I don't want to be an Aspie. I want that cure.

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13 Oct 2008, 4:56 pm

Chimchar wrote:
but how is above average IQ, special interests and good memory going to help you in life? How is it going to help you get a job? How is it going to help you take care of yourself when you're 25?

It matters what your job is, but good memory and high knowledge are quite helpful.



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13 Oct 2008, 5:01 pm

Synth- Clearly you and I do not and will not "get along" on this forum. You've taken two pot-shots at me (http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf79170-0-30.html) and frankly, I'm getting bored with your need to condescend and flatter yourself.
Make you a deal: Don't post to or about me and I'll do the same. My life is way too short to waste time dealing with this kind of crap.

Sorry everyone else- back to your regularly scheduled topic:



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13 Oct 2008, 5:02 pm

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For those who reacted to this negatively, I'll refuse to point fingers, but again I will however point out that these things being said only shows ones desperatism, which obviously goes far beyond anything you can imagine, especially with your single mindedness and everything. Note the key phrase here, which is not wishing for a physical disease, but is "at least people would care about me". What does that say to you? My mother used the words like "pitty party" after I would simply try to express my frustrations, and I don't see you as being any different! By the way NocturnalQuilter I am directing this message towards you, which is pointing a finger.. whoops did I just say I wouldn't do that?


Screw you.
You don't know me, you never will know me and your assumptions about what I can or cannot imagine are baseless.
Perhaps you could read back a bit further in this thread and see past your proverbial nose? I have very strong feelings about cancer and how it has deeply impacted my life.
Frustrating? Yeah, the very real chance of losing one's mother can be "frustrating". Go figure.
Don't see me as being any different? Clearly, you don't see much, do you?



PLease stop. Nocturnal was only doing this to show that cancer is that bad. She was not trying to start a pity party. Really guys, let's not fight. I don't like that. :(



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13 Oct 2008, 5:04 pm

I'm in the same boat as the OP. I absolutely hate Asperger's. One thing I've noticed is that some people seem to have it "worse" than others so just because some Aspies have found a way to get by and be happy, that probably won't work for everyone or people that have it "worse" than you do. I don't know if I'd trade Asperger's for cancer, but if someone gave me the choice of living a long, life and dying of old age in my current condition or, curing me tomorrow, but I would only live 10 more years and not a day longer, I'd have them cure me in a heart beat.

I hate not having friends
I hate not being able to make friends
I hate my "interests" because they're not conducive to a better life
I hate my "interests" because, for some reason, they require other people
I hate that I have a very hard time learning things that don't directly interest me
I hate the fact that I don't like being alone and I don't like being with people
I hate having to wear sunglasses every single time I go outside because the light hurts my eyes
I hate being more sensitive to pain. Combine that with Fibromyalgia and things aren't fun



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13 Oct 2008, 5:07 pm

Claiming someones desperatism as a "pitty party" is one of the most ignorent things someone can say. People who say these things may not actually want a disease but instead only want someone to CARE about them, like someone would care about someone who is sick. I don't make assumptions, I make my comments based on evidence, which points to the fact that you obviously don't know what it's like to be in that situation, so don't bash people who have! Were you hinting before that your mother died of cancer? Well ok, you have the right to be sad, especially if she was kind to you. Not all of us have/had support like you have. So stop being so hypocritical.



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13 Oct 2008, 5:07 pm

Bataar wrote:
I'm in the same boat as the OP. I absolutely hate Asperger's. One thing I've noticed is that some people seem to have it "worse" than others so just because some Aspies have found a way to get by and be happy, that probably won't work for everyone or people that have it "worse" than you do. I don't know if I'd trade Asperger's for cancer, but if someone gave me the choice of living a long, life and dying of old age in my current condition or, curing me tomorrow, but I would only live 10 more years and not a day longer, I'd have them cure me in a heart beat.

I hate not having friends
I hate not being able to make friends
I hate my "interests" because they're not conducive to a better life
I hate my "interests" because, for some reason, they require other people
I hate that I have a very hard time learning things that don't directly interest me
I hate the fact that I don't like being alone and I don't like being with people
I hate having to wear sunglasses every single time I go outside because the light hurts my eyes
I hate being more sensitive to pain. Combine that with Fibromyalgia and things aren't fun


I've been thinking that's the case, Bataar. It's because we are on different areas of the spectrum, it affects us differently. I have some positives that I absolutely adore. They exist in areas like art/writing/creating stuff. I enjoy this. I can also put myself in a good mood by writing about certain subjects, animals, for instance. Stuff like baby possum faces give me a feeling of euphoria because I think they are so cute.



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13 Oct 2008, 5:11 pm

Synth wrote:
Claiming someones desperatism as a "pitty party" is one of the most ignorent things someone can say. People who say these things may not actually want a disease but instead only want someone to CARE about them, like someone would care about someone who is sick. I don't make assumptions, I make my comments based on evidence, which points to the fact that you obviously don't know what it's like to be in that situation, so don't bash people who have! Were you hinting before that your mother died of cancer? Well ok, you have the right to be sad, especially if she was kind to you. Not all of us have/had support like you have. So stop being so hypocritical.


Trust me when I say, there have been far more ignorant things posted than "pity party". Barring that please refer to page 2, 5th post down of this thread. It's a shame I should actually have to hold your hand and point it out to you.

Who's the hypocrit now, Synth?



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13 Oct 2008, 5:17 pm

Not me, I don't recall ever saying anything bad about that situation at all. I was only trying to point out that not everyone was as fortunate as you, having that kind of support from anyone, so it's not nice to call something a "pitty party" that you know nothing about. Just like you have had problems with your mother having cancer, some of us have had problems that are equally bad, except with healthy mothers. I could bring up the term "abusive" but people react negatively about that so I won't. I think you get the point! Your mother was sweet, ours were rotten and neglectful don't look down on us when we feel just as much as you.



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13 Oct 2008, 5:18 pm

Synth wrote:
Not me, I don't recall ever saying anything bad about that situation at all. I was only trying to point out that not everyone was as fortunate as you, having that kind of support from anyone, so it's not nice to call something a "pitty party" that you know nothing about.


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13 Oct 2008, 5:21 pm

I edited my post.



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13 Oct 2008, 5:29 pm

Synth wrote:
Not me, I don't recall ever saying anything bad about that situation at all. I was only trying to point out that not everyone was as fortunate as you, having that kind of support from anyone, so it's not nice to call something a "pitty party" that you know nothing about. Just like you have had problems with your mother having cancer, some of us have had problems that are equally bad, except with healthy mothers. I could bring up the term "abusive" but people react negatively about that so I won't. I think you get the point! Your mother was sweet, ours were rotten and neglectful don't look down on us when we feel just as much as you.


Synth- I concede. You are RIGHT and I am wrong.



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13 Oct 2008, 5:32 pm

I really don't care if you think I'm right, and I know you are not sincere so whatever you say.
My understanding has been brought forth, and there is nothing left to say on this matter.
All I was trying to do is make you see you were not being very kind to someone who needed kindness badly in the first place, which is something you still can't seem to grasp.. So it's out of my hands.



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14 Oct 2008, 3:25 am

Soooo....
Somebody have actually dropped gluten...
Did it have any effect on other symptoms than stomach?

As to surviving on a diet:
I lived without milk products and gluten products for one year. OK it was very difficult. But I didnt get hungry a lot.

Basis was rice. Then lentils, beans etc as I am poor. Meat fish and poultry was luxury.
Lots of fresh fruit helps. Raw and cooked vegetables.
Oats are without gluten! I ate a lot of that! Porridge or plain oats with orange juice ;-)

We have oatsmilk here in sweden! Very nice. Rice milk is an alternative. But oats are good in itself, with fatty acids and so on. Very good.

I think what we eat influence us very much. Especially when we dont feel good, we should pay attention to what we eat.

I want research on this. I am writing a thesis on these so called opioid peptides.
Please post links if you stumble upon something connected...



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14 Oct 2008, 9:58 am

OP:
On another thread you expressed interest in writing a story. I take it writing might be an interest of yours. Another strategy can be working on developing the writing. People will notice what you do and start being complimentary and supportive so it won't matter as much if you are eccentric and have different ways of socializing or dislike socializing, not on the same page, whatever you want to call it.
Having AS can be a rewarding, fun life if you can accept yourself and work around it, being creative with your special interest and working on that is one way to work around other "AS" issues that cause frustration.



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14 Oct 2008, 12:59 pm

ANyone who has cancer deserves pity and has a right to be depressed if they want to be.

I get so sick and tired of people who are facing something horrific and everyone wants them to buck up and quit pitying themselves.

Once they suffer the unimaginable and then go into eternity, does it matter WTF they feel or say or think? I think it's ridiculous to make someone act like they are coping when they are not. Why? So YOU can feel better?

Let them feel what they feel and to hell with those who are too stupid and removed from suffering to understand what it feels like to be overwhelmed.

As far as people being more compassionate to those with physical porblems? That is a load of crap. Watch a Dr tell an uninsured mother of 5 that he won't do surgery on her because hse has no insurance. A man at my church was about to have to have a colostomy bag for like- at 22- because the Dr's wanted a $25,000 down payment. No one gave a crap that he was young and about to have a bag of poop eterally stuck to his side.

Eventually the church stepped in, but I can't say they ever showed him any more comapssion than they showed me, which was a nice amount.



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14 Oct 2008, 1:13 pm

I do understand what Chimchar is talking about though. I'm in an English class where the other students hate me because of the positive traits of Asperger's. It's saddening. It makes my life extremely difficult. GRAAAH.