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16 Dec 2008, 12:51 am

thank you
God's hotel is a dump and his monopoly is pathetic



16 Dec 2008, 12:57 am

Nope, still not funny.



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16 Dec 2008, 1:05 am

I do not understand Kilroy, is the song itself racist, or is it just that being amused by the particular sign is a proof that the amused person is racist?



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16 Dec 2008, 1:35 am

the video was seen by some as racist though it was intended to be satire
same with the lyrics



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16 Dec 2008, 1:47 am

I have not seen the video (dial-up connection), but I also cannot see what is racist about the song. Do you know on what basis it has been described as racist? I'm a bit confused.



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16 Dec 2008, 1:54 am

well when Genesis (the album by Genesis) was released many critics thought the song Illegal Alien was racist, mostly because the video (you have to see the video to get the full effect)
it was the 80's everyone hated everything music wise then
it was insane



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16 Dec 2008, 2:54 am

I think racist jokes are ok as long as the person telling them is not using them to offend people, unfortunatly, however, everyone is offended easily by everything these days.

South Park somehow seem to be getting away with it though - good!

I also think it's stupid that black people can generally make racist jokes against white people and it's just fine!

This is just another way society is screwed.



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16 Dec 2008, 2:57 am

well white people have done some bad s**t (holocaust, the american slavery, the crusades,, the inquisition-need I continue)



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16 Dec 2008, 3:04 am

Interestingly enough, lately I've been conversing with my fellow faggoteers via chat and I've found that a large portion of homosexuals in St Louis are indeed racist. How in the world can people who have encountered many hardships themselves be, blantantly racist? The answer is, I don't know. Makes me wish I could infiltrate their central heating systems with my smelly farts. Mwa ha ha. :twisted:



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16 Dec 2008, 4:14 am

Kilroy wrote:
well when Genesis (the album by Genesis) was released many critics thought the song Illegal Alien was racist, mostly because the video (you have to see the video to get the full effect)
it was the 80's everyone hated everything music wise then
it was insane

Ok, thanks for that explanation Kilroy.



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16 Dec 2008, 4:28 am

I'm not racist by any means. However, I do become very nervous/shy around people of other races/ethnicities/nationalities, because I'm afraid of offending them.



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16 Dec 2008, 4:33 am

Spokane_Girl wrote:
mystyc wrote:
Dokken wrote:
I enjoy telling a racist joke every now and then. I'm not going to claim I'm not racist. Everyone is racist to some extent, whether they admit it or not.

Here a joke that I think is funny

"Why can't Mexicans became firemen? Because they can't tell the difference between Jose and Hose B."


Translation: "I'm racist. Here, let me prove it!"



Shall we call a white house a black house now?


Am I racist now? :lol:


Hah no. Just lame. :lol: j/k.

If it is okay to be slightly racist and make racist jokes, then it is definitetly okay to make jokes about people who claim to be slightly racist and make racist jokes. :bom:



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16 Dec 2008, 4:50 am

It would be quite surprising if there were no differences between "races" other than the obvious surface ones... our different sets of ancestors were exposed to totally different conditions, and thus faced entirely different selection pressures. In Africa, with abundant natural resources and mild conditions, the best reproductive strategy for a male was to impregnate as many women as possible, and they'd be able to look after the children well enough. In the more hostile north, the most effective reproductive strategy for both genders was a small family and maximum dedication to it. Is it any surprise that this pattern is more or less replicated in modern times? We have less than a hundred generations of civilisation, and before that many thousands of generations of hunter-gathering, there just hasn't been time for natural selection to catch up with our changed conditions.

Could it not be argued that the falling birth rates among "white" people may be a form of self limiting behaviour triggered by a scarcity of space/resources? Whereas that was never an issue in Africa, so the people with that ancestry are carrying on reproducing willy-nilly.

Also, to the extent that personality is influenced by genetics, how could there fail to be a difference between, for example, someone who's ancestors consistently stayed right where they were for thousands of generations (Africans), and someone who's ancestors were nomadic the whole time and moved as far from their original location as it was possible to go (South American Indians and Pacific Islanders)? Don't try to tell me that genes have no influence on personality, because that's just silly. Without our human genes we wouldn't have a personality.

And to those who pointed out the confusion about who is allowed to call who a n****r/n***a, and why, well, hello! Social conventions being wierd and inexplicable? There's a first!


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16 Dec 2008, 6:35 am

cman_yall wrote:
It would be quite surprising if there were no differences between "races" other than the obvious surface ones... our different sets of ancestors were exposed to totally different conditions, and thus faced entirely different selection pressures. In Africa, with abundant natural resources and mild conditions, the best reproductive strategy for a male was to impregnate as many women as possible, and they'd be able to look after the children well enough. In the more hostile north, the most effective reproductive strategy for both genders was a small family and maximum dedication to it. Is it any surprise that this pattern is more or less replicated in modern times? We have less than a hundred generations of civilisation, and before that many thousands of generations of hunter-gathering, there just hasn't been time for natural selection to catch up with our changed conditions.

Could it not be argued that the falling birth rates among "white" people may be a form of self limiting behaviour triggered by a scarcity of space/resources? Whereas that was never an issue in Africa, so the people with that ancestry are carrying on reproducing willy-nilly.

Also, to the extent that personality is influenced by genetics, how could there fail to be a difference between, for example, someone who's ancestors consistently stayed right where they were for thousands of generations (Africans), and someone who's ancestors were nomadic the whole time and moved as far from their original location as it was possible to go (South American Indians and Pacific Islanders)? Don't try to tell me that genes have no influence on personality, because that's just silly. Without our human genes we wouldn't have a personality.

And to those who pointed out the confusion about who is allowed to call who a n****r/n***a, and why, well, hello! Social conventions being wierd and inexplicable? There's a first!


Interesting theories but I, even as a VERY young kid, didn't want kids because I felt the world was ALREADY too bad. It seems that whites are more likely to think like that. Some blacks and hispanics have actually openly expressed the idea that they could have tons of kids and basically take over. I don't know much about the asians in that regard, but things got so bad in china that there is a shortage of females! WHY? Because they are limited to one kid and, even if they have to kill their first born, they often want a son because he is, through the culture, worth more to the family. AGAIN, I am not being sexist, and NOT saying males are better than females, it is simply the culture. The idea of work, providing, etc.... And the idea of killing one sex so capriciously is, as a culture, just STUPID!



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16 Dec 2008, 7:10 am

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If everyone has racism, then I wonder how I'm racist then?


I think the MOST racist thing anyone can say is that EVERYONE is racist, and NOBODY has a reason other than the color of ones skin. HECK, EVERY group has ones that HATE some some group. That is true of WHITES, BLACKS, ASIANS, etc.... If the sub-group is big enough, OTHER groups may hate the group they are a part of.

And those that encountered hardship are MORE likely to feel that way. Anyone that says whites have never, even as a group, had misfortune, been attacked, etc... is an absolute IDIOT! Even the mere ACCUSATION by a group is proof that those making the accusation are WRONG!

And HECK, I have met a lot of racists, from a lot of different groups. I saw it against me, a white, before I was 10! Prior to that, I really did consider all people as though they were in the same group.



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16 Dec 2008, 8:29 am

cman_yall wrote:
Could it not be argued that the falling birth rates among "white" people may be a form of self limiting behaviour triggered by a scarcity of space/resources? Whereas that was never an issue in Africa, so the people with that ancestry are carrying on reproducing willy-nilly.

Not sensibly. Consider Victorian England, many more children per family, much less resource abundant society, consider the number of societies where regular famine and very high birth rates co-occur, consider implications for what you argue. Not very sensible really is it?
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Also, to the extent that personality is influenced by genetics, how could there fail to be a difference between, for example, someone who's ancestors consistently stayed right where they were for thousands of generations (Africans), and someone who's ancestors were nomadic the whole time and moved as far from their original location as it was possible to go (South American Indians and Pacific Islanders)? Don't try to tell me that genes have no influence on personality, because that's just silly. Without our human genes we wouldn't have a personality.

The ancestors of the people you describe have been local to the area of the descendants for 10's of 1000s of years, so no I doubt whatever migratory efforts their much earlier ancestors engaged in form an active part of their personality.