Are Aspies Superior?: A multi-faceted discussion

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To answer the original question, no. People with AS are not superior. Every person is different with different talents and weaknesses.

I read the first page of this thread, and didn't bother to read the other four, but I thought I'd throw in my two cents. So here it be. People with AS are NOT significantly different from other people in ANY other way than social. And frankly, I think social interaction is useless, mundane, and just generally... useless. Being able to communicate ideas with people is helpful for scientific and philisophical advancement, but talking about what you had for breakfast or how hot that new secretary is is just a waste of mental resources. Not being hampered by useless crap and instead using the full extent of your mental capacity for significant and useful consideration: superior? Damn right. As far as "evolution" is concerned, well, they don't call it the "THEORY of Evolution" for nothing. In fact, it's more or less been disproven, so don't bother talking about it, or using it in your arguement. It just doesn't exist. Anyway, all that is probly more than two cents, like maybe seven or eight, but who's counting? I would love for someone to disagree with anything that I've said, because I will so TOTALLY prove you wrong so fast and so thoroughly that you won't even know what happened.

But what about human experiences, surely you can't disprove of something that pure.

I thought evolution was simply the offspring having traits that greater increase the chances of continuing the species or creating new species entirely not the simple advancement of a solely human concept such as science?

Are you religious by any chance?

I have only one thing to say to that Tortuga, and it comes in the form of a question. What the hell do you know about what goes on in my mind? As for being religious... just exactly who isn't? Aside from the maybe 1% of the world population that's athiest? And as far as evolution is concerned, your summation is basically correct. But here's the real question. If all the species are in a constant state of flux, then why is it that everyone and everything is so much the same? I've never seen a plant with eyeballs, or any animal with vocal chords.

Just a small addition here. I find it neccesary to point out the fact that I have NEVER, EVER, in my life obsessed over ANYTHING. EVER.

I think see what's going on here now...

This supremacy idea was crafted by those with fragile egos shattered by their inability to integrate into conventional society. They lurked on here for sometime and became powerful, over time they ensnared other fragile and weak minds into this ideology. Glasscutter has proven this quite well, though I doubt he crafted these ideas rather was indoctrinated into them based on his own experiences.

All of the ideas of supremacy, the bullies, the indigoes, the savant masters, everything is part of a grander scheme that eventually turns people with the condition known as Autism and Asperger's Syndrome into a ethnic group. A group that demands acceptance yet discourages its members from integrating. I've seen this before with other groups and its no different here.

This was never a debate to begin with, this was an example, this was an example of the imposed ideology of the Autistic Community. Just that title alone implies a collective identity of people who have no common lineage or bond other than a condition they were born with. They impose these collectivist thoughts through the deconstruction of members through self-pity. A hypocracy when mated with this supremacy theory
Anyone who opposes the party line is dealt with.
This is ridiculous, I've shouted down and I've done a fair amount of shouting myself.
I wouldn't have even needed an analogy, all I would've needed is to just write ''are aspies superior?'' and I would've gotten the same thing. you've made your point, I go against the tribe and no one can be convinced out of the faith.

Ok this thread is wack! BUT it has promise!

Here's my take on AS vs NT.

Living with NT is like being stuck inside a bubble. All the thoughts and experiences are filtered through the edge of that bubble, IE there personal boundarys. Living with AS is like we tied the bubble onto a string and made a ballon out of it. This way we have RAW emotions and reactions to things that happen in the world around us, with little to no boundarys that we care about. None the less we can "pull the bubble balloon down" and have a good look through it, this is like using our minds and logic for curtian tasks in which we are not in our own ways within this bubble, there for we can clearly see what is happening.

Now is it better to have boundarys or not associate everything within the mind?

My answer NEITHER!! !

They are both ways of living in the world. Just diffrent ways..... We all have the same parts, we just USE them diffrently.

ALSO, I've heard nothing on this thread about global consciousness! In my own opinion, we are one PLANET!! !! There are no humans "better" than others, only diffrent. When I think about how AS fits into a NT world, it kinda goes like this.

(And forgive me if I'm out on a limb, the view is nice from here)

The world at large is getting ready for a MASSIVE CONSCIOUSNESS SHIFT. This means people the world over are prepareing themselfs for a new wave of identifying with the world. In which, all participents are casting there votes on how this new paradigm will pan out. Meaning, we are deciding, as a collective thought, what way is going to be best for each person to serve the humanity in which it lives. With this, we are beginning to notice how individual people are, yet how community based we must be. SO, in order for this new wave of collective thought to incorporate every single being on this planet, we all must find our place in the community.

In time will people find it is better to hold there bubble above there heads? No.
Will they agree it is better to shelter themselfs within that bubble? NO.
Will they come to an agreement of global awareness? YES!
Will we then in turn, identify with our individual strengths and weaknesses, and use them to better the world we live in? Y E S ! ! !

So really all this argument between us as "individuals" as who is superior or who has issues or what what this fricken world will shift too, is pointless.....

Does it take a 25 yr old guy with HFA to see that? NO!! !
It's in the eyes of every child born, it's in the hearts of every man woman and child.
IT IS OUR FATE.
We are here to find what makes us human, not to seperate us as more human or not.

You know Freedomg, you're not the only person in the world who thinks like you. I've seen it before. You think we're inferior because we don't exist the way that you think we should. We aren't plugged into your hive-mind of social norms. We don't decide how to live our lives based on what the middle-aged actor/musician/athlete turned politician on TV tells us to think. And when I say us, I mean me. Because to be honest, I only became aware rather recently that there were this many people out there like me. I view NT people the way I do because of what I've seen, and what I know. I know THIS. I am intelligent. I care more about other people than I do myself, in a way that perhaps you cannot understand. To be honest, I pity you. A lot of the problems I have in my life are the direct result of my attempts to educate you poor people. I see the things that people do to each other. Wars, crime, racism, and just general cruelty. It happens on a daily basis, and you don't even see it. I try to point it out, thinking that maybe you just don't see it. People say that I'm negative because I never say anything "nice". But I say what needs to be said, and I'm hated for it. So somewhere along the way I came to the conclusion that everyone in the world is just hopelessly stupid. And I started to hate everyone. I decided that you were all just mindless idiots who do what they're told, and can't think for themselves. YOU hate ME when you don't even understand me, and even because of that, and I'M supposed to be the bad guy? I think not. If you find that offensive, that's fine. But that's the way it is. I know who I am, and I know that what I am is good. And if you think it's bad, that makes you my enemy.

And you think people on here are your friends?
Are you stupid or something, no cares about here, this is a forum, an incredibly stupid one at that.

You have done nothing but put words in my mouth, you place me on some pedestal that I never placed myself on.

We weren't discussing the problems of the world, you brought that up.

Fine if I'm stupid, then you're the biggest ret*d here.

Did you even listen to me?
Do you feel it's necessary to spit on me like everyone else on your paradise of like-mindedness?
I thought that their were people like me on this site long ago and then I found out the truth. The same will happen to you, sooner or later. Or you may be so far gone, it may be impossible.

I wasn't changing the subject, I was creating a background for you to understand my point of view. And this is a support forum for people with similar problems to help each other. You coming in here and putting us down is like going to a civil rights march and telling everyone that they don't deserve to be treated like human beings. You are rude, disrespectful, and closed-minded. Everything you say is an exercise in stupidity, and a prime example of what I just said. You disgust me. I have nothing more to say to you you selfish ignorant moron.