Handing out "I LOVE YOU" cards at my college

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23 Feb 2014, 2:09 am

Oh yeah. You'd have to come to the realization (in my world it is a realization) that the "mythology" of Jesus and the Church and the whole thing occurred in history and is, therefore, reality. Actually, that's the whole point of the Gospels, to show that this Jesus really lived among us in time.

So yes, you'd have to believe, otherwise you'd be miserable. 8O

What's funny about me is that I believe EVERYTHING. I had a religious experience in college which basically changed my brain in an instant from being an atheist to being a Catholic.

Do you want to know what I was doing when this happened? Well.....I was folding laundry.

It was weird.



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23 Feb 2014, 2:16 am

Now you have to tell me what happened.



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23 Feb 2014, 2:35 am

In a pm, maybe. Or I'll send you a CD of my conversion story. :)



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23 Feb 2014, 2:56 am

Either one is fine with me.



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23 Feb 2014, 3:16 am

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Well can't there be some sort of thing to say to make it not sound creepy?


Dude, as someone who apparently lives half in the NT world, I'll tell you right now, there is NO way to walk up to strangers saying "I Love You" and have it come off as normal.

DROP THIS IDEA, as pretty much everyone else has said.

I have limited skills at making friends and forming relationships, but even I know your idea is NOT the way to do it.

You DO risk...SERIOUSLY...scaring people or getting physically hurt if you go thru with this. Plus, it's going to have maybe LONG lasting negative effects on your life.

Just DON'T.

Unless you're pulling our legs, this idea you have is proof you're a little lacking in life experience. You may also be are giving proof to the idea that many on the spectrum tend to be younger emotionally than they are in years.

If you want to find a way to make friends, this isn't how. Not that I've ever been able to do it this way, but you could try some hobby group that does something together you think you might be interested in. Even meet with a school counselor and tell them what you had in mind, see what they say, and ask for alternatives.

Just don't give strangers cards that say "I Love You".

It's only asking for trouble.


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23 Feb 2014, 6:39 am

I realize that I'm simply another user echoing reasons why you shouldn't go through with your plan, but I'm going to elaborate anyway:

I know it would be nice if NTs were more appreciative of our quirky gestures. I understand that you conceived this idea with your best intentions in mind.

But as someone who has committed numerous social mishaps, what may seem like a great idea now will have been disastrous in hindsight. NTs don't have the same notions how to appropriately approach people, and since they vastly outnumber people like us, their ideas define social rules. This means that in order to interact with them properly, we must follow their rules. The stigma isn't worth it, and neither will the reminder of it be. It can have a tremendous negative effect on your self-esteem and your ability to socialize.

Bottom line, don't do this to yourself.


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23 Feb 2014, 4:02 pm

Sethno wrote:
StuffedMarshmallow wrote:
Well can't there be some sort of thing to say to make it not sound creepy?


Dude, as someone who apparently lives half in the NT world, I'll tell you right now, there is NO way to walk up to strangers saying "I Love You" and have it come off as normal...

I know, but what if I told them "hey man, I have a secret message for you on this card and it is a really special message" and THEN hand them the "I LOVE YOU" card and THEN tell them I love them? I think if I did it in that order, it would be fine. And I honestly don't want this to be "normal", I want this to be memoriable and sincere, something they will be thinking about all day.
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?..As someone who has committed numerous social mishaps, what may seem like a great idea now will have been disastrous in hindsight. NTs don't have the same notions how to appropriately approach people, and since they vastly outnumber people like us, their ideas define social rules. This means that in order to interact with them properly, we must follow their rules. The stigma isn't worth it, and neither will the reminder of it be. It can have a tremendous negative effect on your self-esteem and your ability to socialize.

Bottom line, don't do this to yourself.

I'm pretty sure people already think I'm weird, it's not like I really have anything to lose here. And I decided I'm only going to do this to maybe 12 people and if it goes well I'll keep going with it. And I think by the sixth person I hand this card too I will have a good understanding of how to do this correctly.



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23 Feb 2014, 4:25 pm

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... it's not like I really have anything to lose here.


Maybe your front teeth?

Report back after you've tried this ill judged adventure. I'm curious to know just how badly it goes.


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23 Feb 2014, 4:44 pm

StuffedMarshmallow wrote:
Sethno wrote:
StuffedMarshmallow wrote:
Well can't there be some sort of thing to say to make it not sound creepy?


Dude, as someone who apparently lives half in the NT world, I'll tell you right now, there is NO way to walk up to strangers saying "I Love You" and have it come off as normal...

I know, but what if I told them "hey man, I have a secret message for you on this card and it is a really special message" and THEN hand them the "I LOVE YOU" card and THEN tell them I love them? I think if I did it in that order, it would be fine. And I honestly don't want this to be "normal", I want this to be memoriable and sincere, something they will be thinking about all day.
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?..As someone who has committed numerous social mishaps, what may seem like a great idea now will have been disastrous in hindsight. NTs don't have the same notions how to appropriately approach people, and since they vastly outnumber people like us, their ideas define social rules. This means that in order to interact with them properly, we must follow their rules. The stigma isn't worth it, and neither will the reminder of it be. It can have a tremendous negative effect on your self-esteem and your ability to socialize.

Bottom line, don't do this to yourself.

I'm pretty sure people already think I'm weird, it's not like I really have anything to lose here. And I decided I'm only going to do this to maybe 12 people and if it goes well I'll keep going with it. And I think by the sixth person I hand this card too I will have a good understanding of how to do this correctly.


As every poster has said, this is a truly terrible idea. You have nothing to gain and a multitude of things to lose (which have been accurately listed by other posters). The absolute best outcome is merely being laughed at. It will go downhill from there.

There is no way to do this correctly because you shouldn't do it.



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23 Feb 2014, 4:57 pm

You guys are starting to convince me you're right, maybe he should just stay inside his room stuck to this website writing post after post about how lonely he is and nobody will talk to him and he doesn't have any place to go. Why take a chance on anything when he can just hide and cry instead?



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23 Feb 2014, 5:08 pm

StuffedMarshmallow wrote:
If I filmed it, it wouldn't be as personal. I want this to be a true showing of love, not just a way for me to get views on YouTube. People wouldn't act like they normally would if I filmed it, and I'm afraid if people did want to become friends with me, it would be because of me filming this instead of me handing out the "I LOVE YOU" cards.


It's impossible for this to be a "true showing of love", you do not and cannot love these people because you do not know them. You may find upon getting to know them that you don't even like them, so no matter what you do, you will never be able to express real "love" to these people, and if you did feel that way about total strangers, that would be way creepier than the card thing.


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23 Feb 2014, 5:09 pm

wozeree wrote:
You guys are starting to convince me you're right, maybe he should just stay inside his room stuck to this website writing post after post about how lonely he is and nobody will talk to him and he doesn't have any place to go. Why take a chance on anything when he can just hide and cry instead?


We're warning him against his plan because we don't want him to hide and cry. We just want him to learn more acceptable ways of approaching people.


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23 Feb 2014, 6:52 pm

a_dork wrote:
wozeree wrote:
You guys are starting to convince me you're right, maybe he should just stay inside his room stuck to this website writing post after post about how lonely he is and nobody will talk to him and he doesn't have any place to go. Why take a chance on anything when he can just hide and cry instead?


We're warning him against his plan because we don't want him to hide and cry. We just want him to learn more acceptable ways of approaching people.

The thing is I don't want to use "acceptable" ways of approaching people because then I'll get dull, uninteresting people as friends. I want exciting people who would actually be willing to hand out "I LOVE YOU" cards as my friends, so if they refuse the cards and laugh at me it's their loss, right? :?



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23 Feb 2014, 7:09 pm

StuffedMarshmallow wrote:
a_dork wrote:
wozeree wrote:
You guys are starting to convince me you're right, maybe he should just stay inside his room stuck to this website writing post after post about how lonely he is and nobody will talk to him and he doesn't have any place to go. Why take a chance on anything when he can just hide and cry instead?


We're warning him against his plan because we don't want him to hide and cry. We just want him to learn more acceptable ways of approaching people.

The thing is I don't want to use "acceptable" ways of approaching people because then I'll get dull, uninteresting people as friends. I want exciting people who would actually be willing to hand out "I LOVE YOU" cards as my friends, so if they refuse the cards and laugh at me it's their loss, right? :?


I do understand that you want to use this as a screening process. However I still think it's a very bad idea. You are going with the assumption that the sort of people who would be compatible friends with you are also the sort of people who would befriend a stranger who handed them an "I Love You" card. This is not a reasonable assumption. Like it or not, saying "I love you" to total strangers is considered an act of mild sexual aggression. The people most likely to respond positively to that are quite possibly a little sexually aggressive themselves. Are you sure you want that?

If you are absolutely determined to hand out cards to strangers, an upbeat but neutral expression would be a safer choice. "Have a great day" might be a better choice. Or perhaps no words at all, just a nice picture of a smiley face or stars or something nice but neutral.



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23 Feb 2014, 7:20 pm

Well one way or another, he certainly got people riled up.



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23 Feb 2014, 7:20 pm

Janissy wrote:
...I do understand that you want to use this as a screening process. However I still think it's a very bad idea. You are going with the assumption that the sort of people who would be compatible friends with you are also the sort of people who would befriend a stranger who handed them an "I Love You" card. This is not a reasonable assumption. Like it or not, saying "I love you" to total strangers is considered an act of mild sexual aggression...

Okay, I understand, what if I only hand these to people who I know a little? I don't want to hand these out to people I know a lot, but what if I have talked to them and have had mild conversations with them, to the point that they know I'm not a sexually aggressive person? If I could somehow let them know I'm not a sexually aggressive person and THEN hand them the card that would be all good, right?