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23 Jul 2012, 5:08 pm

sorry - got carried away and edited last post after you posted



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23 Jul 2012, 5:09 pm

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How do you know you've got an ASD? I'm not doubting your self-diagnosis, not at all, I'm merely wondering since so many symptoms/traits of different disorders overlap.

I can take myself as an example. I have no idea what I've got. I just know I've got something. Sometimes I'm sure I've got Asperger's and sometimes I think it's utterly ridiculous that I even suspect it. Been reading up on a lot of disorders and from what I've read I could have Asperger's but I could also have Social Anxiety Disorder, Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Depression or Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder. Or all of them. Or some of them. Or none of them. Or something else.

I'm queueing to get assessed. It'll take up to two years to get assessed for ASD and four months or so for something else. So in the meantime; how do you know?
I'm self-diagnosed, but only because I've been waiting a year for CAMHS (Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services) to get back to me with confirmation of my assessment with a Consultant Psychiatrist, which they now have done and I'm now due to have my appointment sometime next month. For this reason, I don't go around telling people I have AS; I just strongly suspect that I do. Although, it is quite possible that I have OCD; though it's quite possible that I could have both because I have both positive and negative obsessions and routines. I also think it's highly unlikely that I have Social Phobia because I can talk to people and I'm not scared to; I just appear extremely awkward, miss social cues, avoid eye contact etc.



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23 Jul 2012, 5:19 pm

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I agree. It's not something I have ever really thought about but it's the way I usually write too. I'll also add that another trait seems to be using a lot of parenthetical phrases in your writing. There was a good thread on it a little while back, but basically what aspies tend to do is have lots of tangential thoughts. This is why our conversations tend to dart and weave when discussing topics we know and love as we want to dump all of that data at once. Thus, we put the extraneous data in parenthesis as we don't quite know how to be concise and to the point. We may want to do that and succeed in doing that in the main body of the writing, but we still need to dump that data somewhere.


Oh I do that a lot when writing. A lot.



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23 Jul 2012, 5:20 pm

social anxiety/phobia is common but not necessarily a feature - especially amongst children - there are many who actively want social contact but their approaches to peers are simply inappropriate because they don't know how to do it appropriately. There are some who could never speak to a group of friends without panicking and others, like my son, who are in their element presenting some research to a hall of students (my son doesn't see faces and so has no connection with the audience, therefore they create no anxiety for him and, as he is whacky and charming, the verbal feedback he gets is usually supportive).



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23 Jul 2012, 5:38 pm

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outofplace wrote:
I agree. It's not something I have ever really thought about but it's the way I usually write too. I'll also add that another trait seems to be using a lot of parenthetical phrases in your writing. There was a good thread on it a little while back, but basically what aspies tend to do is have lots of tangential thoughts. This is why our conversations tend to dart and weave when discussing topics we know and love as we want to dump all of that data at once. Thus, we put the extraneous data in parenthesis as we don't quite know how to be concise and to the point. We may want to do that and succeed in doing that in the main body of the writing, but we still need to dump that data somewhere.


Oh I do that a lot when writing. A lot.
Oh my gosh, I do that a lot, aswell! :o



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23 Jul 2012, 5:45 pm

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rebbieh wrote:
outofplace wrote:
I agree. It's not something I have ever really thought about but it's the way I usually write too. I'll also add that another trait seems to be using a lot of parenthetical phrases in your writing. There was a good thread on it a little while back, but basically what aspies tend to do is have lots of tangential thoughts. This is why our conversations tend to dart and weave when discussing topics we know and love as we want to dump all of that data at once. Thus, we put the extraneous data in parenthesis as we don't quite know how to be concise and to the point. We may want to do that and succeed in doing that in the main body of the writing, but we still need to dump that data somewhere.


Oh I do that a lot when writing. A lot.
Oh my gosh, I do that a lot, aswell! :o


Same here, couldn't live without brackets.



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23 Jul 2012, 5:47 pm

DrPenguin wrote:
KnarlyDUDE09 wrote:
rebbieh wrote:
outofplace wrote:
I agree. It's not something I have ever really thought about but it's the way I usually write too. I'll also add that another trait seems to be using a lot of parenthetical phrases in your writing. There was a good thread on it a little while back, but basically what aspies tend to do is have lots of tangential thoughts. This is why our conversations tend to dart and weave when discussing topics we know and love as we want to dump all of that data at once. Thus, we put the extraneous data in parenthesis as we don't quite know how to be concise and to the point. We may want to do that and succeed in doing that in the main body of the writing, but we still need to dump that data somewhere.


Oh I do that a lot when writing. A lot.
Oh my gosh, I do that a lot, aswell! :o


Same here, couldn't live without brackets.
I'm a brackets AND colons kind of person. :)



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23 Jul 2012, 5:56 pm

I like dashes too!



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23 Jul 2012, 6:00 pm

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I like dashes too!
Ok, with me I shall just say that I 'over-punctuate' and type rather "long-winded" answers; I too, use a lot of dashes. :)

EDIT: I'm not at all surprised that my edit was to add a comma in...



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23 Jul 2012, 6:07 pm

I've got yet another question if that's ok (since we're now talking about different AS traits)? Is it an AS trait to not really be able to control your emotions? I don't really show my feelings (except for showing them to my boyfriend) and I find it hard to express them. Both verbally and physically showing the expressions (at least when it comes to feelings such as joy and thankfulness etc). I've always felt like I've got too much emotion. They don't drastically change between happy and sad etc, but I often feel like I feel too much and I don't really know how to handle it. I also have a hard time identifying my emotions. I know they're often negative but I'm never really sure if it's anxiety, depression or something else.

Sorry if it's a bit off topic.



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23 Jul 2012, 6:22 pm

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I've got yet another question if that's ok (since we're now talking about different AS traits)? Is it an AS trait to not really be able to control your emotions? I don't really show my feelings (except for showing them to my boyfriend) and I find it hard to express them. Both verbally and physically showing the expressions (at least when it comes to feelings such as joy and thankfulness etc). I've always felt like I've got too much emotion. They don't drastically change between happy and sad etc, but I often feel like I've got too much emotion and I don't really know how to handle it. I also feel like I don't understand them. I've got quite a hard time identifying what I feel and why. I often feel a lot of negative feelings but I never know if it's anxiety, depression or something else. Do you know what I mean?
I tend to convey my emotions in a way that differs from what I'm actually feeling for example, I tend to smile when I'm shocked and stim when I'm trying to be serious; so much as I appear to be excited on the outface. Although most of the time I'm sort of 'void' of any emotion- at least of the comprehensible ones; my everyday existence consists of me being in my own world (delved into special interests), although when I'm not doing so I don't seem to be feeling anyway in particular...I'm not sure if you understood that, but from what I understand of your experience is that your experiences are quite similar to mine. So, "Yes" I think I do know what you mean. :)



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23 Jul 2012, 6:25 pm

that's AS but can also be seen in other conditions - downs kids can show similar traits

Some people don't recognise their emotions properly or have some processing delay, particularly with the more subtle ones, and when they do feel them they tend to come on suddenly with little warning, sort of flooding the system in a way that is difficult to manage - I think this may be why meltdowns are so hard to control, if you are suddenly flooded with fear or anger or grief or even some of the more positive emotions you set off adrenaline and hormonal reactions that immediately throw your mind and body off balance.



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23 Jul 2012, 6:26 pm

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I tend to convey my emotions in a way that differs from what I'm actually feeling for example, I tend to smile when I'm shocked and stim when I'm trying to be serious; so much as I appear to be excited on the outface. Although most of the time I'm sort of 'void' of any emotion- at least of the comprehensible ones; my everyday existence consists of me being in my own world (delved into special interests), although when I'm not doing so I don't seem to be feeling anyway in particular...I'm not sure if you understood that, but from what I understand of your experience is that your experiences are quite similar to mine. So, "Yes" I think I do know what you mean. :)


I tend to smile when I'm trying to express feelings such as annoyance or frustration etc. Since I do so people don't take whatever I'm saying seriously, which makes me even more annoyed.

EDIT: When I was a child I didn't really know how to express frustration so I did something my parents refer to as the "Monkey Dance." I used to stand up, move my feet up and down while shaking/flailing my arms. People wouldn't take that seriously either.



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23 Jul 2012, 6:31 pm

zemanski wrote:
that's AS but can also be seen in other conditions - downs kids can show similar traits

Some people don't recognise their emotions properly or have some processing delay, particularly with the more subtle ones, and when they do feel them they tend to come on suddenly with little warning, sort of flooding the system in a way that is difficult to manage - I think this may be why meltdowns are so hard to control, if you are suddenly flooded with fear or anger or grief or even some of the more positive emotions you set off adrenaline and hormonal reactions that immediately throw your mind and body off balance.


Yeah, I feel like such a child sometimes. If I have planned to do something and someone changes my plan for me (by for example taking the car I was supposed to use etc) I get so full of emotions. I get disappointed and angry and all I want to do is hit something or cry. And I'm almost 22 years old.



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23 Jul 2012, 6:33 pm

I probably have some difficulty in showing my emotions, but most people can figure me out. I am a fairly talkative person in real life (and by the looks of my post count, online too! :lol: ) and so when this stops, people always ask me what's wrong. The thing is though, no one can tell if I am just a little off at that moment or so sad I am thinking of ending my life. I also have had times when I felt happy and people thought I was sad. Likewise, I don't always know how to label emotions and know how bad off I am when depressed. Sometimes I will confuse depression and anxiety, for example. I also tend to think my emotions are a bit stronger than normal as I seem to get overly emotional in some situations that most people seem to handle better. Yet at other times, I feel nothing when I know I should feel something strong and intense. It may be that the years upon years of depression have blunted my emotions and that it has nothing to do with autism, or it may be that I have always been this way and don't realize it or want to admit it to myself.


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23 Jul 2012, 6:38 pm

another female trait not seen so much in men - smiling. It puts others at ease and makes them feel demands are not being made of them. We learn very young that we get more favourable responses if we smile but don't really get into the more subtle expressions too easily so when we're trying to express something we feel is difficult we can smile inappropriately because we are simultaneously trying to not make such a big deal and trying to reassure ourselves and others that we aren't making emotional demands when really we need to - sort of apologetic in form - the smile is all we have to do it with. For many women on the spectrum, and a few men, it is the default expression - it helps us hide from unwanted scrutiny and having to explain our emotional state when we often don't really know what that is. It's very useful if you want to blend into the background - one look and everyone can see you're "ok". It becomes a habit and, like all habits, it is not always appropriate.