How satisfied are you with your birth-assigned gender?

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How satisfied are you with the gender you were assigned at birth?

1	2%	[ 2 ]
2	2%	[ 2 ]
3	11%	[ 15 ]
4	10%	[ 13 ]
5	21%	[ 28 ]
6	6%	[ 8 ]
7	14%	[ 18 ]
8	14%	[ 19 ]
9	5%	[ 7 ]
10	15%	[ 20 ]

Total votes : 132

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18 Jul 2012, 9:04 pm

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Yeah, I don't know any benefits to PMS and menstruation. :lol:

Ability to have children - although if one does not want children then that wouldn't be a benefit - could even be a downside.

It's my main source of gender dysphoria.

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18 Jul 2012, 10:39 pm

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IMore upper body strength would be sweet, as would the ability to pee standing up.

It's a little known fact, but girls actually can pee while standing up. Girls have the same urethra canal thing as boys, it just ends a little sooner so it is harder to aim, but it can be done. Its common in some places in Africa and Southeast Asia for women to pee while standing up and projecting by tilting their waist a certain way and manipulating their labia or pressing around the uthera or something, enabling the stream to go forward like a man would, as I'm male I'm unable to expirement at this. The easier way is just to artificially extend the uthera with a funnel or something. Don't ask me how I know this...

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18 Jul 2012, 11:07 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:

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The odd part is that I was wired and my friend supplied all of the words for me

Yup, that's the odd part.
Are you pulling our collective leg?

Nope, he thought it would be interesting to put a camera/microphone/ear piece on me and make me go talk to strange women. Apart from the obvious humor value, he was studying sociology and I think his lab rat died, so had to put someone in the maze and throw cheese at. He wanted someone not that bad looking but not that good with women, also used another mate (stunning good looks but a complete prat) and fed him awkward things to say).

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18 Jul 2012, 11:28 pm

Well, sometimes I wish I could experience a mind-blowing ahegao-inducing female orgasm for myself, but other than that I'm cool being a guy. Seriously though the last two girls I had sex with, sometimes I'd get jealous because it seemed like the sensation was 10 times better for them. If I were to wake up in the morning plus boobs but minus member, I'd probably spend the rest of the day locked in my room. You know.

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18 Jul 2012, 11:31 pm

8 .. just 8

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19 Jul 2012, 12:21 am

5, maybe?

I hated being female for a while, but now that I, er, haven't had a time of month for over a year (unknown reasons; not pregnant, on any meds, or severely underweight and not complaining! ), I feel like I have a sweet deal. No super sensitive stuff dangling precariously between my legs (and no resultant embarassing moments), and no pressure to be overly 'tough' all the time. I am extraordinarily thankful to somehow be getting the best of both worlds, so maybe I should upgrade to at least an 8.

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19 Jul 2012, 1:34 am

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One thing I think is interesting about this thread, is how many females there are who desire to be males, compared to the number of males in the thread who desire to be females. It seems many more females here desire to be male, than males who desire to be female.

I find it interesting, because the place I usually talk about gender issues (a website where all of the users are anonymous - no screen names/usernames) were MtF (males who wanted to be females). I wonder if it is because there are strong stigmas against males who express such wishes, and the anonymity makes them feel okay with disclosing their gender issues - or, if it is because that website potentially had/has a larger male population than a female population. (biologically male and female, that is)

I just find it interesting - it's because for my entire life as someone who hates being male and feels disgust at their body -every-single-day- (and as someone with a practially photographic memory, I am being very literal when I say -every-single-day-) - when I interacted with other people with gender dysphoria, they were mostly males who wanted to be females - yet here, on WP, my only real sanctum as far as autism is concerned, it's mostly females wanting to be males. It's just interesting to me how my main safe place for my autism differs from my main safe place for gender dysphoria, as far as ratio of males wanting to be female to females wanting to be males is concerned.

If you lend any credence to the masuclinized brain theory , it may play a role. And l've posted this a billion times before. The results are somewhat inconclusive anyway but basically the theory is that Asperger's females are masculinized in utero

They measure finger ratio to determine masculization or feminization. For autism and lots of other things now, actually.

According to my fingers then, l am "male". Or just masculinized. l would go with 5, still, though. l just can't bring myself to care about to how hard l try. Although l do "forget'my gender like another person said and even sometimes "feel" male, l would not trade my T and A for anything lol. Who knows, if l found anything about the male body remotely attractive l might say otherwise.

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19 Jul 2012, 1:54 am

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Atomsk wrote:

I don't know what to think about masculinized brain theory. It would seem to reason that autistic males would be quite male brained - but I hate my gender and for my whole life have wished I were female. Perhaps masculinized brain theory -can- be a cause of autism, but I don't think that it's the cause of autism for all - I think there are possibly multiple causes of autism, although I mainly think it's genetic.

Masculinized brain theory would help explain the large amount of females here who wish they were male, though. So I don't know what to think.

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19 Jul 2012, 1:58 am

I don't believe in the masculinised brain theory. I don't have a male digit ratio. I'm still a female with gender issues.

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19 Jul 2012, 2:09 am

Wow.. Never heard of the digit ratio until now. I just checked. Mine is >1. O_o Clearly I was bathing in estrogen soup as a fetus. Wild.

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19 Jul 2012, 2:10 am

It's one of those things that gets oversold, and it seems to match some people's experience so they go with it.

I think when people want to use the existence of autistic transgender men as evidence of the "extreme male brain" theory, it's probably appropriate to note that quite a few transgender women are autistic as well.

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19 Jul 2012, 2:15 am

PixelPony wrote:

Wow.. Never heard of the digit ratio until now. I just checked. Mine is >1. O_o Clearly I was bathing in estrogen soup as a fetus. Wild.

Mine are weird - on one hand, the index finger is slightly longer than the ring finger, and on the other the ring is slightly longer. The left hand has the longer index finger.

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19 Jul 2012, 2:43 am

I picked 8.

I'm female, but I used to feel more gender-neutral leaning on the masculine side. I'm not sure why I felt this way. My interests were never really masculine. Maybe it had something to do with my inability to connect with any of my peers and this kind of blindness/naivety I may have had. I probably wouldn't have had an opinion on my gender and picked 5. Though, I do remember a time when I was jealous of males being able to spread their seed without pregnancy. I think I'm mostly "over it" now.

At one point, I took a brain sex test online. It wasn't a survey, but something that compared you to the average female or male in things such as spacial memory and word usage and whatever-such stuff they measured. I scored somewhere between average male and neutral.

A couple years later I took a gender survey in a psychology class. I scored more on the genderless/male side. So, more of the male stereotypes fit me. But, mostly, none of the traits fit me. I think a lot of this had to do with my social anxiety. ( I've always LOVED cute things. Always was obsessed with emotions and how people feel. I hate most sports. I hate most competition...)

I took the brain sex test again a few months ago. Surprisingly, my results switched around. I scored slightly towards the female end of the scale. I don't know what has changed, aside from my self-esteem and stronger love of "female traits". My self esteem has dropped over the years and must now be in the negatives.

Over the years, I came to love, and feel more comfortable with, being female. I see myself as only part of a whole. I represent part of the female side, but I only happened to be born female. I'm partially responsible for how men are. So, being only part of the whole, hating anything about men is hating something about myself.
There are many things I dislike about masculinity. There are traits that are not found in all males, but that are mostly found in males. Look at the populations of prisons, militaries, etc... So, I have some insecurities here and I wonder if I'd be capable of more 'evils' if I had been born male.

So, how would I feel it if I suddenly woke up male or was forced to transition?

I wouldn't mind having a male body, but the thought of facial hair really bothers me. A lot of women don't like it, including me. I feel bad about it sometimes... A guy can't help that he naturally will have some facial hair and I should be able to like a natural guy.
Maybe it's entirely a cultural thing. Maybe I like femininity and child-like traits too much to like it. I'm really not sure. I have issues with it and I don't even live with facial hair. I imagine I'd have all kinds of upset over it if I was a guy. A penis? Sure. I could do with that just as well as a vagina...
I know it would be more difficult for me to find friends or develop a relationship, but I think I'd have a better chance at getting a job that doesn't require social interaction.

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19 Jul 2012, 6:16 am

DrPenguin wrote:

ToughDiamond wrote:

DrPenguin wrote:

The odd part is that I was wired and my friend supplied all of the words for me

Yup, that's the odd part.
Are you pulling our collective leg?

Nope, he thought it would be interesting to put a camera/microphone/ear piece on me and make me go talk to strange women. Apart from the obvious humor value, he was studying sociology and I think his lab rat died, so had to put someone in the maze and throw cheese at. He wanted someone not that bad looking but not that good with women, also used another mate (stunning good looks but a complete prat) and fed him awkward things to say).

Hmm......I always wanted to be wired, in some or other difficult social situation, though I don't believe in going out on the pull, and even if I did, I'd consider it cheating because it wouldn't be me, and it's difficult enough to sustain the impression I first make on a woman when we've later got a relationship as it is, without making the fall even bigger.

I wouldn't want to parrot out every word like that either, I think that's likely to look weird even if the actual words were gorgeous. I'd want to basically be myself but just have the wire there for backup, for the occasional hint - e.g. "he's fobbing you off there, repeat your request and don't let him get away," or "shut up about string theory now." In films when they wire people, they don't completely take over the subject's every word, they just chip in where it's relevent.

Still, well done for trying. I've often thought something like a wire or just filming myself could solve a lot of the mysteries about how I really look to others. But more of a data collection and post-mortem exercise.

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19 Jul 2012, 6:29 am

I don't think it'd matter all that much whether I was male or female.

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19 Jul 2012, 6:35 am

I think I'd very much like to be a cyborg.

I'm not sure that counts as a gender though. Maybe it could. Mostly, I find a lot of the strictures and expectations surrounding gender and gendered behavior to be nonsensical. I don't want to say I don't get gender, but I don't get a lot of what goes into assumptions about gender. I'm femme, but I like wearing jeans. I don't consider myself to be a woman, but I live with being described as one. I am fairly certain I do not want to be a man, however. Sometimes I kind of wish I could have a body with no gendered markers, but I am unlikely to actually do so. Plus, doing so would be difficult to achieve.

I think it is important to me that people realize I don't consider myself to have a gender. There were times in the past in which I tried to live as if I had one, but that way eventually led to misery. At the same time, I don't want to bother to explain that to most people I spend time around.

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