Accepting Autism is Like a Traffic Jam

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13 Dec 2007, 1:30 pm

Mercury has been used for centuries as a medicine.
And if mercury has been causing autism since 1931, how come it's still being used? Surely, this situation requires a cover-up.


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13 Dec 2007, 1:30 pm

Define poor thinking.


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13 Dec 2007, 1:32 pm

foresam wrote:
Beau,
Whether you like it or not, I do speak for you. Your diminished capacity prevents you from speaking logically for yourself. Associating with those who want you to celebrate having brain damage is not logical.

Insomniaket,
The poor thinking of autistic brains is just a symptom. You have to go beyond that and address the cause if you want to solve the problem.


quietly waiting my turn to be commented upon.

C'mon, foresam, surely you can think up some reason why I have AS with no vaccination or history of vaccinations. . .

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13 Dec 2007, 1:33 pm

Foresam wrote:

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I grew up when autism and Asperger's hardly existed at all.


Ok, Foresam, you are a NT. You are supposed to have a good theory of mind. Here's a question for you: When you write things like this, how intelligent do you think you sound to the many persons on this board that have Asperger syndrome and are 20, 30, 40, 50 or more years old? Do you think these people were 30 year old NT a few years ago that "caught" Asperger syndrome after breaking a thermometer in their hands? Or from a flu vaccine? No, these are people that have had Asperger syndrome all of their lives.

What do you think a 40 year old Aspie was 35 years ago? The answer, amazingly enough, is that he was a ***FIVE YEAR OLD ASPIE*** living in the year 1972. :roll:

The mercury-autism/vaccinations-autism connection issue has been investigated by a very large number of research studies. The evidence overwhelmingly shows that vaccinations don't cause autism. And, before you put on your tin-foil conspiracy-theorist hat, most of those studies were conducted by independent scientists that are *NOT* getting paid by the pharmaceutical industry. Most medical researchers are paid by government grants -- that is, tax dollars. So, no, there is no giant conspiracy on the part of scientists to protect pharmaceutical companies.

My suggestion would be to stop getting your scientific "knowledge" from random internet blogs.



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13 Dec 2007, 1:33 pm

foresam wrote:
Beau,
Whether you like it or not, I do speak for you. Your diminished capacity prevents you from speaking logically for yourself. Associating with those who want you to celebrate having brain damage is not logical.



Now why would Beau have diminished capacity? Because he is an Aspie?
They said black people were slow and stupid? Is that true in your opinion?
They said women are weak and stupid? Is that true in your opinion?
I think the Aspies here are quite a bunch of intelligent individuals.
And to associate with them is my privilege.

I wish I knew more Aspies in real life, then I might be able to have an intelligent conversation every once in a while.



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13 Dec 2007, 1:36 pm

Foresam I think your the one who has been coned if you want to know more about us go here http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt50903.html

You will soon see why we are confused, just because you live in a world that is designed for you does not make what come's out of your mouth correct, open your eyes to them changing they minds after they spit stuff out about stuff....



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13 Dec 2007, 1:39 pm

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Foresam I think your the one who has been coned if you want to know more about us go here http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt50903.html

You will soon see why we are confused, just because you live in a world that is designed for you does not make what come's out of your mouth correct, open your eyes to them changing they minds after they spit stuff out about stuff....


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13 Dec 2007, 1:42 pm

foresam wrote:
Beau,
Whether you like it or not, I do speak for you. Your diminished capacity prevents you from speaking logically for yourself. Associating with those who want you to celebrate having brain damage is not logical.



I am unique in that I am one of the few people with AS willing to completely reject who I am and accept that it is better to be 100% neurotypical. Foresam is right. People with AS aren't living in the neurotypical/rational world. It is not a question of right or wrong. We are socially dysfunctional and aren't suited for the world we live in.

Look at the message board we come to every day. "WRONG PLANET". Based on the way we function, we don't belong in this neurotypical world.



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13 Dec 2007, 1:45 pm

Nor do lots of other sections of society. Apparently. What do they do then? Exterminate us all?

We're fine how we are. Life's a struggle but it is for many NTs too.



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13 Dec 2007, 1:46 pm

JWRed wrote:
I am unique in that I am one of the few people with AS willing to completely reject who I am and accept that it is better to be 100% neurotypical. Foresam is right. People with AS aren't living in the neurotypical/rational world. It is not a question of right or wrong. We are socially dysfunctional and aren't suited for the world we live in.


Why would you reject who you are? It is what it is? To deny even a part of oneself is not healthy. I also never heard anyone say that it is 'better' to be an Aspie, it is just something to accept and move on with life. To dwell on it one way or another isn't healthy either.

I'm odd...and?
Do I care what people think? No.
Am I going to be any different tomorrow? No.

So I move on and do what I have to do. I've been here for 40 years, and I am a super happy person.



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13 Dec 2007, 1:47 pm

Erm no offence but NT's are not as good as you think they are at communicating............ In fact they suck at returning a call..... Its just the way they are... Nts are not all good at communication, why you think they get slapped, into arguements, mind you they enjoy them, specialy females they go at them even when they done nothing wrong because they been planning it for days...



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13 Dec 2007, 1:49 pm

Let me sum up some questions that have been directed at you foresam:

If autism is caused by mercury poisoning, and only mercury poisoning from vaccines, how is it that members on the WP boards exhibited autistic traits before they were vacinated (or have them without ever being vaccinated)?

Have all children that have had chelation therapy been competely cured of autism?

How do you answer the question that some people were autism before there was a name for it and mislabled (as schizophrenic etc by the mental health field that was in its infancy)?

Define this poor thinking that you keep describing that autistics have.

Thanks!


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13 Dec 2007, 1:50 pm

The world was designed by normal people for normal people. It is not going to be redesigned because mercury has caused brain damage in a small percentage of the population. The solution is to cure the brain damage and prevent it from happening again.

Someone claimed they had no vaccinations and wanted to know how they acquired mercury. It could have come from dental amalgams or pollution. Have you been tested for fr4agile X?

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Pharma and government are the same animal. Who do you think had both Bush's elected?
People who were diagnosed with Asperger's as adults were not necessarily Aspie as kids. The criteria has changed so that lots of weirdos can call themselves Aspies. Weirdos may be weirdos without having Asperger's. It's just a nicer word that weirdos choose to give themselves.



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13 Dec 2007, 1:53 pm

foresam wrote:
It's just a nicer word that weirdos choose to give themselves.


But I don't have a problem being a weirdo. That is what you fail to recognize. I like who I am. I like being a weirdo.

And what is normal anyway?