What is your IQ?
I have a low IQ. The only time I score high is the online IQ tests but as most people know it is not as accurate as the professional ones. The online IQ tests allow people to guess as they are multiple choice questions. Even I score high on those. In fact I scored as high as 126!! While in real life I typically score between 78-85. I have had several IQ tests during my lifetime. There is a sub-test called "Coding" in which I am in the 1% percentile! I am the lowest 1% in the WORLD. And in my IQ test that I had that score, I only got an 82. It also measured my strengths and weaknesses. Several were marked as weaknesses and they noticed not one strength. I am the last to figure out the simple tasks of real life. I can't even figure out the best way to load the car. I can't figure out how to cook a meal without getting overwhelmed. I don't drive. I don't do ANYTHING particularly useful. My vocabulary is absolutely pathetic and my average writing skills is approximately 1st grade maybe up to 6th grade if I am really thinking while writing. That is why now I am studying vocabulary. I want to sound intelligent for the first time in my life. I know that others have said that I have a good vocabulary (such as my psychologist) because I have heavily studied psychology at my own pace (not school, just self-taught) and I have surprised my psychologist with information that she doesn't even know!
I did score 113 on some German WISC equivalent.
Online IQ tests are just random numbers, entirely worthless.
If you are talking about IQ, you have to refer to at least one of the MENSA-accepted tests.
But even the 'real' IQ tests are a lot of guesswork. If you look through the solutions (with explaination) of ravens matrices for example, you will find that they might be ambiguous, especially the really easy and really difficult ones. All the other questions of the IQ test might also suffer from the same problem. When I scored supposedly wrong on the matrices, it was always because I found an arguably better rule-based and explainable solution (it just depends on what attributes you weight to be more relevant). If you score 100% right on ravens matrices, it just proves that you could apply the same logic as the creators of the test aka other people, and/or that you got entirely unambiguous sheets by coincidence. That's not really helpful in determining IQ, the tests should be more thought through and tested more exhaustively, which they aren't unfortunately.
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But, FireBird, you do sound intelligent
The problem with me and clinical IQ tests would be the time limit. The last one I took, I rushed through the questions, thinking they were timed, or that I had to get the answers quickly to get a higher score. I don't know it some of them were or not. But I guess I also rushed in school, in order to just finish a task. It's really stupid, because I wonder what I could have done if people had given me more time to finish things. Now I get extra time in university, but it's a little too late for me.
Anyways, I ended up being an underachiever somewhere along the line. I got fed up with my intelligence or knowledge being determined by some test that I couldn't even finish, or school exams where would get an answer wrong on that I knew but couldn't express in ways people understood. I really don't believe in the results I have gotten on the tests.
My father, department head of clinical psychology at Washington University, administered test in 1970.
After all that LSD I did a few years later, I probably dropped a few points.
Whatever, it's not frequent flyer miles anyway.
The IQ test I did recently, -after- doing LSD - my favorite psychedelic - many times (not to mention a -staggering- amount of other psychedelics, since I was 17), scored above the previous score I had, before I did any of that. It was higher than the previous score. No offense or anything - indeed, I enjoy reading your posts for the most part - but I think that the idea that any psychedelic lowers your intelligence is totally ridiculous, just laughable, and ignorant, and sad, and not backed by any credible evidence whatsoever. I mean no offense. For all I know, you could have been joking.
That being said, I think my IQ scores raised because I have taken similar tests before and knew how they worked. I also think IQ tests are total garbage. No test, in my opinion, can tell someone how intelligent they are. The fact that I got different results taking them, in my opinion, shows one reason why they are not reliable at all.
118, must have been one of my better moments today, or i just got a lot of them right by accident. They do say to choose a random one if you arent sure instead of not answering.
Definitely the exception i would get that high. i seem to recall one many years ago where i got like 70 or something. 75.
Research shows that people with Asperger's do better on Raven's matrices.
I've always been somewhat skeptical of this, myself. I've seen an article making this argument before, but it seems unlikely to me. Fully eighty percent of us have a non-verbal learning disability, and if you do, then pattern recognition probably isn't going to be your forte. Maybe it's better than other non-verbal measures, and going to the online version hosted through a legitimate website (the Danish Mensa, for what it's worth, although obviously it's still not a clinical IQ test), I did definitely score higher than is typical for me on a non-verbal measure, but still a lot lower than my typical VIQ score (although I could have gotten frustrated with it on the last four more difficult questions; they might have dragged it up to within ten points if I had gotten them right).
Well for me the score on Raven are better as a official test put at the 95-100th percentile on it (125+IQ), propably closer to 95 that 100 as a similar subtest of the WAIS 3 put me only at the 91th percentile; Guess even with those result I'm not gifted, beside having "gifted" interests.
The term "gifted" seems to rely just as much on whether a teacher thinks you're "special" as it does on any objective testing.
In my school, one of your parents had to either work for the school district or be really active in the PTA in order for you to be labeled "gifted."
What you describe sound like a bad gifted program. My parents are not the kind of peoples that would seek a "gifted" label only to be proud of their little "genius". (Though they were seeking a label, but one that would explain why I was different, turn out it was asperger.) And I was never been part of any gifted program anyway.
Giftedness is it's own reality, and gifted individuals got they own characteristics as well as a different way of thinking (arboreteous thinking) that sound pretty cool. http://www.gifteddevelopment.com/What_is_Gifted/characgt.htm
That's a list of arbitrary personality characteristics.
How does one objectively determine if a child is a "deep-thinker" or is "hurt easily?" They don't. Why is "giftedness" apparent from a facility with numbers, but not a facility with words? Can a "gifted" child be good at playing the flute instead of solving jigsaw puzzles?
Like I said, "giftedness" appears to be largely based on whether or not a particular professional thinks you've got a "special" personality.
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i do not have an IQ because everything i think and do is ad hoc.
but seriously, my IQ is a value that is placed on my intelligence by people who wish to have a static number, but my intelligence varies greatly from hour to hour.
if i am content, i look at things more intelligently than if i am worried.
my intelligence is very much attenuated by my level of stress.
139 when I was tested at age 14 (loooong time ago lol). I don't know now but I would imagine it's changed.
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Here the thing --- IQ tests are not designed for the Asperger's mind. My son went through a whole bank of tests during his diagnostic work up. One of these was a multifaceted IQ test (took almost a full day). The diagnostician said that he tested out over all at about 125 - that they could not be more exact because the test was for 10 to 15 year olds and at 14 my son had placed so high in some areas as to be beyond accuracy ie... scores above 190 and in other areas he struggled mightily -- with a low in social interaction at 80 - it was these results that confirmed Asperger's for them. The results for the average person tend to be very level across all the tests and very very rarely above 120.
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Yeah, when I was last tested, I was tested in different areas of functioning. Some of my scores were high, in the superior to very superior range, while others were lower, in the average range. This was when I was diagnosed with Asperger's. The clinician wrote that the large discrepancies in my scores were characteristic of Asperger's.
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How in the heck can an IQ test be valid for autistic people (and people with learning disabilities and unusual brains of other sorts) when it was normed on a bunch of NTs and there are such huge differences between sub-scores?
IQ is, honestly, irrelevant. You can measure the brain by other methods, for example the vineland adaptive behavior scale, on which most Aspies score in the 50-80 range... When your average Aspie is scoring in the lowest 1% of the population on one test, and in the highest 1% of the population on another test, you can't say those tests are measuring intelligence, because they can't be measuring the same thing. What are they measuring? Probably how good you are at taking tests.
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