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lkonantz
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01 Dec 2006, 4:29 pm

I have had the same experience. However, I was seeing a counselor or psycologist because of the depression, which was caused by the problems I have from Aspie. I would go in and talk about everything and ask for help but never got anything that I could use. When I was in high school, I told my mom that it was not helping but she said I had to kept going. It was dealing all of this that my mom and counselor figured out that I had AS. It was nice to know but my counselor didn't do much to help me with it.

Then I transfered colleges last year, and things started to go downhill so I started to see a counselor again so I would have someone else to talk to, so my mom didn't have to hear all my problems over the phone everynight. However, I've see the counselor for a year now and I'm gettng the same feeling again that its not really helping because she doesn't know what to do with me except say I really don't see why they friend you know won't invite to do things or You are a great person so people should be interested in you. Like that will really help me. I made a comment about this to my mom a couple of the weeks ago, and then she found this website. (I see a connection between the two.)

I guess the point is you are not alone with what happened to you. I have to say it said very weird and I would never go to that person again becuase it doesn't help you if you don't feel comfortable around the counselor.

ooohprettycolors
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01 Dec 2006, 5:32 pm

I was seeing a psychiatrist who helped withmy ocd and tourrette's med, and just to talk to sometimes. he said similar things to me when i talked about having problems socialising, or why i'm in my 20's and never had a relationship. he said things like, "well, those things take time you know. you really don't meet new friends at your school? have you tried going to events at other schools?" PLEASE!

Then i found about AS on my own and he didn't think i had it because i can make eye contact and be creative. I informed him otherwise by reading from tony attwood's book, whom he had never heard of. Luckily i found a neuropsychologist who diagnosed me properly, did testing, and wrote a 10 pg report about me for other doctors' future reference, and refered me to a social coach and a sensory integration therapist. none of this sit talk listen and stare nonsense. I hope all of you can find similar help, or at least know when to reject the "help" you're offered.

alex
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01 Dec 2006, 5:34 pm

ooohprettycolors wrote:

i've never had trouble making eye contact either.

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lkonantz
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01 Dec 2006, 5:41 pm

One of the psycologists I saw after I was diagnosed, didn't believe my mom that I had AS becasue I could make eye contact with her. However, I've been trained over all period of time to make eye contact with doctors.

anbuend
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01 Dec 2006, 5:42 pm

Griff wrote:

IT'S A FREUDIAN! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE! KILL! DESTROY! MANGLE! Stop seeing this woman immediately, and send a death squad after her. Report her to the authorities for sexual abuse or something, ANYTHING to get this freudian psychofanatic off the job and into a FREAKING PRISON! All she'll do is try to convince you that every pissy problem you've ever had is rooted in how much sex you've been getting and how, deny that autism even exists, and try to sell you on some antiquated pseudoscience that completely and blindly ignores every single thing that's been discovered about the human brain for the past fifty years! RUN!

Somewhat funny story about a family member who accidentally ran into a Freudian:

He kept talking to the shrink, and the shrink kept just asking him questions but not really giving answers.

He eventually got frustrated and said, "Are you by any chance a Freudian?"

The shrink answered "...and how does that make you feel?"

(He obviously never returned.)

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janicka
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01 Dec 2006, 9:01 pm

alex wrote:

ooohprettycolors wrote:

*snip* ... he didn't think i had it because i can make eye contact and be creative.

i've never had trouble making eye contact either.

I can force myself but it's uncomfortable.

CockneyRebel
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01 Dec 2006, 10:22 pm

You can read all about my experience with my shrink, in The Haven.

Remnant
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01 Dec 2006, 10:41 pm

I don't make eye contact so much because other people feel threatened, not me.

goomba
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02 Dec 2006, 12:51 am

janicka wrote:

alex wrote:

ooohprettycolors wrote:

*snip* ... he didn't think i had it because i can make eye contact and be creative.

i've never had trouble making eye contact either.

I can force myself but it's uncomfortable.

I have the most problems with eye contact while in a depressive episode. It can be difficult to force myself to make eye contact at any time though. If I think to myself "I will be confident," then the feeling of confidence can follow. To think positive like this is more likely to draw a positive result - as opposed to negative self-talk - which is more like self-sabotage. CBT taught me techniques like this and it is by far and away the most effective and helpful form of therapy I have engaged in. I would recommend to any aspie who is experiencing trouble coping.

cheesecheese
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02 Dec 2006, 9:22 am

p-s-y-c-h-o-l-o-g-i-s-t
p-s-y-c-h-i-a-t-r-i-s-t
Correct spelling! yay!
For people who want to cut and paste it: psychologist, psychiatrist.

Sophist
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02 Dec 2006, 7:16 pm

r_mc wrote:

Sophist wrote:

r_mc, who are you being sent to for assessment? Despite that your GP sounds more sure of herself than she should be for a group of disorders she doesn't have professional experience in, I'm glad she's at least referring you on for assessment.

Is this diagnostician you're going to someone who is very experienced in adult ASDs and your sex? If not, ask for a different referal from your GP because child diagnosticians are usually not experienced enough to spot an adult aspie.

Unfortunately I discovered that by experience. So don't make my same mistake.

I am being sent to the London Institute of Psychiatry at Kings College London- they've got a department that specialises in social, genetic and developmental psychiatry. I don't know what their reputation's like or if they've got anyone qualified to assess adult females.

http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/iopweb/departm ... locator=10

I would seriously recommend calling the place, finding out who you will be seeing, and get their background to find out if they're even experienced in adult Aspie females. Otherwise you could be wasting your time, especially in the UK since the referal system is so much more strict and you're likely only getting one shot at this that they'll pay for.

If you find out that no one at that place is experienced in your range, I'd really go back and try to get a different referal for someone who is.

It may be a pain to find this all out and then ask for another referal if necessary. But it would probably really be worth it. Women aspies seem especially harder to diagnose unless the diagnostician is really experienced with them. Children look different than adults, and males look different than females. Someone who's experienced in the whole range is the surest way to ensure yourself a diagnosis.

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