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15 Sep 2016, 9:11 am

I just don't find autism to be a disease, in the sense that something like pneumonia is a disease.

I don't find that most autistic people "suffer" from it (though some, unfortunately, do suffer greatly from it).

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15 Sep 2016, 9:26 am

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I have a genuine question for those against saying ASD (no sarcasm or other insult intended toward anyone).

Is your issue really with saying autism is a disorder, or is it about admitting/denying you have a disorder (as if having a disease, disorder, or disability says anything about your character, choices, abilities, or value as a person)?

I think it's a good question. One can play with language any way you want (see Trump,) but it doesn't change the fact that people with autism are disadvantaged by their condition. Not just because of societal prejudice, but because we are not working with as much brain function as nts.

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15 Sep 2016, 9:35 am

We have divergent brain function, not less brain function, than "NTs."

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15 Sep 2016, 9:38 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

We have divergent brain function, not less brain function, than "NTs."

We have disabled brain function. We are not as functional as nts.

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15 Sep 2016, 9:46 am

According to Courchesne....and I would tend to believe this, Our neural connections were "rushed" because our brain increased in size too fast.

The fact of the "rushed" neural connections, according to this theory, rendered these connections of "less quality."

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15 Sep 2016, 9:47 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

We have divergent brain function, not less brain function, than "NTs."

Rigid thinking, literal mindedness, and repetitive behavior is the opposite of genius.

Also one would have to be in sheer denial to ignore how a low functioning severely autistic person who cannot put on their own clothes is not suffering from a disorder.

Sooner everyone admits the truthes I mentioned, the long road to answers won't be hindered as it is now. It's a shame so many are opposed to any research and just want accommodation till the end of time.

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15 Sep 2016, 9:54 am

If a person has Level Three Autism, it's obvious that a "disorder" is present.

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15 Sep 2016, 10:01 am

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You may see someday why agreeing with what I said is far from being bigoted. We are entitled to basic human rights including freedom from oppression. Nature is one of the most bigoted, selfish, and cruel oppressor of all. Freedom from disability is a human right therefore.

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15 Sep 2016, 10:39 am

Is it Autism Spectrum Disorder or Autism Spectrum Disorders.

They seem to use it in a confusing interchangeable way.

Language Majors help me out here... isn't it weird that an acronym (ASD) can mean singular or plural?

But to OP, you or anyone can call yourselve's whatever you like. I believe its a disorder but don't say disorder either. But this is medical science's word and theory.

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15 Sep 2016, 10:43 am

I believe it is both.

Autism Spectrum Disorder is an umbrella term.

Autism Spectrum Disorders are components of Autism Spectrum Disorder.

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15 Sep 2016, 11:50 am

Jute wrote:

I don't think for a moment that anybody is suggesting that anyone should lose funding, I know that I'm not. But it isn't mere semantics either, try telling a black that the "n" word is mere semantics, it isn't it's discriminatory. In my case I have a preference for being referred to accurately as having a condition, which is what I have been diagnosed as having, rather than being wrong labelled as having a disorder, disability or disease, with all the negative connotations that those words imply.

Condition also implies those things.

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15 Sep 2016, 1:20 pm

Please enlighten me, what negative connotations are there to the word condition?

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15 Sep 2016, 1:57 pm

Jute wrote:

Please enlighten me, what negative connotations are there to the word condition?

From google definition of the word:

an illness or other medical problem.
"a heart condition"
synonyms: disorder, problem, complaint, illness, disease, ailment, sickness, affliction, infection, upset
"a liver condition"

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15 Sep 2016, 3:04 pm

johnnyh wrote:

It is a disorder you hippies!

Every scruffy non conformist is not a hippie. "Real Hippies" were into big group gatherings, think Woodstock. Does not sound very autistic to me. Neither does hyperfocus, hippies were "mellow man"(hippie slang)

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15 Sep 2016, 3:13 pm

johnnyh wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

We have divergent brain function, not less brain function, than "NTs."

Rigid thinking, literal mindedness, and repetitive behavior is the opposite of genius.

Somebody forgot to tell Jeffrey Ford the 2016 genius of the year.

Yes I know most autistics are not genius but it is not incompatable.

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15 Sep 2016, 3:46 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:

Somebody forgot to tell Johnny Ford the 2016 genius of the year.

He's not genius enough to figure out what humility means.

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