They want to abolish Aspergers diagnosis!

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I see no point in caring so much about a label being abolished in the next DSM.
I sill meet the criteria for the DSM V, according to what my shrink says.
That's all. I'll just be "HFA and ADHD-C" instead of "AS and ADHD-C". It won't change much.

Precisely.

In any case, I'm going to continue to rely on the guidance of my doctors and the experts, not the unqualified opinions of anonymous online posters.

I would suggest everyone else does the same when it comes to their diagnosis.

I fall out of it - but nothing changes

the UK uses ICD more

I made no such claim. I said the fact that it was closed door was disappointing. I did mention the research linked on the "rationale" page that was available for anyone to read, however, and I agreed with that rationale.



I am not "self important" and I have no idea what "self-insistent" is supposed to mean. However, I have not read anything anywhere about conflict of interest issues you bring up in relation to the shift to ASD. I have seen valid conflict of interest concerns mentioned in relation to other diagnoses, but I am not going to assume they are universal.



I am not spiteful, ignorant, or bitter, nor am I self-hating. I have been watching the DSM-5 process for a few years now, and I am trying to reconcile what I know with what you are claiming.



This appears to be a spiteful, bitter, and ignorant statement. I do not know whether it is self-hating, but "doesn't agree with answeraspergers" is a terrible criteria for establishing whether someone is an "idiot" or not.

Anyway, carry on with your whinging about how the AS criteria are changing. I am certain that will convince others of the validity of your complaints. Most especially when it appears that you are simply producing complaints ex nihilo with no facts to back them up.

I think you made a claim regarding the workings of the panel. I could quote it but I hate that.

Everyone was the cue word not to talk that too personally. Sorry you did.

PS. Its the same panel in the same organisation.

When you include everyone why should she feel excluded?

I kinda like your blog but feel free to f**k off at any time. You're on an ASD forum where people have a vast range of abilities and challenges. Your surprise at people being self-important is very surprising to me considering these are people who have difficulty connecting to the external because of their condition. I think the word you were looking for was self-righteous, I don't know wtf self-insistent means. You certainly display self-importance, self-righteousness and lack of empathy. I don't know why you hold people to higher standards than you hold yourself.

"everyone" is rather meaningless language I admit - certain posters would have been better wording.

Im not surprised but i do have general contempt for ego. There will be no change whilst it rages.

You certainly display self-importance, self-righteousness and lack of empathy. I don't know why you hold people to higher standards than you hold yourself.

I disagree but..............invariably observing ego is not perfect.

Yeah, I pretty much gave up.

I'm getting tired of people blubbering over being identified as "autistic" as opposed the ever-so-superior "Aspergers." I originally went to a doctor because I was in a dark place and needed help, not because I wanted a fancy label that told the world I was an "eccentric genius." They could call it "Wuzzle-Woozle Disease" for all I care as long as I get the support I need. Who knew people were so terribly proud of a friggen mental disorder.

Sheesh.

So far, the only valid concern I've heard is Rascal77's.

That is profoundly bizarre and assuming

That AS got some cred with house and big bang is not something to rage about.

you gave up long after me

PS Im glad you get the support you need and I hope you are no longer in a dark place. My motivation for dx is rather wide of the mark to say the least.

The only thing I wrote was this:



This is not a claim regarding the workings of the panel, but the statement that an observation about how the panel works does not itself demonstrate ignorance or lack of ethics. I also said it was disagreeable - in other words, I don't like it either.



Responding to and commenting on what you wrote is not the same thing as taking it personally. I am not sure why you'd make a comment about "arguing with idiots" when responding to a specific person, however, without intending some kind of insult. I try to be careful to avoid such statements because I do not care to insult people in that manner.

I don't really get it either. I am autistic, whether someone chooses to tell me it's autism, PDD-NOS, or Asperger's Syndrome, I'm still autistic. While I do dislike that autism tends to carry negative connotations as a label, my problem isn't whether or not I am labeled with it, but the way anyone with that label is treated because of that label.

This, I agree completely. He obviously has an emotional attachment to the term Asperger's.

His baseless argument confirms this.

It's hard to explain, and impossible to quantify. People with asperger syndrome are more with it socially, for one. You can actually converse with them. People with autism seem much more oblivious. I could be wrong, but I REALLY don't think I am. This I've seen time and again.

You guys often argue in the same self-referential ego based clueless manner.

no emotion.

the argument is far from baseless.

I just choose who i debate with and the merits thereof.

Verdandi - that is not the only thing u said - i cant be bothered to argue at this level to be honest - u claimed the panel had specific submissions. I understand your IQ is immense - you do know what you posted and can see it and read it. Im not spoon feeding.

You make mass assumptions that are not true. My post was not just "responding to a specific person" the term everyone again indicates that. I was not trying to inflame a specific poster but I did over generalise.

I quoted it because that quote was both amusing and relevant. It is a quote of some relevance to the standard and merits of the "debate".This really is like pulling teeth.

Basically - those not affected support or dont care. These who are - oppose and do care.

With regards the differences - look at the presentation of extreme autism and someone with a high AQ

They could not be more different

To oversimplify into one condition is laughable.