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Abolish the Asperger's Word?
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12 Jun 2011, 7:06 pm

Nope I do not do online dating things. Ladies usually flirt with me and then well I figure it out. Their politics are extremely rude, manipulative and create public despondency and hard feelings. They act insulted at things which are not bigotry and bash people trying to help just for the sake of getting attention and have power and control over how others who I and others choose to help me and their family members. Also go up against advocacy about autism isolation for those with more severe forms of autism as if it is a stigma and it is insulting to their otherwise well included and profoundly high functioning selves. Sounds much like they would like to hide away the truth for the sake of their public image of autism and themselves which to me is very self-centered and isolates the truth. Also they use abortion politics to try and get their way or else others are bigots.

Seems like ASAN has pulled all the stunts but offers few solutions for those in actual need that others are trying to help and they call bigots. I would love very much for a debate between myself, their board and Ari himself. Until then I'll keep creating awareness of their ways and means effecting real peoples lives that they are effecting. Also creating public resent with their methods toward compassionate people in the attempt to control what they say.

Come get some ASAN. The day of reckoning for your intolerance of compassion, manipulation and self-centered bullying is coming. Some of their followers even said my mom brought me around town for others to feel sorry for me. These people are beyond rude but are antagonistic, compassionate intolerant and savvy hating manipulators. Them folks woke up someone to their ways and they will hope they wished they didn't by the end of it.


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12 Jun 2011, 7:40 pm

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Nope I do not do online dating things. Ladies usually flirt with me and then well I figure it out. Their politics are extremely rude, manipulative and create public despondency and hard feelings. They act insulted at things which are not bigotry and bash people trying to help just for the sake of getting attention and have power and control over how others who I and others choose to help me and their family members. Also go up against advocacy about autism isolation for those with more severe forms of autism as if it is a stigma and it is insulting to their otherwise well included and profoundly high functioning selves. Sounds much like they would like to hide away the truth for the sake of their public image of autism and themselves which to me is very self-centered and isolates the truth. Also they use abortion politics to try and get their way or else others are bigots.

Seems like ASAN has pulled all the stunts but offers few solutions for those in actual need that others are trying to help and they call bigots. I would love very much for a debate between myself, their board and Ari himself. Until then I'll keep creating awareness of their ways and means effecting real peoples lives that they are effecting. Also creating public resent with their methods toward compassionate people in the attempt to control what they say.

Come get some ASAN. The day of reckoning for your intolerance of compassion, manipulation and self-centered bullying is coming. Some of their followers even said my mom brought me around town for others to feel sorry for me. These people are beyond rude but are antagonistic, compassionate intolerant and savvy hating manipulators. Them folks woke up someone to their ways and they will hope they wished they didn't by the end of it.


My problem with your anti-ASAN rants is that you have NOT debated ANYTHING. Give me ONE specific example of how they have hurt someone, One case of a verifiable incident in which they harmed an individual WITH autism or even impeded his oir her progress. I don't want your opinion of their philosophy; I want specific, objective scientific evidence.


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12 Jun 2011, 7:59 pm

Calling autism isolation awareness a stigma makes it out to be a non-truth and the idea to be avoided. I'd ask them for the same kinds of evidence on their issues. Calling nice people bigots does create harmful feelings. I and others choose for their brand of awareness not to be the kind of awareness representing my and others needs and to simply don't attempt to cross that path otherwise confrontation will transpire. Likewise if they don't want cure or treatment with potential of a cure that's a human right but to go out of their way and call people bigots and Nazi's for doing so is crossing the line. Also evading human rights by calling treatment research awareness bigotry is evasive to human rights. If they want to confront advocacy I have a toll free phone number media can call me on and other organizations to assure the protection of treatment awareness rights and creative compassionate articulation to protect those views by someone with autism. I have voice talents, speech / script writings ability and would like nothing other then to put some of them in their place and for people to realize how thankful I and others are of their help and awareness creation. They are not bigots they are hero's and as with anyone like myself imperfect.


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12 Jun 2011, 8:07 pm

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Calling autism isolation awareness a stigma makes it out to be a non-truth and the idea to be avoided. I'd ask them for the same kinds of evidence on their issues. Calling nice people bigots does create harmful feelings. I and others choose for their brand of awareness not to be the kind of awareness representing my and others needs and to simply don't attempt to cross that path otherwise confrontation will transpire. Likewise if they don't want cure or treatment with potential of a cure that's a human right but to go out of their way and call people bigots and Nazi's for doing so is crossing the line. Also evading human rights by calling treatment research awareness bigotry is evasive to human rights. If they want to confront advocacy I have a toll free phone number media can call me on and other organizations to assure the protection of treatment awareness rights and creative compassionate articulation to protect those views by someone with autism. I have voice talents, speech / script writings ability and would like nothing other then to put some of them in their place and for people to realize how thankful I and others are of their help and awareness creation. They are not bigots they are hero's and as with anyone like myself imperfect.


Presses buzzer.... Sorry, ci, that was not the response we asked for, but we will send you off with some nice parting gifts.


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12 Jun 2011, 8:19 pm

The conversation was never about science but politics. The field of political science is not exactly a hard core science. Therefore your question was not about science but leading toward your trying to be right as if what they have done is wholesome and non-manipulative. Buzz - seems like you didn't know the rules of the game because you just made them up as if science covered this specifically. It's however common sense if you say the sky is blue, don't like the color of the sky and look at one part of the earth where it happens to be reddish in the near evening but forgot to think to go out other times of the day or so you say and forgetting to say the sky also has blue it is similarly a false fact in science. ASAN does not protect individuals who have isolation as a result of autism. In fact they call that a stigma and play victim of it. As if they only see themselves as autism whom are extremely high functioning and the sky is red-ish orange. Therefore they are pressuring the public into thinking the scientific fact that the sky is commonly blue is both false and insulting.

Horrible advocates that are to proud they can't stop putting their noses in the air long enough to realize the harm they are doing. Cram that down the scientific equilibrium of subjective and objective truth \ fact gathering and you tell me about the emotional bullying toward those who actually are isolated and whom they are stigmatized by. ASAN needs a good ole confrontation to set them straight and the next time one of their follows accuses me of thinking I have been special since I was young as in special ed or some kind of pity story like my mommy brought me around town for others to feel sorry for me it will get worse. Learn to respect people that really do have disabilities and don't have emotional problems but emotional maturity when it comes to compassion and help toward people like myself. It does not make me inferior that people want to help me and go out of their way to create awareness to make sure myself and others are helped.

Anyways.. I got science with a metaphoric boot to the autism politico-sphere and upcoming. See it happen.


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12 Jun 2011, 8:30 pm

Politics is also about making your ideological opponents look bad through mudslinging and insinuation when there's nothing solid to hang on them.



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12 Jun 2011, 8:32 pm

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Politics is also about making your ideological opponents look bad through mudslinging and insinuation when there's nothing solid to hang on them.


Yep and I got a style that rocks not only boats but makes for big waves. I call it civil rights social justice with a cherry on top. Come get some ASAN.


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13 Jun 2011, 5:10 am

ci wrote:
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Politics is also about making your ideological opponents look bad through mudslinging and insinuation when there's nothing solid to hang on them.
Yep and I got a style that rocks not only boats but makes for big waves. I call it civil rights social justice with a cherry on top. Come get some ASAN.
And in this context, while ignoring what dyingofpoetry asked - isn't this style (amply illustrated in your earlier posts) also called "hyperbole"?


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13 Jun 2011, 5:58 am

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He has a book about anxiety and is also very confident. That is why I wonder why it is considered a disability at all.


So Aspergers isn't a disability then? Should I tell the head of the care home I live in to shut down all the houses because none of us are disabled? What's wrong with the term Aspergers? If the Americans learnt to pronounce it properly i.e not putting the stress on the 'ASS' then it wouldn't sound so funny. In the UK it sounds fine, probably because we pronounce the g as a j sound. Anyway I tell people I am autistic usually because people just pull this 'duh' face when I say I have aspergers...

Maybe while we're at it, we should re-name Tourette syndrome to twitchy shouty syndrome and Downs syndrome to mutated chromosome 21 disorder because the names might offend someone... :roll:


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13 Jun 2011, 6:06 am

Wow, in every thread of yours there is a vid about someone farting..



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13 Jun 2011, 6:13 am

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Wow, in every thread of yours there is a vid about someone farting..


Yeah i noticed that too... See I find THAT a lot more offensive than words...


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13 Jun 2011, 9:40 am

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Wow, in every thread of yours there is a vid about someone farting..


Yeah i noticed that too... See I find THAT a lot more offensive than words...


There is something offensive about naturally occuring bodily functions that happen to everyone?



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13 Jun 2011, 9:53 am

Yes, please abolish Aspergers and also do away with the stupid rainbow symbol associated with it.


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13 Jun 2011, 10:04 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
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Wow, in every thread of yours there is a vid about someone farting..
Yeah i noticed that too... See I find THAT a lot more offensive than words...
There is something offensive about naturally occuring bodily functions that happen to everyone?
Depends on the, umm, "presentation" I guess.


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13 Jun 2011, 10:13 am

Cornflake wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Jellybean wrote:
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Wow, in every thread of yours there is a vid about someone farting..
Yeah i noticed that too... See I find THAT a lot more offensive than words...
There is something offensive about naturally occuring bodily functions that happen to everyone?
Depends on the, umm, "presentation" I guess.


I don't think i could get offended about something like that even if I wanted to.



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13 Jun 2011, 10:23 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Jellybean wrote:
Chummy wrote:
Wow, in every thread of yours there is a vid about someone farting..
Yeah i noticed that too... See I find THAT a lot more offensive than words...
There is something offensive about naturally occuring bodily functions that happen to everyone?
Depends on the, umm, "presentation" I guess.
I don't think i could get offended about something like that even if I wanted to.
I think I'd get pretty offended if someone dropped a loud one in my face as they passed me while seated on a bus. :eew:


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