I was called a killer today due to having autism.

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05 Jan 2013, 8:38 pm

The media loves to glorify anything that comes their way. The Internet makes it more worse.

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05 Jan 2013, 10:06 pm

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I have my own two cents to share on this and I warn you all, it's not optimistic in the least:

This massacre has pretty much put the nail in the coffin on the reputation of Autism, which as already on life support prior to the shootings.

While there is a kernel of truth to this, the American public (as a herd mentality) also has about a 5 second attention span. They tend to believe whatever is in front of their face at the moment. I have an idea to take advantage of this, but it will take several days to work it out privately IRL.

That's what I thought would be the case for Muslim persecution after 9/11, let over 11 years later and here we are. It's a sad irony that the hysteria behind 9/11 outlived the embracing of American pride that quickly came after.

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05 Jan 2013, 10:18 pm

The guy that stereotyped you as a barbaric murderer just because you have autism is a complete j@ck@$$. I'm just disgusted by some of the people in our society; people who attack interracial and homosexual couples, and people who stereotype Muslims as terrorists, and NOW Auties and Aspies as murderers. I can't imagine how an innocuous Autistic person would massacre tons of people in one setting. I'm so glad that dbag didn't even lay a finger on you.

Try to walk with a friend or a family member in case he re-encounters you in the future.

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05 Jan 2013, 10:21 pm

I would advise this as well, he might cross your path again and who knows, he could be aggressive next time if he meant it serious and not as a "joke" (was an awfully bad joke, honestly).

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05 Jan 2013, 11:01 pm

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In almost any other country this man would not even be allowed to roam about freely. The US has possibly the lowest human forms of life on the entire planet. Semi-intelligent rocks are higher up on the food chain.

Speaking of which some woman who brutally murdered her ex-boyfriend by shooting and stabbing him so many times the entire bathroom was soaked in his blood over a year ago is finally on trial, and I KNOW she'll be the next Casey Anthony and allowed to roam free. Autistic people are being treating like the plague while this happens I HATE THE US I HATE IT I FREAKING HATE SO MUCH IT HURTS ALL OVER MY BODY IT THEY ARE ALL FILTHY SOBS AND CAN DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! :wall:

THEY ARE ALL FILTHY SOBS Wow saying that about everybody in the US. What is the difference between your statement and the OP? Well the way I see it not much. Didn't you stereotype just like stupid man did? Have you become the thing you hate?
PS not trying to be insulting just wanted some questions answered.

Lostonearth35 is completely overreacting and being unfair because he is (rightfully) upset, but I can understand why he feels anger towards the USA. Generally, Autistic people are not treated with an acceptable amount of dignity and respect. Examples of this would be:

* The JRC.

* The underpublicised case of Shane Finn.

* Corrupt "advocacy" organisations.

None of the above goes on here in the UK. The JRC is a disgusting establishment which advocates physical and emotional abuse, starvation, total control, and downright torture of Autistic people. Would this be allowed in the UK? Hell no.

The case of Shane Finn was a case in which a fourteen year old Lower-Functioning Autistic with the IQ of a third grader drew a childish, TRIVIALstick-figure drawing of himself shooting his teacher in a "special needs" class purely out of boredom. The teacher's reaction? To expel him from the school and call the police who went on to have him charged as a f***ing terrorist and be forced to attend a government tribunal! Strangely enough, the media hasn't breathed a word about the result of said tribunal. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the poor boy and his mother were illegally executed.

In the UK, this would be dealt with via a clear and informative lecture, explaining exactly why the behaviour is unacceptable, and offering strategies as to what he could do instead. Not with charges of f***ing terrorism.

Autism Speaks is often cited as our number one advocacy organisation, even though the vast majority of Autistics hold a very low opinion of them. There are a couple in England and Wales, but in Scotland, as far as I'm aware, there are no big organisations like this at all.

I apologise for slightly derailing this thread, but the general wellbeing of American (or should that be European immigrants?) Autistics is always a worry to me.

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B9, I'm tired, and this post is already far longer than I originally intended it to be, which is why I'm not going to respond properly right now. Also, I don't really think people who're willing to just lie back and take this mass discrimination as it comes are even worthy of a response.

Yes I did hear about Shane Finn it angered me too. The organisations I have no opinion on, never delt with them. No need to apologise wasn't a derailment is was on topic it was on how people make ignorant generalized statements. That would be American. I immigrated from New York to Colorado.

Thank you for your concern.

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07 Jan 2013, 9:00 pm

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All I can say is "This is now being looked in to." :wink:

I am not that upset over this. I have had way way more bad stuff happen to me in my life then this.

I did go back that way today to the gas station. and all was good on the way there and back.

Sounds like a good step.

And it's a good thing that you're not afraid. :sunny:

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07 Jan 2013, 9:30 pm

If we look at 40 years ago, most people thought gay and lesbian people were either 'neurotic,' 'unstable,' 'troubled' or some such similar nonsense.

And now, most people are okay with a person being gay or lesbian, and think it's no big deal. There are exceptions, people with their own issues or people with specific religious beliefs, but the majority of people are just fine with gay persons having the same rights as everyone else.

What if, looking into the future, the majority of people are okay with a person being on the Asperger's-Autism Spectrum? And think, okay, the person might have sensory issues, might need more downtime, might be different, and that's fine. The person still probably has a lot to contribute if we just might them halfway.

So, gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered persons talked about famous people who were likely to be gay or lesbian (like Alexander the Great, Leonardo De Vinci, Walt Whitman) and at the same time encouraging people when ready to come out of the closet. This two-fold approach seems to be powerful.

We have famous people---like Thomas Jefferson, Jane Austen, Nikola Tesla, Bertrand Russell---who may well have been on the Asperger's-Autism Spectrum.

Now, a cautionary note, I have not had real good results coming out of the closet and telling people I am on the Spectrum. People's reaction seem to be, I must be crazy since I am "obviously" not autistic since I can talk! (And I talk a lot, I may even have higher than average verbal skills, but I can easily get into a mode of all sending-no receiving.) I have just begun to experiment (like two times total) with asking people if they've heard that autism is a spectrum and then immediately moving onto sensory issues.

So, it's a series of personal decisions, who to come out to, at what pace. And I think we should respect the fact that people will go about this differently.

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08 Jan 2013, 2:56 am

Assuming this is true, that idiot is not fit to walk the streets.

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08 Jan 2013, 3:44 am

... Here. Have some arbitrary sympathy... *gives arbitrary sympathy*

...... now get over it. People are idiots. That is all there is to it.

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08 Jan 2013, 9:20 am

As horrible as it sounds, I think that whole post was hilarious.This guy sounds really insane and I get this image in my head of his getting all red in the fact and shaking with rage. I mean how exactly do you see a guy buying soda at a gas station, see that he has an autism awareness sticker and immediately come to the conclusion that he's a killer? And while I don't doubt that those who use wheelchairs are able in many ways, I can't recall the last time someone in a power wheelchair was shooting up a school. Has that ever happened?

I hope you're okay after all of that. You could probably report him to the police after he followed you home. What a creepy weirdo.

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08 Jan 2013, 12:09 pm

Sorry that happened to you,I would have been so scared.

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11 Jan 2013, 5:50 pm

Magnanimous wrote:

... Here. Have some arbitrary sympathy... *gives arbitrary sympathy*

...... now get over it. People are idiots. That is all there is to it.

I seriously cannot believe some of these replies that I am reading. A handicapped man gets harassed and threatened on the street by someone motivated by hate and ignorance and you're advice is that he should just get over it? This is not something that is just going to go away by treating the whole thing like a bad joke. If that had been me that were threatened I wouldn't be taking this lightly. In all honesty I'm holding back the urge to drive to Kansas city find this guy and beat him silly with a 2x4. He thinks we're killers yet it's completely ok for him to treat people the way he does? How will ignoring him stop the hate when people clearly don't care to be educaed outside of their television screen?

Hey I got a great idea. Let's tell the Jews that they should get over Hitler wanting to kill them all. That's a great mentality to have.

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14 Jan 2013, 2:22 pm

The ignorance of people in America is beyond belief. :roll: For a country with millions of people on the internet it's unbelievable.

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21 Jan 2013, 10:54 pm

I'm so sorry that happened to you.

It's just disgusting....and now after the shooting others are trying to say that autistic people are violent and dangerous. It's a bunch of BS! No one truly knows whether or not the shooter was an Aspie and why does it matter? What difference does that make?

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