands for no apparent reason
41. I am always fidgeting with something
42. I usually think in black and white terms
43. I am extremely oblivious to most of the stuff going on around me
44. I was not able to ride a bike until I was 9
45. I have a poor sense of intuition
46. I have been known to talk at people, and not to them
47. When I was younger I took everything literally
48. I still have a difficult time with abstract thinking
49. I have a sucky imagination
50. I have an extremely difficult time making friends
51. Maintaining relationships are equally hard
52. Although I desire relationships, I never find myself willing to put in the effort
53. I hate going to parties and other events specifically for the purpose of socializing
54. I'm getting tired of doing this. Have I made my point clear? Don't tell me I don't have AS, especially if you're not a psychologist and you don't know me. And even if I'm not autistic, I still have every right to be here.

I think the bottom line is the statement below. Anytime the subject is brought up this quote could be used, as to how the owner of the site views the issue of whether or not someone who is professionally diagnosed with autism should be welcomed on the site. It is the statement listed under the forum for other conditions. He is the owner of the site, so he can welcome whomever he pleases.

Whether we have autism/Aspergers/Tourettes/bipolar/schizophrenia etc. shouldn't matter. It also shouldn't matter if we are diagnosed professionally or not. This is a SUPPORT site for ANYONE who feels different, regardless of who that person is. When I first came here I was self diagnosed... well actually my Mum was the one who self diagnosed me really! The intense stress of getting a diagnosis through the NHS was so bad I became suicidal. They just refused to admit I had AS because 'it wasn't in their expertise' and decided instead, to label me as mentally deficiant and treat me like poop. The only reason I chased a diagnosis was because I am so severely affected by my AS that it was ruining my life. If you are a 30-40 year old man/woman who is living a decent life but wants to chat to other people like themselves, then why would you bother getting a diagnosis to come on here? I welcome everyone from people with AS and autism, their parents and friends and people who are just plain different for whatever reason, self diagnosed or not.