I pray to God that all NT's shall die immediatly

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No, we're not. I was just expanding on the wrong planet analogy. What's a stranger in a strange land to do? Kill all the indiginous life to be more comfortable? I prefer to continue to try to better understand the local common language and customs. I don't think I try to fit in as much as I try to make the locals feel like I fit in.

I want the world to end. I want people to suffer for their sin. I wish everyone goes to hell including me.

While i appreciate what you're saying and that trying to fit in can make things easier (for you or others, you be the judge) and i see merit to the "when in Rome" theory, i still feel that these adjustments could be mutual. Like people trying to be respectful of immigrants culture, language and tolerating their religious differences.

I guess i feel like if i am going to make an effort to fit in, thereby reducing the amount of strife and conflict that could take place, then others should also make an effort, otherwise what's the point?

It's all well and good me respecting other people beliefs and opinions, but if they refuse to reciprocate, where does that leave me, my effort has been wasted?

I do not have a problem with everyone getting along, i just have a problem with the people that refuse and spoil it for everyone.

I can't beleive i'm going to say this, but i can not think of a more obvious example right now, but look at Jesus, whether the story about him is hypothetical or not it the example seems appropriate. According to the Bible, Jesus healed the sick, preached love and understanding and respect for others, and look what happened to him, he still got crucified.

(Note: I am not religious and have very little knowledge of any religions, so if i offend you or have completely misconstrued the situation, sorry).

I'm tending to agree with MrMark, but fitting in, for me, is simply not an option. I've tried, but I can't make it work at all. For anybody that can do it, it sounds to me like a good idea.

Ignoring the moral issues of genocide, which is a pretty big thing to ignore, aspies are just a little bit outnumbered, so genocide is obviously not an option. If we're going to say, "I wish...", how about, I wish males respected me and women found me attractive, or maybe, I wish I could fly. It's about as realistic.

I'm not sure aspies have a culture. Sure, we've got an internet forum, but chinese immigrants actually spend time with other chinese people, and deaf people hang out and enjoy experiences with other deaf people. Does a bunch of people sitting alone typing on a computer constitute a culture?

On the internet I'm as good as anybody else, but in the real world, most people intensely dislike me immediately, and the rest respond with only mild distaste and contempt. I'm not at all certain that aspies would be any different if they actually had to be around me.

I don't understand people who think that educating others will bring aspies more respect. Other than the obsessive interests, the most fundamental characteristic of asperger's is that it makes the aspie behave in a way that generates disrespect in the people around them.

Aspies all over the world report the same kinds of problems. I don't think education will change human nature.

Anything anybody can do that makes their life better, I say, do it. I don't value my uniqueness. I've got nothing to value. Asperger's totally sucks, for me anyway.

No just alot of people with AS have comorbit personality disorders. The orginal poster
is on the deep end of paranoid and his points should be ignored by us but not his local
mental health center.

Yes, but those with ears have heard, so to speak. He made quite an impression on a lot of people over the years and continues to do so. Many people on this site have told me that they feel the things I say fall on deaf ears. They're right, there are many deaf ears out there. I'm not going to allow their impaired ears to impair my voice. There are ears that hear.

Forget it.

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As for dictators, MOST apparantly wanted outright control. Hitler originally apparantly wanted revenge. He saw the jewish people as having created all of his problems, and the circle of enemies was increased around that. Hitler was certainly no aspie! There is evidence to show he was a sexual pervert, and probably had parkinsons and maybe syphillus, but NONE of the autistic traits. If you happen to ntice one of his hands shaking, it wasn't a stim. Look closely. It has been used to help support the claim of parkinsons, which is supported by other evidence.

I doubt dktekno REALLY has aspergers. Aspergers isn't supposed to make you STUPID, etc... Also, I don't know about YOU guys but at least earlier on, it was AMAZING what I put up with. I knew about better than 80% of it. YEARS later I could replay it. Yet I still put up with it. ALSO, I am not dumb enough to believe ANYONE has the whole story, etc... or that AS people will side with me any more than NT people. If I had a way to seperate out the two groups, or make one socially more like the other(hopefully NTs more like AS), I would HAPPILY at least suggest it. Otherwise, I think I would just not do anything.

Steve

Steve

Okay, Jesus didn’t heal the sick, preach love and understanding and respect for others for his own sake. It wasn’t about “fair return.” Yes, he got himself crucified, but he also changed the world.

And yes, I feel that it’s naïve to think that life is supposed to be fair. After all, if life were fair, things would be… different. Expecting that life is going to be fair just leads to disappointment. You can talk about how it should be all you want. It is what it is.

The point is that you benefit from reduced strife and conflict. Yours is the only behavior you can control. Others may benefit too. That’s only a problem if you’re keeping score.

Thats why i like this place. Simple honesty. Wanting to kill everyone is crazy!!

I think i didn't articulate my point very well.

What i meant was that if i can modify my behaviour to reduce strife, then so can other people, but as i alredy said, i'm not going to cut off my nose to spite my face, i am not going to be deliberately provocative and i am going to try and fit in, even if others are not going to make the same effort, and even if i am still going to get called the "weird girl", what i am not going to do is make so much of an effort that i become unwell, i've been there and i am not about to do that again.

I am not keping score, and i am not saying that others should, i am expressing my desire for everyone to respect and tolerate others, even though i know that realistically it is impossible.

What i meant by the whole "Jesus" thing, and i am really wishing i hadn't used it now, as many things associated with religion, including the word itself, make me uncomfortable, anyway, what i was trying to demonstrate, albeit badly, was that no matter how nice you are, or how much you try to fit in, there are always going to be people who have a problem with you, whether it is your beliefs or something that is beyond you're control.

Thanks, we love you too. 'Preciate the nice thoughts.

Yeah, nor should you. I've been there too. I've learned that I don't have to give up my fundamental identity to get along.


Yes, there are. I figured that out a long time ago. I decided that I was going to be the person that I wanted to be, the best version of myself that I could figure out how to be, which coincidently is someone most people think is a real nice guy once they get past the surface. Of course there are always going to be people who have a problem with me. There's nothing I can do about that. It doesn't matter what other people think, I'm still okay with who I am, and that what really matters.

Hitler was also very paranoid, and, towards the end of World War II, was beginning to think that he could trust nobody. And most of his trembling started after the failed plot to kill him on July 20, 1944.

Yeah, some of the evidence of parkinsins is that he started out with both hands showing, and NO trembling. Later, he tried to hide it, but it can still be seen if you look closely. It got worse. He was being treated with drugs consistant with the diagnosis. Some writen doctors reports support it.

Steve

I think its a bit unfair to attack the original poster like that.

I know every one of you have had an angry humanity hating moment at least once in your life so dont be hipocritical.