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Elora_Danan
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01 Aug 2011, 10:34 pm

I have every right to say he is lying. That is not against the rules here. He says part of a story, I say he is leaving WAY too much out. So people on here only read what he wants them to read. So then the girl gets bashed, when nobody knows whats really been happening. I am here to defend her, because I personally know her VERY well. So if anything, calling this girl a "b***h" and "psychotic b***h", is demeaning and rude. And yes, you did already show who was right and who was wrong in your opinion. Read your responses again if you have already forgotten.



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01 Aug 2011, 11:46 pm

Elora_Danan wrote:
I have every right to say he is lying. That is not against the rules here. He says part of a story, I say he is leaving WAY too much out. So people on here only read what he wants them to read. So then the girl gets bashed, when nobody knows whats really been happening. I am here to defend her, because I personally know her VERY well. So if anything, calling this girl a "b***h" and "psychotic b***h", is demeaning and rude. And yes, you did already show who was right and who was wrong in your opinion. Read your responses again if you have already forgotten.

Fine, defend your friend. Tell her side of the story before this thread gets locked and/or deleted. So far you've done a piss poor job. I wonder why that is? Maybe because your friend's behavior is inexcusable?



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02 Aug 2011, 12:09 am

Reading this just made me mad like I rarely get. Dump her ass. She doesn't deserve you. I feel bad for her daughter for having such a judgmental and hateful mother.



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02 Aug 2011, 1:16 am

Yeah just as much as OP's behavior is inexcusable. It's inexcusable to post personal emails on here and then edit them to make it look one way. But no I wont even begin to tell the other side of the story, because it would be a novel. And I wont stoop to his level. He knows what he has done, so I am done here. Ever wonder why he hasnt posted anymore? He wanted to get pity, and he got it. Well played. Now he gets to watch drama unfold. He is bitter this girl would never be with him, so he comes on here to get people to bash her. Funny, but not reality. He will continue to try to be with her, and she will continue to tell him he needs to change. He has hurt her in ways that NOBODY should do to a friend. So I personally know her frustration. He backstabs people and then plays a victim. kk everyone can go on trying to give good advice on here, but you cant give advice on something you have no idea about. I dont blame everyone, because how would they know the truth if all OP does it tell part of the big picture? But I and another person who DOES know him, know better. And we have tried to call him out on this, so the drama of this thread would stop. s**t I should start a thread with a bunch of bs to try and get pity for fun. Look at the entertainment it gets!



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02 Aug 2011, 1:24 am

Elora_Danan wrote:
But I and another person who DOES know him, know better. And we have tried to call him out on this, so the drama of this thread would stop. sh** I should start a thread with a bunch of bs to try and get pity for fun. Look at the entertainment it gets!


Thing is, you've caused most of the drama on the thread. Given that the OP hasn't been back, this would have sunk below other active threads without your efforts to "set the record straight."



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02 Aug 2011, 1:30 am

So far you haven't explained what the OP has done that was purposefully malicious. All I see is a bunch of BS motives projected onto the OP by you and your friend.



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02 Aug 2011, 3:36 am

update: i read the full thread and now i get it's more complicated than i thought.



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02 Aug 2011, 10:02 am

I started this thread to get responses on what I could do better on how I acted or what I said(not pity or to bash her). I wrote it like I was talking to a psychiatrist and that this would be anonymous because its just my name and her name( im not sure why she talks about herself in thirdperson). I meant to open up to people here and I shared our emails/texts so I wouldn't miss anything and it would be accurate.

First I would like to thank everyone for their responses and elora for coming to explain parts that I may have missed.

I thought that this would be pretty confidential and I could write whatever I want with only elora knowing what I wrote but since then "others" have been involved. So I am a little reluctant to continue.

I have no problem talking about what I have done and why I did it. I take responsibility for my actions . Some things I have done I am not proud of but we are human and I have had to learn the hard way. Im not posting that here though cause this is not the relationship forum.

I would like to say though that you can't attack someone verbally and call that "helping them". What type of outcome do you expect to get by saying "go to hell you hopeless moron" or "you have the worst mind" or the multiple ways to call someone an idiot? Its mean and you know it but you still say it.

I appreciate everything elora has done with me and I have grown up alot. You have good intentions just like I do but sometimes it doesn't come out the right way( I never wanted you to be upset by posting this for example).

I just want her to be happy and I wish it was with me, but if not then I will have to find a way to accept that.



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02 Aug 2011, 12:05 pm

CharliebrownE wrote:
I started this thread to get responses on what I could do better on how I acted or what I said(not pity or to bash her). I wrote it like I was talking to a psychiatrist and that this would be anonymous because its just my name and her name( im not sure why she talks about herself in thirdperson). I meant to open up to people here and I shared our emails/texts so I wouldn't miss anything and it would be accurate.

First I would like to thank everyone for their responses and elora for coming to explain parts that I may have missed.

I thought that this would be pretty confidential and I could write whatever I want with only elora knowing what I wrote but since then "others" have been involved. So I am a little reluctant to continue.

I have no problem talking about what I have done and why I did it. I take responsibility for my actions . Some things I have done I am not proud of but we are human and I have had to learn the hard way. Im not posting that here though cause this is not the relationship forum.

I would like to say though that you can't attack someone verbally and call that "helping them". What type of outcome do you expect to get by saying "go to hell you hopeless moron" or "you have the worst mind" or the multiple ways to call someone an idiot? Its mean and you know it but you still say it.

I appreciate everything elora has done with me and I have grown up alot. You have good intentions just like I do but sometimes it doesn't come out the right way( I never wanted you to be upset by posting this for example).

I just want her to be happy and I wish it was with me, but if not then I will have to find a way to accept that.


I apologize to your friend and you for calling her a b***h. It just upsets me to see verbal abuse. I think the reality is the relationship is causing her too much stress to cope and she is taking it out on you. I really think you both have to find a way to respectfully and maturely distance yourselfs from each other.



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02 Aug 2011, 12:09 pm

Well you cant hurt someone and lie to them, and call that a friend. So I guess you never really were a friend to me? Probably not. I do know you are ashamed of things you have done to me as a friend, but should I post all those things? I won't because I dont need pity from a bunch of strangers. What exactly did you think everyone would say on here to you?? What kind of answer or advice were you thinking you would get? Did you come on here to find out if talking mean is bad lol? Or did you REALLY want advice on how you can stop being lazy and actually pick up a book? I think we all know you want pity and to create drama by posting so many emails that are irrelevant to want you want help for. Also, If this thread is not about relationships as you say now, why did you say in the very beginning "my girlfriend has left me in tears"? lol little confusing dont ya think?

What are you looking for? You say you dont know if you have aspergers, yet you have all the traits. You come on here for support for what? Since we are asking how to do things differently, I will ask a question too......What should I say when OP has told me that he had a hard life growing up, and I didnt because I got support when I was pregnant? I thought that was a heartless and idiotic remark to be honest. Why would you try to make a woman feel like she had it so much better than you, just because God forbid her own family was being there for her while she was PREGNANT. Also if I tell OP a very sensitive secret or feelings I have, and I ask him to tell NOBODY......What should I do if he ran and told his sister? Then that same sister threatens to kill me because her husband was in a gang? Can someone tell me how I should handle this? I just need avice. Oh btw his sister threatened me because I "took her brother away from her". Disturbing yes, but I think deep down she knows OP has aspergers and she was worried he wasnt going to make it on his own at age 28. That was the first time he moved out from living with his little sister, so she was sooo worried to the point she threatened to kill me. He wanted to live closer to me because we "liked" eachother. But unfortunately it only amounted to friendship.



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02 Aug 2011, 12:20 pm

What advice were you looking for by posting all those emails and texts?
It is very frustrating to read how some of you have responded to this.To those who have reread these threads and have realized there is more to this then you realized and apologized,I thank you.



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02 Aug 2011, 12:20 pm

You're doing it again Elora, putting him down in public. Wouldn't it be best not to continue this here?



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02 Aug 2011, 12:43 pm

I will agree with everyone on that, talking mean does not help someone. NOTHING will help someone when they dont care enough to get help.

Now that the obvious has been stated, time to give advice to OP on what he should do different like he has asked. He wants to know how to use common sense. Like an example that you read in the emails he posted..., he put his sister's address for the RETURN address on mail sent to his the girl he calls "girlfriend". Inside the envelope was a sim card that was his friends. OP was sending it back to her because he took it with him to another state on accident. So INSTEAD of putting HIS address for the return address, he put his sisters address (THE ONE WHO THREATENED THE GIRL). Something with that is very disturbing. How is there ANY logic in doing that. If by chance that sim card did get sent to his sisters house, she wouldve saw MORE personal stuff about that girl and used it against her AGAIN. OP tries to make sense of it, but just cant. So he wants help on how he coudve used his head instead of doing what he did. I know you cant teach common sense. But man that was a pretty dumb move. Stuff like this happens all the time. But he says he is "normal". Just all makes you wonder..... I've already told him he needs to find a specialist for aspergers and read good books to start. Maybe he was hoping that people on here could give different advice? What does everyone think? He says he wants no bashing, so how about give advice on what he should be doing. Ok I must be off now, I've wasted way too much of my time on here. At this point I already know he will continue to "edit" his stories so whats the point to come on here and defend people? Take care everyone!



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02 Aug 2011, 1:02 pm

You have given no evidence that he did anything to purposefully hurt you. Also, it looks like you are lying by claiming to be a third person. Is rlg also a sock puppet account of yours? How bizarre.



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02 Aug 2011, 1:11 pm

Heh. I'm pretty sure the mods are going to lock this soon. It's turning into drama overload.


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02 Aug 2011, 1:42 pm

wow.