Do people make fun of you for "knowing"?

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Hovis has some great pragmatic advice, n'est ce pas?



Exactly.

Everytime I've seen this thread come up, I've thought, I don't remember anyone ever making fun of me for knowing something. And then I remembered one: In a synagogue I once went to, someone laughed at me because I knew more about our sacred text than they did. A group of us were arguing a point, and I brought up a fairly (I thought) well-known piece of the text in rebuttal, and then someone laughed at me for it. And thus began one of my more public (eek, hide, very embarrassed ) meltdowns. I later apologized. Of course, the person who lauged at me didn't. I guess that's because belittling someone isn't as bad as yelling at them. Or something. Actually, I have no idea. I thought the point of studying a sacred text was to know it and understand it and live it, but apparently, it's really about the social hour afterward. Who knew? There must be some kind of non-verbal cue or body language right there in the text that I'm just not picking up...

I find the way I have been treated frankly was like a dog turd as compared to some other people with lesser abilities. Dispite that I left school with only the qualifications that a dog needs to chase its own tail or scrape it's arse along the ground or those which qualify a cat to purr. These accursed CSEs which was taken in Britain was of less use than Andrex toilet roll this was due to the institutionalised Aspiphobia I had to suffer which means now after 25 years. I do not have self esteem. My social life is zero. I have learned alot since 1983 and because of this I have been treated like a dog turd and jealousy was always used as an excuse. For all the Aspiphobia I have received since 1966 no apology just excuses. I hated people who were of lesser abilities than I was due to the better way they was treated. It just made me sick to the back teeth. I have been to college and learned Chemistry which I was almost excelling in if I only had the money.a bit of maths which included trigonometryalgebra etc. I also done physics as well that which the school I was left was too Aspiphobic to teach me I do not like neurotypicals answering back to me as though they have the gospel truth because they don't. Now since I learned all that science I am still regarded as uneducated and this pisses me off as this does not do me good in the development of a self esteem. I have had some friends and believe it or not a girlfriend but as per usual she lived with her parents who thought I was the biggest shithouse ever because I learned at college. I even had emotional and psychological abuse at a so called sheltered workshop for six years I have seen people with learning difficulties treated well in comparison. To me this is absolutely disgusting. What I really need is a couple of friends and to develop a self esteem a degree and a PhD in organic chemistry. That would earn me repect rather than all the crappy vocational courses I may have to do

Ahh, the infamous sub-text, inscrutable, often even to the author themselves. Sometimes the sea is just the sea and all that.

I should have realized the point of an ancient spiritual text was after synagogue one-up-man-ship, but like you, I over-looked this important fact. It probably even says so....in the sub text of course.

One of my special interests is the Latin language. i currently take Latin in school as well. It's to the point that I have stopped answering questions. Everyone used to say things such as, "Of course she would know" "Let me guess who knows the answer...(my name)" I think they meant it in a rude way, so I just keep my mouth shut now.

There are so many pages of sacred text, though--Torah, Tanakh, Mishnah, Gemara, Kabbalah--who can find the subtext in all that?

I guess we're back to watching the non-verbal cues: "This one is holding a glass of Manischevitz and looking animatedly at the lovely man holding the challah and talking about the renovations on his new house, which are costing more money than he imagined they could." I know there is some connect there between the text and the physical reality at that moment, but I'm so dense, I just can't manage to see it.

Yay! Another Meerkat Manor hater!

Before Meerkat Manor came out and became so popular, hardly ANYONE knew what a meerkat was and if they did they just knew about Timon from The Lion King. Meerkats were my main obsession WAAAAY before Meerkat Manor came out. People kept telling me I needed to get intrested in other things or "widen my horizons" or take an example from the meerkats and be more social with people. Meerkats are only social with other meerkats and ocassionaly a ground squirrel or yellow mongoose, not people. If anyone has seen just ONE eposide of the show, meerkats are absouetly brutal to each other. Anyway, people tried to make me loose my meerkat obsession but when Meerkat Manor came out and got popular it was sudenly okay to like them so much. Why is having an obsession with something only okay if it is popular with mainstream society?

I did not know Timon was a meerkat.

It's okay, pandd, don't feel bad. I learned that Timon was a meerkat from my daughter, when she was seven years old. When she told me, she did one of these: Good thing I found out before I made a serious social faux pas out there in the "real" world.

People have thought I was some sort of psychic or mind reader, but that's just a piece of info I acquired through mind reading.

As for my many areas of interest, dormant or ardent, I've basically learned to mostly keep quiet about them, whether I sound stupid or smart...I've basically become a person devoid of opinion.

Except for one, for now: what's the point of stating your opinion when they're so easily twisted by "educated carriers of truth" such as professors and whatever?

I don't see myself as a know it all, it's very much the contrary. I know there's so much I don't know. It's other people's ignorance that really tips me off.

No doubt there are some intellectual NTs who would relish discussing things in that fashion, but they would dislike and be unable to cope with the other side of my personality; the awkwardness and odd appearance, the childish sense of humor. Growing up, I always felt that there were two, opposing sides to me, one considerably further ahead mentally than my peers, one borderline ret*d.

I've actually spoken to an NT - I assume - online who agreed with this. They were fed up with being laughed at by people they knew for liking the Digimon anime (which I like) because it's aimed at younger children, when the same people would then go out and watch the latest Disney/Pixar movie.

QFT

People tell me when I am obsessing and when I am annoying them. It has been called to my attention. I have been called "obsessive" before.
Do they make fun of me? Not really. They just tell me I am obsessing.

My family often makes fun of me for knowing too much, yet I am always the one they turn to when they need to know something for their own use. I dont know why but I do know alot about what people would call stupid stuff. If I watch a television program I can point out all the problems with the story or if the story conflicts with a past story, or what is conjecture or scientific fact. I guess I can be annoying when doing this so I usually just keep it to myself. I have a bad habit of remembering everything that I see on TV. From Newscasts to television shows to documentaries.

After a lot of teasing I figured out that people when ask for time, doesn't want to hear the seconds too. I thought I was suppose to say it in a very precise way, cuz I always demanded perfect time... lol