voice register poll for men and women

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what is your vocal register in normal speech?
contrabass/basso profundo 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
bass 9%  9%  [ 2 ]
bass-baritone 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
baritone dark 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
baritone light 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
tenor dark 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
tenor light 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
alto dark 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
alto light 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
soprano 9%  9%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 23

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24 Aug 2020, 10:02 pm

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I've no idea about current pop music, as I hardly ever listen to it. Back in the day (1960s and 1970s), I think a lot of people would have found pop records a tad too high to comfortably sing along with, if they cared about sounding any good. In the end I didn't have much of a problem myself, because of that discovery I mentioned before about extending the upper range and making it sound stronger by deliberately pushing the envelope by way of making it louder and higher. But I found audiences had trouble singing along to my music in the keys I chose. Most people don't develop their upper range unless they're more than casually interested in singing. I suspect most rock and pop singers use the same trick I discovered, hence the higher pitch. I doubt many male casual singers can emit a G above middle C very firmly, in other words I suspect the modal untrained male voice is baritone and the modal rock / pop male voice is between baritone and tenor, at least for singers with a relatively "muscular" style.

that is pretty high, not air between a high G and a high C IMHO. a long time ago, pop music was lower-pitched as evidenced by the crooners [such as bing crosby] who sold all those gazillions of 78s back in the day. i have to ask you something, TD- how do you keep your voice from cracking on the high notes? is there a note that if you exceed it, your voice will crack?



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24 Aug 2020, 10:43 pm

If you're going WAY back you had the nonrocknroll crooners like Bing Crosby, and Sinatra. Trained baritone voices.

Wasnt until the Nineties that female singers had a large presence on the charts. So even during the rocknroll era music was written for the male range.



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24 Aug 2020, 11:16 pm

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If you're going WAY back you had the nonrocknroll crooners like Bing Crosby, and Sinatra. Trained baritone voices.

Wasnt until the Nineties that female singers had a large presence on the charts. So even during the rocknroll era music was written for the male range.

it's about time for real men's voices to make a comeback- just imagine how hard rock would sound with a stentorian basso voice as the lead [quasi-operatic] :dj:



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25 Aug 2020, 12:58 am

I'm all for it. Honestly, with the success of Nightwish and their various imitators for the last decade and a half, I'm surprised it hasn't already been done (as far as I know).


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25 Aug 2020, 4:15 am

Where am I?

My guess would be in the baritone range somewhere.
https://voca.ro/4zjU5eRUlP1



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25 Aug 2020, 4:21 am

Baritone. Deejay quality. Chicks would like that.



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25 Aug 2020, 4:53 am

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Where am I?

My guess would be in the baritone range somewhere.
https://voca.ro/4zjU5eRUlP1

sounds like you have a bit of a west-coast american accent in that vocaroo, excellent job :) light baritone.



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25 Aug 2020, 5:06 am

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https://voca.ro/69kc5xWY8FJ

Somewhere on the deeper end, I guess?


What's the verdict on mine?


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25 Aug 2020, 5:19 am

very similar to the late B9, a cultured bass-baritone with a touch of fry.



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25 Aug 2020, 5:34 am

"Cultured", even? That's high praise. Thank you. 8)


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25 Aug 2020, 5:40 am

you have the right voice to do audio books.



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25 Aug 2020, 5:48 am

That's...something I might actually consider at some point. Cool.


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25 Aug 2020, 9:23 am

auntblabby wrote:
that is pretty high, not air between a high G and a high C IMHO. a long time ago, pop music was lower-pitched as evidenced by the crooners [such as bing crosby] who sold all those gazillions of 78s back in the day. i have to ask you something, TD- how do you keep your voice from cracking on the high notes? is there a note that if you exceed it, your voice will crack?

I just sing louder, with more force. I can usually get that G in that way, until I've been singing for a while and fatigue starts to set in. Then I have to increase the volume further to drive it through, but these days I can't keep doing that for hours like I used to be able to, or my voice will pack up. Luckily it usually only takes a few minutes of rest before it's recovered, so I can still record songs verse by verse, but for live performances I have to be careful about my choice of material and the running order. It's rather like physical exercise with advancing age - use it or lose it, don't overdo it, warm up gradually, and take sensible rest breaks.

The psychology of popular vocal ranges is interesting. Presumably the Crosby low notes were signalling masculinity. High, muscular singing had become one of the hallmarks of up-beat pop music by the time I was a teenager, with bands such as the Beatles and songs such as Twist And Shout. They were clearly pushing the envelope to get that high. Perhaps, as with their fringed hairstyles, they were showing off things that older people can't do so well. Youth culture was on the rise. It took me decades to begin to appreciate the aesthetic qualities of lower-range vocals, which I used to regard as wishy-washy and outmoded. I've also never been very good at singing lower notes. I couldn't get enough pitching accuracy or projection without that back-pressure. Since then I've improved in the low range, at least when recording. It's still difficult with live performing because it's just not loud enough, and it's very sensitive to nervousness which shows up as audible pitching errors and tremors. For some reason I can belt out higher notes accurately and confidently regardless of nerves.



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25 Aug 2020, 9:42 am

Wolfram87 wrote:
Wolfram87 wrote:
https://voca.ro/69kc5xWY8FJ

Somewhere on the deeper end, I guess?


What's the verdict on mine?


That's pretty cool

I (subconsciously?) imagined you to be a cartoon till I heard that.

More ppl should do that and ...post it in their signature


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25 Aug 2020, 9:48 am

ToughDiamond wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
that is pretty high, not air between a high G and a high C IMHO. a long time ago, pop music was lower-pitched as evidenced by the crooners [such as bing crosby] who sold all those gazillions of 78s back in the day. i have to ask you something, TD- how do you keep your voice from cracking on the high notes? is there a note that if you exceed it, your voice will crack?

I just sing louder, with more force. I can usually get that G in that way, until I've been singing for a while and fatigue starts to set in. Then I have to increase the volume further to drive it through, but these days I can't keep doing that for hours like I used to be able to, or my voice will pack up. Luckily it usually only takes a few minutes of rest before it's recovered, so I can still record songs verse by verse, but for live performances I have to be careful about my choice of material and the running order. It's rather like physical exercise with advancing age - use it or lose it, don't overdo it, warm up gradually, and take sensible rest breaks.

The psychology of popular vocal ranges is interesting. Presumably the Crosby low notes were signalling masculinity. High, muscular singing had become one of the hallmarks of up-beat pop music by the time I was a teenager, with bands such as the Beatles and songs such as Twist And Shout. They were clearly pushing the envelope to get that high. Perhaps, as with their fringed hairstyles, they were showing off things that older people can't do so well. Youth culture was on the rise. It took me decades to begin to appreciate the aesthetic qualities of lower-range vocals, which I used to regard as wishy-washy and outmoded. I've also never been very good at singing lower notes. I couldn't get enough pitching accuracy or projection without that back-pressure. Since then I've improved in the low range, at least when recording. It's still difficult with live performing because it's just not loud enough, and it's very sensitive to nervousness which shows up as audible pitching errors and tremors. For some reason I can belt out higher notes accurately and confidently regardless of nerves.


I heard a singing/vocal coach say that
Instead of someone aspiring to another voice and trying to squeeze their voice into that

He takes joy in his job
Because. He can tell the difference ..
So he teaches them to explore their own range and practice with their own voice

And he also said that he sees the students' whole character change and improve over the course of this 'journey' and it becomes 'profound' (unsure how )


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25 Aug 2020, 9:49 am

blooiejagwa wrote:

That's pretty cool


Thank you kindly 8)

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I (subconsciously?) imagined you to be a cartoon till I heard that.


I'm pleading the fifth on that one. :lol:


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