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26 Dec 2011, 12:13 am

Normally, I cant stand Christmas, so many people doing things, always wanting me to participate, endless mindless blah blah blah. This year however, was quiet. only 7 people, and we mostly sat around & drank, not a whole lot of pointless conversation. We drove on the beach, & IT WAS PACKED! in previous years there might be a jogger or guy with a santa hat on a bike but this year wall to wall people sunbathing, sandcastle-ing, in the water, Para-sailing, WOW! there was even a family with a christmas tree in a pot. Lots of Bikini's & Lots of White(non-tanned) People from the North calling home to brag about being on the beach with 80 degrees at Christmas(they had smug looks on their faces while on the phone, I can only assume that is what they were talking about [when i say 'they' I mean, several people talking on the phone as we drove ever so slowly 3 miles out to the jetties])

So, Yes, good Christmas this year. I hope I'll have many more like this one.



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26 Dec 2011, 1:34 am

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We drove on the beach, & IT WAS PACKED! in previous years there might be a jogger or guy with a santa hat on a bike but this year wall to wall people sunbathing, sandcastle-ing, in the water, Para-sailing.

Damn it! That means the Entees know what we know, that christmas is just another excuse for a holiday and has absolutely no meaning. I don't feel so special anymore.



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27 Dec 2011, 11:14 am

DerStadtschutz wrote:
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hi! wish you all a happy holiday! we all have different kinds of personal christmas and ways to celebrate it, and reasons and what we think about those things. But whats important is that we may feel happy and loved this time of year.. we don't have to conform to everything everyone does to feel such. Lets do what we want to do or do what we have to do with whats planned for the holidays in the family out of love because its not all the time everyone could extend their compassion, care and concern and love to their loved ones, its just almost a reminding question before the year ends if have we given others joy and love more importantly ourselves..

im not saying people should agree with me but its also tradition and/or culture, an activity, we do for the holidays we could just partake to the occasion cuz its is special and only happen once a year, so maybe we could look forward in doing, experiencing and feeling what we usually dont at least just once for this year.. :D

anyways, have a good one everyone! xoxox


Sounds nice but I have a hard time understanding what love is and what I should do out of love.


Hi Robdemanc! :D sorry, well.. try to do what you think would make them smile or something they would appreciate that u know even if just little things, and out of love in the sense that it is something u want to do for them and would even get out of your way or your comfort zone a bit, which could be as simple as purchasing them a gift, or staying with them during the holiday gathering, doing a gesture u want to do for them that u want to do or is ok for u to do as well.. its the holidays, everyone should be happy or at least okay.. :D


Translation: Screw how you feel, you should just go along with this stupid tradition cuz other people want you to, and nevermind the fact that Christmas doesn't make everybody happy. Holidays are just like any other day. They'll be here for 24 hours, and then they will fade away. And there's nothing special about them either. They come back every year, but they only get worse as time goes on. When I was a kid, we didn't see christmas decorations and promotions go up the second halloween was over. We didn't see any of that sh** until after thanksgiving, and thanksgiving actually existed then. People DECORATED for it, if you can imagine that. Now Santa's fat ass has to occupy half the damn calendar, and everything's "omfg, buy this sh**!" That's all any holiday is anymore, a shopping spree. If you don't partake in all the consumer whoring around, then you're labeled a grinch, an a**hole, whatever, and people say "where's your christmas cheer/spirit?" It's just like when I was in school and spirit week or whatever they called it rolled around, you know, the days near homecoming, where everybody does some stupid theme each day leading up to the homecoming game to show off their school spirit. Everybody would say "where's your school spirit?" Both of these intangible, abstract nouns are planted firmly in your rectum. Now leave me alone and keep me out of your stupid crap.

I've been asking to be left out of christmas now for about 5 years. I'm so damn sick and tired of it, I could strangle santa claus and every one of those stupid elves, and I'd poison the reindeer too for good measure. But sure enough, EVERY SINGLE YEAR, some asshat goes and gets me a present anyway and crams the whole f**** thing down my throat. Then if I don't do the same, even though I specifically said I didn't want ANYTHING in the first place, somehow people see me as an a**hole. I just want to be left the hell alone on christmas. Is that too much to ask for? is that so hard for you people obsessed with this lame ass holiday to do? If people want left out of christmas, LEAVE THEM THE f**k ALONE.


Well said!! ! :D



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27 Dec 2011, 2:24 pm

ghostar wrote:
DerStadtschutz wrote:
NcNbl wrote:
Robdemanc wrote:
NcNbl wrote:
hi! wish you all a happy holiday! we all have different kinds of personal christmas and ways to celebrate it, and reasons and what we think about those things. But whats important is that we may feel happy and loved this time of year.. we don't have to conform to everything everyone does to feel such. Lets do what we want to do or do what we have to do with whats planned for the holidays in the family out of love because its not all the time everyone could extend their compassion, care and concern and love to their loved ones, its just almost a reminding question before the year ends if have we given others joy and love more importantly ourselves..

im not saying people should agree with me but its also tradition and/or culture, an activity, we do for the holidays we could just partake to the occasion cuz its is special and only happen once a year, so maybe we could look forward in doing, experiencing and feeling what we usually dont at least just once for this year.. :D

anyways, have a good one everyone! xoxox


Sounds nice but I have a hard time understanding what love is and what I should do out of love.


Hi Robdemanc! :D sorry, well.. try to do what you think would make them smile or something they would appreciate that u know even if just little things, and out of love in the sense that it is something u want to do for them and would even get out of your way or your comfort zone a bit, which could be as simple as purchasing them a gift, or staying with them during the holiday gathering, doing a gesture u want to do for them that u want to do or is ok for u to do as well.. its the holidays, everyone should be happy or at least okay.. :D


Translation: Screw how you feel, you should just go along with this stupid tradition cuz other people want you to, and nevermind the fact that Christmas doesn't make everybody happy. Holidays are just like any other day. They'll be here for 24 hours, and then they will fade away. And there's nothing special about them either. They come back every year, but they only get worse as time goes on. When I was a kid, we didn't see christmas decorations and promotions go up the second halloween was over. We didn't see any of that sh** until after thanksgiving, and thanksgiving actually existed then. People DECORATED for it, if you can imagine that. Now Santa's fat ass has to occupy half the damn calendar, and everything's "omfg, buy this sh**!" That's all any holiday is anymore, a shopping spree. If you don't partake in all the consumer whoring around, then you're labeled a grinch, an a**hole, whatever, and people say "where's your christmas cheer/spirit?" It's just like when I was in school and spirit week or whatever they called it rolled around, you know, the days near homecoming, where everybody does some stupid theme each day leading up to the homecoming game to show off their school spirit. Everybody would say "where's your school spirit?" Both of these intangible, abstract nouns are planted firmly in your rectum. Now leave me alone and keep me out of your stupid crap.

I've been asking to be left out of christmas now for about 5 years. I'm so damn sick and tired of it, I could strangle santa claus and every one of those stupid elves, and I'd poison the reindeer too for good measure. But sure enough, EVERY SINGLE YEAR, some asshat goes and gets me a present anyway and crams the whole f**** thing down my throat. Then if I don't do the same, even though I specifically said I didn't want ANYTHING in the first place, somehow people see me as an a**hole. I just want to be left the hell alone on christmas. Is that too much to ask for? is that so hard for you people obsessed with this lame ass holiday to do? If people want left out of christmas, LEAVE THEM THE f**k ALONE.


Well said!! ! :D


It is remarkable that Christmas is the one thing its impossible to get out of. Last year (2010) wasn't so bad for me because I locked myself away in my flat and ignored the phone and door. I had no TV so didn't get reminded of it. But it seemed quite drastic action just to avoid christmas.



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27 Dec 2011, 3:18 pm

Robdemanc wrote:
ghostar wrote:
DerStadtschutz wrote:
NcNbl wrote:
Robdemanc wrote:
NcNbl wrote:
hi! wish you all a happy holiday! we all have different kinds of personal christmas and ways to celebrate it, and reasons and what we think about those things. But whats important is that we may feel happy and loved this time of year.. we don't have to conform to everything everyone does to feel such. Lets do what we want to do or do what we have to do with whats planned for the holidays in the family out of love because its not all the time everyone could extend their compassion, care and concern and love to their loved ones, its just almost a reminding question before the year ends if have we given others joy and love more importantly ourselves..

im not saying people should agree with me but its also tradition and/or culture, an activity, we do for the holidays we could just partake to the occasion cuz its is special and only happen once a year, so maybe we could look forward in doing, experiencing and feeling what we usually dont at least just once for this year.. :D

anyways, have a good one everyone! xoxox


Sounds nice but I have a hard time understanding what love is and what I should do out of love.


Hi Robdemanc! :D sorry, well.. try to do what you think would make them smile or something they would appreciate that u know even if just little things, and out of love in the sense that it is something u want to do for them and would even get out of your way or your comfort zone a bit, which could be as simple as purchasing them a gift, or staying with them during the holiday gathering, doing a gesture u want to do for them that u want to do or is ok for u to do as well.. its the holidays, everyone should be happy or at least okay.. :D


Translation: Screw how you feel, you should just go along with this stupid tradition cuz other people want you to, and nevermind the fact that Christmas doesn't make everybody happy. Holidays are just like any other day. They'll be here for 24 hours, and then they will fade away. And there's nothing special about them either. They come back every year, but they only get worse as time goes on. When I was a kid, we didn't see christmas decorations and promotions go up the second halloween was over. We didn't see any of that sh** until after thanksgiving, and thanksgiving actually existed then. People DECORATED for it, if you can imagine that. Now Santa's fat ass has to occupy half the damn calendar, and everything's "omfg, buy this sh**!" That's all any holiday is anymore, a shopping spree. If you don't partake in all the consumer whoring around, then you're labeled a grinch, an a**hole, whatever, and people say "where's your christmas cheer/spirit?" It's just like when I was in school and spirit week or whatever they called it rolled around, you know, the days near homecoming, where everybody does some stupid theme each day leading up to the homecoming game to show off their school spirit. Everybody would say "where's your school spirit?" Both of these intangible, abstract nouns are planted firmly in your rectum. Now leave me alone and keep me out of your stupid crap.

I've been asking to be left out of christmas now for about 5 years. I'm so damn sick and tired of it, I could strangle santa claus and every one of those stupid elves, and I'd poison the reindeer too for good measure. But sure enough, EVERY SINGLE YEAR, some asshat goes and gets me a present anyway and crams the whole f**** thing down my throat. Then if I don't do the same, even though I specifically said I didn't want ANYTHING in the first place, somehow people see me as an a**hole. I just want to be left the hell alone on christmas. Is that too much to ask for? is that so hard for you people obsessed with this lame ass holiday to do? If people want left out of christmas, LEAVE THEM THE f**k ALONE.


Well said!! ! :D


It is remarkable that Christmas is the one thing its impossible to get out of. Last year (2010) wasn't so bad for me because I locked myself away in my flat and ignored the phone and door. I had no TV so didn't get reminded of it. But it seemed quite drastic action just to avoid christmas.


I told my family that I had pneumonia for 6 Christmases in a row before they caught on. After they figured out what I was doing, I decided to just be honest and tell them I don't want to come. Now they don't expect me to come anymore. It is a huge relief. :wink:



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03 Oct 2012, 8:19 am

This is only my second message on this forum and I seem to agree with a lot of other posters in this thread--no need to start a new one.

I really dread the Christmas season and was really depressed last year, mainly because of the trouble and expense and I really don't NEED anything material. First was the hassle of putting out the decorations (when I was single, putting out a coffee table three was my only decoration). It was months before I finally cashed out various gift cards. The grandkids get so much stuff they don't appreciate it.

I used to be active in the church and choir, but with other demands on my time I can't commit to it any more.

Anyone else feel they would like to hibernate the whole month of December?



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03 Oct 2012, 9:55 am

The only things I like about Christmas are the fact that it's winter (my body won't overheat as easily) and that I get to gorge on free food. Who doesn't like free food?
I couldn't give a rat's a** whether I received gifts or not. I'd much rather give them, as long as the person gives me a clear list of what they want.

I dislike the sense of compulsion that society has imposed to purchase big-ticket items for people who really do not like you or the spoiled, entitled children who will only end up breaking the item in a fit of rage after finding out you didn't get them that new video game. I have even seen kids yell at their parents for getting something they didn't ask for/not getting everything they wanted; it's utterly disgusting to see the level of greed and disrespect our generation and those younger than myself routinely display. I guess I'm merely making myself seem old for appreciating everything I own (I mean everything too).



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03 Oct 2012, 1:27 pm

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Is anyone looking forward to christmas day? I am not, can't wait till its over. I am at my mothers and there will be about 20 people here for the day. I cannot spend hours pretending I like it.

How about others?


I don't mind the idea of Christmas if you're religious, but when people who don't believe in god celebrate it, it really annoys me! :x
It's called 'Christ Mass' and if you don't believe in Christ why are you still doing it? :roll:

Not to mention once you're an adult you're expected to all give each other equal value presents. For me that just means we have to pay for something we probably didn't want. And if I ask for money people seem to think I suddenly just announced that I'm the devil....
(And don't say christmas is just a time for everyone to exchange presents for the joy it brings either, if that's your reasoning you should do it any time in the year. :wink:)


Actually it's called YULE, and it was celebrated by pagans long before christ. And most of its traditions were established by the pagans. The reason why we do the same things as the pagans has to do with constantine converting rome to christianity and adopting old traditions so the people would be more easily accepting of the new religion. But hey, you can believe what you want.

As for why you'd celebrate christmas if you don't believe in anything... Well, have you been out in the real world lately? If you don't celebrate christmas, people react as though you just told them you're a child molester. Family and friends pretty much FORCE you to "celebrate" it, and then they b***h and tell you to stop being ebeneezer scrooge when you're pissed off about it...

And to make matters worse, now stupid christians are claiming there's a war on christmas. Like hell there is, christmas is shoved in my f*****g face everywhere I go starting in like September. And people will literally KILL each other to get stupid f*****g christmas presents. But because some businesses choose to acknowledge that there's more than one damn holiday taking place around the same time of the year, stupid ass christians claim a "war on christmas." Heaven forbid we acknowledge anyone else's customs and traditions... This is why I hate christians and christmas. Santa claus needs to get his fat ass off my f*****g calendar, and people need to leave me the f**k out of christmas. I hate the holiday. What always happens is some a**hole pressures me into buying stupid gifts, and then they're not appreciated, so I end up feeling like I wasted a lot of time and money. And I try telling them every year to just leave me the hell out, but they never do. They insist on getting me s**t I don't want and forcing me to go waste my time and money on s**t they don't want.

I wish there WAS a war on christmas... and self righteous sh***y christians.

I'm sick and tired of hearing about some stupid black lady pepper spraying people to get a f*****g xbox and store clerks getting trampled to death so little timmy can have that f*****g furby. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!



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03 Oct 2012, 1:33 pm

Always pressure from family to travel to meet one family member or another during this season. They are scattered all over north america. I hate traveling, especially during the holidays. Always pressure to spend extra time with people. It's very hard for me.



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03 Oct 2012, 1:36 pm

It is over 2 months away so I am not too concerned about it now. I don't get anxious until December when everyone seems to go beserk suddenly. I usually steer clear of shopping centres and never watch TV so I don't sense it until I see others decorations and trees in their windows.

Hopefully in the UK this year we will have a harsh winter and that will put a stop to it.



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03 Oct 2012, 1:45 pm

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It is over 2 months away so I am not too concerned about it now. I don't get anxious until December when everyone seems to go beserk suddenly. I usually steer clear of shopping centres and never watch TV so I don't sense it until I see others decorations and trees in their windows.

Hopefully in the UK this year we will have a harsh winter and that will put a stop to it.


There are already Christmas decorations for sale here in Los Angeles stores. And I HATE Christmas with a passion. Christmas music makes me surly and violent. Winter Solstice, on the other hand, is pretty chill (lol at pun). :wink:



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03 Oct 2012, 2:22 pm

gretchyn wrote:
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It is over 2 months away so I am not too concerned about it now. I don't get anxious until December when everyone seems to go beserk suddenly. I usually steer clear of shopping centres and never watch TV so I don't sense it until I see others decorations and trees in their windows.

Hopefully in the UK this year we will have a harsh winter and that will put a stop to it.


There are already Christmas decorations for sale here in Los Angeles stores. And I HATE Christmas with a passion. Christmas music makes me surly and violent. Winter Solstice, on the other hand, is pretty chill (lol at pun). :wink:


I love the solstices. The winter solstice is the original festival that we now call christmas anyway so I try to see it that way. When we have our christmas day meal in my mind I am thinking of our ancestors who waited for that day so they knew the solstice had passed and the spring would return.



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03 Oct 2012, 2:34 pm

I love Christmas. The snow, the lights, everything.



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03 Oct 2012, 2:58 pm

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Christmas just doesn't hold that same "magic" for me as it did when I was a a younger child.


I know this was posted last year, but yes! Out of all the sentences and posts in the thread, I relate with this one the most.

When I was a kid, I got away with a wish list, and my parents actually made an effort to get I wanted. Now, I have one because I can't hold back what I think about the gifts I get and dislike without melting down, and my parents want to act grateful for what I get even when I'm not. The amazon wish list is a compromise.

Am I a spoiled brat? Maybe. Am I compulsively honest? Certainly.


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03 Oct 2012, 6:02 pm

I love Christmas and enjoy everything about it. I have a friend who's also an Aspie who hates it. She didn't have a very good childhood. She was in and out of foster homes and the toys her and her orphaned brothers and sisters got on Christmas morning were all taken away and given to the kids next door.


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