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25 Apr 2007, 8:28 pm

I would like to put in a question:


If you take the existence of God as an absolute truth. Then God can do and create anything, right?

So can he create a stone that is heavier than he can lift?


If he can then he can't lift it and if he can't well then he can' create everything.


I myself do not believe in God. I have my own invented religion. Close to the Gaia-theory. But i am really afraid that he do exist. Because if he does then the devil might exist, and I would then have a one way ticket to Hell for not believing.


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25 Apr 2007, 8:37 pm

You'd have your self-respect, though.



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25 Apr 2007, 8:50 pm

I just sort of let all religions slide past my face because theyre boring and cant improve my life.



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25 Apr 2007, 9:02 pm

Answering the original question--
Atheist, but agree with Zen beliefs. Atheism can be a strong belief, but that doesn't make it a religion. We're not worshipping no-god as our god.



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25 Apr 2007, 9:19 pm

Flagg wrote:
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Atheist.

Prove the existence of a God.


Disprove it, you do realize atheism is a belief structure just like any other.

For that matter prove the existance of George Washington, see my previous post about Ben Franklin and Fahreinheit 451.


Disprove the existance of her invisible pinkness and evil lawn gnomes with phasers.

Inability to disprove is no reason to believe.


But inability to prove is no reason not to believe either (ack, double negative). It works both ways.


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25 Apr 2007, 11:39 pm

DingoDv wrote:
But, if I ever need to have a belief (such as to be a Scout Leader in the UK - they accept homosexuality on the books, accept every religion, disability (if the adult is capable of looking after children at least) - but they do not accept athesist or agnostics!)


That's lame. They don't even accept homosexuality in the U.S. though.



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26 Apr 2007, 2:28 am

I'm an atheist and proud of it.



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26 Apr 2007, 2:32 am

I'm a pagan.

That's a wonderfully ambiguous term that can mean anything you want it to mean - there's as many different kinds of contemporary paganism as there are practitioners, from hardcore Greek or Roman reconstructionists with degrees in ancient history, to New Agers who grab a bit from here and a bit from there, mix up a Celtic god with a Roman Goddess and a Native American ritual they read in a magazine. (I personally don't like the latter, I think it shows disrespect to jumble things up together like that without researching them, but if it works for others, they're welcome to it.)

If I had to pick a definitive category to describe myself, I'd probably be a Celtic reconstructionist. But there are things I believe which I know don't gel with that tradition - like the idea that all the different deities are ultimately representations of the one entity. I don't presume to know what that entity is, and wouldn't even go so far as to call it a being. I recognise that my belief system's one of many, and no more or less true than any other, it's just the philosophical template I happened to choose as the interface between me and the divine. I enjoy the research, the rituals and the myths and legends.

And no, that doesn't mean I belive there really are Gods and Goddesses sitting up in the clouds drinking wine and chucking thunderbolts around, any more than Christians believe God is physically sitting up there in a geographically definable place called Heaven, looking just the way he's described in the bible when he handed over the commandments. As far as 'commandments' and rules for living, I just go by the one Ultimate Commandment (also called the Wiccan Rede and lots of other names):
Harm None

Think about it, it really does cover everything, doesn't it?



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26 Apr 2007, 3:07 am

Ragtime wrote:
RedMage wrote:
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Atheist, looking into Solipsism.


What's Solipsism?


Solipsism is the belief that only your own mind and thoughts are real, and that the rest of the universe is not.


That's what I've always more or less been.
Can't see why anyone would proselytize it
though. Or even really try and explain it
enough to give it a name. It would seem
to be a case of someone outside the belief
labeling it.



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26 Apr 2007, 4:34 am

I'm just playing 'catch-up' here. As Christian sects go, the Methodist church has been the least-offensive I've been to. When I say I'm agnostic leaning toward atheist, I do mean it, and I'm not expecting, in the case of the existence of a deity/deities, that I'd get a 'free pass' for not having proclaimed myself atheist. I just don't feel there's strong proof one way or another, and so have declared myself Neutral, in terms of my own life. I do have a very strong sense of morals, and one of the things that I think drove me away from religion is all the idiocy and malicious behavior that is performed in the name of (pick a religion). But I'm a strong believer in freedom of religion, which means I expect people to respect my point of view, and I'll respect theirs.

There, that's my current Manifesto :lol:



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26 Apr 2007, 8:48 am

TrishC7 wrote:
I'm just playing 'catch-up' here. As Christian sects go, the Methodist church has been the least-offensive I've been to. When I say I'm agnostic leaning toward atheist, I do mean it, and I'm not expecting, in the case of the existence of a deity/deities, that I'd get a 'free pass' for not having proclaimed myself atheist. I just don't feel there's strong proof one way or another, and so have declared myself Neutral, in terms of my own life. I do have a very strong sense of morals, and one of the things that I think drove me away from religion is all the idiocy and malicious behavior that is performed in the name of (pick a religion). But I'm a strong believer in freedom of religion, which means I expect people to respect my point of view, and I'll respect theirs.

There, that's my current Manifesto :lol:


It seems like if you treat other people as well as you can, and you just honestly can't come to the conclusion that God exists, hopefully he'll be fine with you anyway if he does, you know what I mean? I mean I really hope that. It's not like my currently not-super-strong faith is because I'm a bad person or like rejecting a good God who I know for a fact exists.



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26 Apr 2007, 9:08 am

Laser wrote:
I'm an atheist and proud of it.


I'm a Christian, and humble of it.


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26 Apr 2007, 9:31 am

Ragtime wrote:
Laser wrote:
I'm an atheist and proud of it.


I'm a Christian, and humble of it.


I guess we're both pretty refreshing for our respective group, then… ;)



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26 Apr 2007, 9:32 am

Ragtime wrote:
Laser wrote:
I'm an atheist and proud of it.


I'm a Christian, and humble of it.

:roll:



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26 Apr 2007, 10:01 am

0_equals_true wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Laser wrote:
I'm an atheist and proud of it.


I'm a Christian, and humble of it.

:roll:


I cherished diversities. I think it's great that we have people from many different religious and cultural backgrounds.



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26 Apr 2007, 10:15 am

eDad wrote:
0_equals_true wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Laser wrote:
I'm an atheist and proud of it.


I'm a Christian, and humble of it.

:roll:


I cherished diversities. I think it's great that we have people from many different religious and cultural backgrounds.

I was responding to how he addressed himself. Holier than though. Well that is what it seemed like anyway.