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11 Nov 2007, 10:16 pm

My OCD keeps me relplying. This is driving me crazy.

I deleted my original post.

I promise this is my last post in this thread. I am never looking at it again.

The purpose of me defining different is, people are not working hard enough to overcome their AS. They are accepting their AS as equivalent to a different hair or eye color. That is my point. I continually am striving to improve myself. People in this thread are not doing that.

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11 Nov 2007, 10:23 pm

KevinLA wrote:

I am amazed about how many people in to this thread refer to AS as a "difference" Let me explain what a difference is. Difference is hair color, eye color, skin color. Calling AS a "difference" is equivalent to having one arm a "difference".

I suppose I would use the term "difference" to encompass all the multidimensional variations among human beings. From my standpoint, being born with one arm is also a difference. We are all "differently abled."

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11 Nov 2007, 10:25 pm

KevinLA wrote:

My OCD keeps me relplying. This is driving me crazy.

I am amazed about how many people in to this thread refer to AS as a "difference" Let me explain what a difference is. Difference is hair color, eye color, skin color. Calling AS a "difference" is equivalent to having one arm a "difference".

Difference is difference. You can spot differences and inconsistancies with just about anything. What I think you mean is your version of difference.

If I didn't accept my differences after trying when I was a pre-teen to do the whole fit in thing which resulted in failing, I would not be here to talk.

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11 Nov 2007, 10:33 pm

Some people on this board are becoming such total jerks I don't want to bother coming back.

I come here to look for advice on how to deal with the world I live in, as an alien outsider (pretty much.)

To be attacked in this place of supposed refuge, means there's nothing here except more of the evil behaviours I'm trying to learn how to cope with or overcome.

Some people should really learn to control themselves - we're supposed to be helping each other, not attacking!

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11 Nov 2007, 10:38 pm

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Don't let this person over power you. This person I feel is being completely fake.

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11 Nov 2007, 10:51 pm

2ukenkerl wrote:

KevinLA wrote:

I can't resist.

My mother has a PHD and my father was a rocket scientist. I am no dummy. Also, being 36 means I have more experience than most people on this board with AS.

It is one thing to accept your AS and it is another thing to embrace it. There are too many people on this board embracing it and it is not doing them any good.

Well, I am almost a decade older than you, and I'm no slouch either. But you have NO real hobbies? Isn't that pretty much a hallmark of AS?!?!? ALSO, physical disabilities and no job are NOT because of AS. HECK, AS IS a difference, and has some possible negatives and some possible positives. It is almost like tuning a car!

With a car you have firing order, spark gap, fuel mix, timing, gas, oxygen, temperature, other things. USUALLY, these are set kind of low. Things are supposed to be just so. The engine runs, and may cost little, but doesn't run well. If the seals, gaps, timing, etc... are just so, you can put a better fuel mix in with NO ILL EFFECTS, and things run better/faster! You could use the shaft, or exhaust, to drive a turbine to preheat the fuel and add air, and it will run even BETTER, but maybe not as long. Maybe you can try a new fuel mixture and have it run faster, but not as reliably.

AS is the same sort of thing. We are kind of tuned differently. Sometimes things break, cell die, etc... Sometimes things end up a bit worse, other times better. Parts of my brain DEFINITELY work better than those of many others I know. Others certainly don't work as well. Still, I am FAR from the invalid you seem to claim AS people are.

No hobbies a hallmark of AS? I was not aware that someone with Autism could not have a hobby. You mean there are no Aspies who are coin or stamp collectors? There are no Aspies who are interested in computers and web design? There are probably hundreds of different hobbies. I would find it very hard to believe that this is a "hallmark" of autism.

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11 Nov 2007, 10:55 pm

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Difference that which makes two things not identical! In any event, Autism is odd. It seems things are rarely taken away, they are SHIFTED! It is like when Intel made the 486DX. They COULD have made a better processor(Made it more generally intelligent), or added memory(Made it able to retain more knowledge), but they decided to add a specialized FPU(made it a math savant) instead. The APPLE II was a nice computer, and FLEXIBLE, but run off one processor. The Atari 800 had like THREE! But it was less flexible.

So you choose to think of AS as a disability, but it really is just a difference. With that 486, they MIGHT have given it a better processor. If they did, it wouldn't have been as good at math but, with work, could have done better. OTHER things would have worked better though. With AS, it seems like they get a special portion that drives interaction, and we use that area for other things. THEY get a finer degree of feelings, and with us it is coarser.

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11 Nov 2007, 10:57 pm

Silver_Meteor wrote:

2ukenkerl wrote:

KevinLA wrote:

Most aspies I've met had their hobbies. One was a coin collector and loved listening to music.

I play instruments and into computers. Also into studying psychology and people not through books but through examinations, observations and using intuition. I feel that it isn't limiting at all. It is just that most people would rather talk about something else.

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11 Nov 2007, 10:58 pm

I changed the post above. It did not come across right.

The purpose of me defining different is, people are not working hard enough to overcome their AS. They are accepting their AS as equivalent to a different hair or eye color. That is my point. I continually am striving to improve myself and the way I think and the things I say around other people. I just don't think people are doing that.

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11 Nov 2007, 11:02 pm

^ In reality, I am trying to improve myself, while accepting the fact that I have a condition that impairs my abiltity to do so.

In some ways I'm succeeding, in other ways I'm not and never will.

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11 Nov 2007, 11:02 pm

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Apologies. I am clearly being misunderstood by some people.

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11 Nov 2007, 11:03 pm

KevinLA wrote:

How in the hell do you know people are not striving? If you do have AS you would know how difficult it is.

There are alot of battles I've personally overcame but here I am several years later after overcoming one battle to figure out that there are more things that I haven't been able to conquer. Does that make me a failure?

No. Sometimes if you can't jump over one hurdle, you move around it and go to the next. I find you to be a complete jerk and you clearly don't get that people really do struggle and not all can do the things typical people like.

You don't know how hard someone else has tried and if it worked for you and you are completely normal now, well judging by your attitude and lack of understanding approach, I aspire to not be like you at all.

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11 Nov 2007, 11:12 pm

Kitsy wrote:

Silver_Meteor wrote:

2ukenkerl wrote:

KevinLA wrote:

I was afraid of this, and ALMOST corrected it! I meant that people with AS ARE supposed to have "obsessive interests"(AKA HOBBIES)! I really question someone that says they have AS but have NO hobbies. But YEAH, I have had plenty of hobbies ALSO! Electronics, Computers, languages, etc....

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11 Nov 2007, 11:15 pm

Did you not read my first post in this thread. I have AS and it has ruined my life. I was like you people. I accepted who I was and gave the finger to all the NTs. This is how I ended up.

No job, no friends, and on federal disability and living with my mother at 36.

Hobbies to me is not stamp collecting, music and computers. My definition of hobbies are things like skiing, snowbarding, volleyball.

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11 Nov 2007, 11:19 pm

KevinLA wrote:

BlueMax wrote:

Apologies. I am clearly being misunderstood by some people.

Kevin,

You are either a TROLL, or an upset person with problems that figures they are AS and everyone else must have them. Either way, most people here won't appreciate your effort.

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11 Nov 2007, 11:24 pm

The reason I raised a sh*tstorm in this thread, was the original poster is trying to convice people to be proud of having AS. That is the wrong mentality.

To lead people to believe that having AS is something to be proud of is way off base.

If anyone can't understand this, I don't know what else to say.

READ ABOVE. I HAVE AS. HOW CAN THAT NOT BE CLEAR.

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